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The secret of Bill Gates' success
Straight from the horses mouth, need I say more.
See for yourself
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7464074.stm
Abstract:
"As Bill Gates prepares to end his full-time work at Microsoft, he tells the BBC in an interview that it wasn't just what Microsoft did, but what his rivals didn't do that let Microsoft get ahead."
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20-06-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
Great read.
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20-06-2008, 09:38 AM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
Good..Thanks for the link.....
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20-06-2008, 10:50 AM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
Nice read thanks!
Ah! The retiring notes of the man who changed the world, the man who gave the idea of paid software to this insane world... 
Screw him!!
But he has been a successful entreprenuer, no doubt at that.
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20-06-2008, 12:27 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
cool ........ thanx 4 info ........
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20-06-2008, 12:31 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
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Screw him!!
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 And who are you? What is your worth? What have you given back to society? Which Charity Foundation do you run? How much is your income? Mr. Nothing cursing a visionary  Now, haven't we seen this a thousand times.
At your age he had taken the steps that eventually led to a desktop on every desk. The very PC you're typing from, whether you run Linux makes no difference. It is because of this man that you have what you have.
Avoid using such statements.
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20-06-2008, 12:42 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
He is a visionary! *Salutes Sir Bill Gates*
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20-06-2008, 12:43 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
Billy is cute but his staff is not
A good business man IMO, he did whatever was necessary to compete, but i hate competition.
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20-06-2008, 12:49 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
^^ Competition is the reason behind better products.
@NK- Thanks. It was a wonderful read.
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20-06-2008, 01:21 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
when will bbc air it here in india?
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20-06-2008, 01:37 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
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^^ Competition is the reason behind better products.
@NK- Thanks. It was a wonderful read.
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competition leads to unfair and mean ways too
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20-06-2008, 01:38 PM
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That's human.
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20-06-2008, 02:11 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
Nice read mate!!!
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20-06-2008, 08:12 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
Good read, thanks for that. People can complain about Microsoft's products, and go the FOSS way, but Bill gates is a genius. He did what he truly believed in, and thats what lead to his success.
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20-06-2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
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Originally Posted by bikdel
Nice read thanks!
Ah! The retiring notes of the man who changed the world, the man who gave the idea of paid software to this insane world... 
Screw him!!
But he has been a successful entreprenuer, no doubt at that. 
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I believe in giving credit where credit is due.
Bill Gates will go down in history as a man who started a company that mass produced and sold an OS that ran on hardware not manufactured by them (IBM compatibles, not like Apple-hardware+software monopoly), and on which 3rd party developers could write applications. Microsoft created a new kind of software/hardware ecosystem altogether. I think for the first time the software advancement was driving the hardware development.
Windows 95 was my first OS and I thoroughly enjoyed it. That I almost exclusively use Linux now is a different issue.
With Windows and the falling prices of hardware computing is now truly accessible to a lot of people. However, I think that they should follow a different pricing strategy for emerging markets.
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21-06-2008, 10:56 AM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
Bill gates is a genius. We can talk all about how microsoft sucks and all that but one has to accept he brought true revolution into the world of software.
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21-06-2008, 11:26 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
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The very PC you're typing from, whether you run Linux makes no difference. It is because of this man that you have what you have.
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Not at all. There is not a single part of my system which was created for the first time by Microsoft.
GUI - XEROX (later bought by Apple from whom MS copied)
The current PC architecture - IBM
A highly modular software system design - Long before MS was even born (UNIX and even before that. In fact, MS is still trying to learn good OS deign with so called MinWin).
MS does not deserve credit for anything running on my system currently.
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21-06-2008, 11:28 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
^^  there is no help here
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21-06-2008, 11:34 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
I didn't expect any too.
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22-06-2008, 08:23 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
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 And who are you? What is your worth? What have you given back to society? Which Charity Foundation do you run? How much is your income? Mr. Nothing cursing a visionary  Now, haven't we seen this a thousand times.
At your age he had taken the steps that eventually led to a desktop on every desk. The very PC you're typing from, whether you run Linux makes no difference. It is because of this man that you have what you have.
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And who the hell is this bill gate ?
What is his worth ?
What he has given to socity ? monopoLies, how to snatch money
Charity foundation ? to save tax
He is great because of his income 
Yes he is visionary (money snatcher)
I have seen this only one time when i purchased my laptop but i can imagine about thousand(or millions) who everyday buy laptops or branded pc.
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It is because of this man that you have what you have.
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ROFL. Jago Manan pyare.Kya Mumbai mein hamesha andhera hi rehta hai
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He is a visionary! *Salutes Sir Bill Gates*
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22-06-2008, 08:45 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
gr8 read for sure
billu is a real winner in life.
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22-06-2008, 08:46 PM
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22-06-2008, 09:00 PM
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
@iMav.. perhaps why i hate forums/emils?sms's so much is that people wont actually get the thing you are trying to express..
i was cheerful when i typed my post, now u make me sad!... why? because I myself am using windows as i Dont know all of the windows-alternatives that Linux provides. Though I am using OEM version, It has come in my cost and though Windows Is good.. I had to pay... started out on windows and I credit it for having helped me so much till date..
But neverthelees YOU HAVE TO PAY. yes, they do work, and have to be paid but Linux does the work well enough and you dont have to pay... And windows is not affordable for those who buy the non-OEM one..
And unless you buy a non-OEM one for your custom built pcs, those people who flaunt that they use original windows but are buying OEM version, arent doing anything legal/morally correct.
And I have called him a successful entrepreneur because he knew very well that it would sell; software. And that definitely doesnt make him a god for we masses who find it difficult to use the Retail version of up-to-date windows OS, but for other OSs like linux, its pretty much of not-an-issue.
Maybe my post was vague but I had many things to say and maybe I jumbled up the things but the message I wanted to share is there..
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
@cuddcrazy
abe cute hi toh bola hai
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@chandru and @cadcrazy :very well said. In a world back 30 years,where softwares are not a paid thingy ,where innovations are shared,then comes the bill gates the monster who monopolized the IBM PC platform.he used software patents and what not to kill his rivals esp FOSS and Linux.
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And who the hell is this bill gate ?
What is his worth ?
What he has given to socity ? monopoLies, how to snatch money
Charity foundation ? to save tax
He is great because of his income 
Yes he is visionary (money snatcher)
I have seen this only one time when i purchased my laptop but i can imagine about thousand(or millions) who everyday buy laptops or branded pc.
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How did Microsoft become a "monopoly" ever thought of that? Why did IBM choose Bill's DOS over some crappy FOSS? Why? any answers? FOSS was free, IBM sure could have used FOSS than buying something? Why did they choose it? How did Windows become the most widely used OS? How? Wasn't FOSS there? Couldn't the companies choose a free alternative to a paid 1? I wonder why. The only reason to my mind is, it was frigging better than the crappy alternatives out there. The Linux you trumpet about came where it is because of Windows, Unix had a competitor to match up and catch up with. Windows set benchmarks in what an OS should be. It costs yes, but it set benchmarks, version after version, year after year.
But no you know what, Windows became the world's most widely used and every 9 out of 10 child's first ever used OS just like that.
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
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Why did IBM choose Bill's DOS over some crappy FOSS? Why? any answers? FOSS was free, IBM sure could have used FOSS than buying something? Why did they choose it?
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It is not Bill's DOS. It is Tim Paterson's DOS. Microsoft was never capable of innovation even of that small scale. Also, Linux did not exist back then. If not IBM would have definitely chosen Linux as even its early design was far better than even Vista (DOS is no where near).
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The Linux you trumpet about came where it is because of Windows,
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It is just what you would like to believe. If not show me one authentic proof (Not the meaningless patent troll from Ballmer) that Linux owes its existence to Microsoft for so and so reasons.
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Windows set benchmarks in what an OS should be. It costs yes, but it set benchmarks, version after version, year after year.
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Well you use terms without knowing their real meaning I guess. Tell me one universal benchmark (MS's own benchmarks for its own OS does not count. They are created just for marketing) for OS evaluation which was set due to excellent performance by any version of Windows.
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But no you know what, Windows became the world's most widely used and every 9 out of 10 child's first ever used OS just like that.
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This has nothing to make Bill the God, it is called monopoly and yes Bill is a superb monopolist.
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
peace guys.... go chillzzz .. iMAV : no help here  ,
Chandru : its a very interesting read  enjoy it man ... waise liked it
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Re: The secret of Bill Gates' success
linux is a community effort that took the pace with the increased interconnectivity among members via internet.
back then internet was not that prevalent.
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I can only imagine what would happen if Ubuntu were to come out in the days of DOS, no net connection found. please connect to internet to download xcopy command features
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