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11-07-2008, 01:56 PM
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GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price - Which one to buy?
This is the price trend from 6/16 to 7/4. We gain the date from eshop websites such as newegg, zipzoomfly, XFVideoCard and others. Since the prices are different in each site, we select the lowest price.
Generally, NVIDIA didn’t drop price in June, but fell suddenly on July 3rd & 4th. However, HD 4800 changed little over the half month.
The hotest battle in this price war should be GTX 260 and HD 4870. As of July 4th, GTX 260 has dropped to the same price as HD 4870. In fact, we found GTX 260 almost the same as HD 4870 in performance, but GTX 260 has advantages in NVIDIA’s drivers and industrial manufacturer supports.
So, NVIDIA pushes users to dilemma now and it’s difficult for users to choose between HD 4870 and GTX 260.
BTW, GTX 280 had dropped to the same price as the upcoming R700(4870 X2), although we couldn’t hope GTX 280 to beat R700.
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11-07-2008, 02:12 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
OMFG...a real steal 
though i lack the bucks to invest lavishly
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11-07-2008, 02:28 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
sad about the steep price drop from nvidia side. now amd won't be able 2 take the nvidia market share.
btw how much is the price now???
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11-07-2008, 02:40 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
This is why Competition helps. Hats off to AMD.
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11-07-2008, 02:49 PM
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Wahahaha~!
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
^^Not when you have cut a loaf of bread on your plate to survive
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11-07-2008, 03:21 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
But Still NVidia is the market leader
they always amused us by introducing new monsters
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11-07-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
is gtx200 series greater than nvidia 9800gtx?
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11-07-2008, 07:57 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
GTX 260's price had to fall.....Who will pay 100$ more when ATi HD 4870 > GTX 260 in terms of performance...
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11-07-2008, 09:33 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
Any idea when the price drop will take place in India?
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11-07-2008, 11:00 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
i think this time amd has got all in the right place.
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12-07-2008, 01:18 AM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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Originally Posted by The Conqueror
is gtx200 series greater than nvidia 9800gtx?
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in my opinion yes
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12-07-2008, 04:09 AM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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i think this time amd has got all in the right place.
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except, advertising. which idontknowwhy is so f###D up/nonexistent??  
i think the title is wrong, it should be:"nVIDIA drops prices to beat competition/save face"
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12-07-2008, 07:37 AM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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i think the title is wrong, it should be "nVIDIA drops prices to beat competition/save face"
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lol!! Well said,this year i'm all for AMD for their competitiveness.
I'd buy 4870 even if GTX260 was a bit cheaper than 4870 and had the same performance(both of which aren't exactly true),to support AMD so that they can come up with such good vfm cards.
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Sad to say,their products are also quite hard to find in the local markets here.
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12-07-2008, 07:41 AM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
But still HD4870 is faster than GTX260 in most of the games
So 4870 is better buy and also itz DX10.1
anandtech review shows HD4870 is faster
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341
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lol!! Well said,this year i'm all for AMD for their competitiveness.
I'd buy 4870 even if GTX260 was a bit cheaper than 4870 and had the same performance(both of which aren't exactly true),to support AMD so that they can come up with such good vfm cards.
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Me too going in for AMD
most probably next month
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12-07-2008, 10:44 AM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
Well we have to support AMD.....if it was not for their 4XXX series, Nvidia would have spared no effort to charge twice and thrice what their cards are worth.
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12-07-2008, 11:29 AM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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Originally Posted by mavihs
sad about the steep price drop from nvidia side. now amd won't be able 2 take the nvidia market share.
btw how much is the price now???
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Who said ?
FYKI,
HD4870 is 1$ cheaper 
HD4870 supports DirectX 10.1
HD4870 is slightly higher vs GTX260
HD4870 is cooler and 55nm
so AMD still has the upper hand.
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12-07-2008, 11:58 AM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
cool
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12-07-2008, 12:15 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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12-07-2008, 10:17 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
Not in India.
In US 9800gtx sells under 10k. In india its under 20k. 4870 costs 7k more in India. My dreams of 30k crossfire are shattered. I hope 9800gx2 drops to 28k so that I can buy it or nvidia fixes video corruption bug on their nforce chipsets and 9800gtx drops to 12.5k.
gtx280 sli >> 9800gtx sli > 9800gx2 > >> 4870 crossfire for crysis.
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13-07-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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Not in India.
gtx280 sli >> 9800gtx sli > 9800gx2 > >> 4870 crossfire for crysis.
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Are u sure,its most likely a driver problem.With further updates it'd look smthing like:
gtx280 sli>4870x2>9800gtx sli>9800 gx2
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13-07-2008, 11:45 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
4870 X2 will be much better than 4870 Crossfire. X2 is better in power consumption, performance, temps, crossfire optimisations and also ATI boasts that theyre completely free from microstuttering this time which is the main drawback of all multi GPU setup till date
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14-07-2008, 02:03 PM
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I WANT MORE FPS!!
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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Originally Posted by Hrithan2020
Are u sure,its most likely a driver problem.With further updates it'd look smthing like:
gtx280 sli>4870x2>9800gtx sli>9800 gx2
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dude check in all the review sites you can think off.
I forgot to mention the resolution. My statement applies upto 1680*1080. Playing at higher than that resolution is not possible without dropping the settings to medium or gtx280 sli.
4870 CF is insignificantly faster than 4870x2 in crysis. So 4870x2 doesn't beat 4870cf as of now.
4870x2 does better in other games but thats pointless as all other games are playable at highest settings with cheaper graphics cards. Doesn't matter if you have 100 fps or 200 fps in some other game as 50 fps is enough for smooth gaming. Still waiting for sub 35k gfx setup that can run crysis at 1680*1050 at highest settings with 35 fps min and avg at 50+.
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14-07-2008, 07:43 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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Originally Posted by adithyagenius
dude check in all the review sites you can think off.
I forgot to mention the resolution. My statement applies upto 1680*1080. Playing at higher than that resolution is not possible without dropping the settings to medium or gtx280 sli.
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Well,certainly not in this:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3354&p=9
Neway,ATI has traditionally been a bit slow on the driver updates with cards reaching their optimum performance a couple of months(or even later) after it's released and CF is definitely a bit more diff....
If u read the review,though it seems nvidia also has problems in SLI,so after a month or so..maybe u can judge better.
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14-07-2008, 08:09 PM
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I WANT MORE FPS!!
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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read my post and read the anandtech crysis results which confirm my post.
2560 res high quality on 30"+ LCD.... Again I cleared mentioned "upto 1680*1050" sane resolutions. 2560 res gamers are too rare and too rich. They can go tri and quad sli and dont have to stick to crossfire.
See the history of driver release for previous gen cards of AMD. All they kept doing was to improve fps in games in which their fps was already good and did little about the games in which they sucked. So going by history, AMD will do little reduce their weakpoints and only spend their resources on strengthening their strong points. Of course AMD is changing history by not being sucky in performance. Hopefully it continues this trend of nonsuckiness with drivers too.
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14-07-2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: GTX 260 and HD 4870 dropped to the same price
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read my post and read the anandtech crysis results which confirm my post.
2560 res high quality on 30"+ LCD.... Again I cleared mentioned "upto 1680*1050" sane resolutions. 2560 res gamers are too rare and too rich. They can go tri and quad sli and dont have to stick to crossfire.
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My mistake i read hastily as i was in a hurry. AFAIK,some games like COD 4, u can play even with 8800 gt sli.Anyway,u said that even 9800 gtx sli is faster than 4870 CF,which if u read the whole review would have understood that it's not true.I'd say, 1080p would be a sane resolution for gamers right now, what with good quality 24" LCD's now becoming available at relatively low-price.At that resolution,u can see that 4870 CF scales really well even in crysis.(SIP-S)
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...ance-roundup/1
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See the history of driver release for previous gen cards of AMD. All they kept doing was to improve fps in games in which their fps was already good and did little about the games in which they sucked.
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When the drivers first came,the 3870 in CF had the similar performance as a single 3870.U've apparently not followed the history of driver releases closely.Same'd be the case with 4870x2..(though it can beat gtx 260 sli in crysis remains to be seen)
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