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Old 12-06-2008, 10:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Turkey donanimhaber.com revealed the AMD official Radeon HD 4870/4850 game performances info.

Radeon HD 4870 faced to the high-end game market while Radeon HD 4850 is for the mainstream game market (below 200$) and it can run most of the games at HD and high settings.



Radeon HD 4870 against for GeForce 9800 GTX and Radeon HD 4850 against for GeForce 8800 GT. The settings are 1900×1200, 4xAA and 8xAF.



Of course, AMD won. HD 4870 is better than 9800 GTX about 40% while HD 4850 is 30-50% better than 8800 GT.





Now - Anyone Who Still Wants to buy 9800GTX?
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Suggested price in India for the 4850?
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should be the same as 8800GT if its sub 200.
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Looks like I need to set aside some cash for the 4870! I am guessing it will be at least 60% faster than my current 8800 GT. Impressive!

To go with the 800 stream processors, the 48xx series looks great, and already nVidia are in trouble, having to reduce the price of the GTX 200 series. The 4870 X2 will surely beat the GTX 280.
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any news on HD 4870 X2?
guess it has same ratio of improvement as older HD3870 X2 has over single HD 3870.
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red looks good, am getting good options to upgrade later, probably September (teh time clear sky will be released)
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4850 fer moi!
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any news on HD 4870 X2?
guess it has same ratio of improvement as older HD3870 X2 has over single HD 3870.
4870 X2 is due for August. The performance difference should be even more, as the 4870 X2 does away with the PCIe 1.0 bridge chip, and communicates between GPUs through the VRAM. That is some 150+ GB/s vs 4 GB/s. I am sure they will make other refinements to the multi-GPU setup too.
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its up for sale in hongkong
http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3564





more on that webpage...



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4850>>GTX280 !! in 3D mark
http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3560
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http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3560

HD 4850 beats 280GTX on vantage
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i wanna have 4850...

hey, just got a thought... can nvidia and ati be used in sli or crossfire mode??
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nope.. ATi-ATi and Nv-Nv only.
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nope. U cant synchronize an ATI nd nvidia card.
U can get one HD 4850 and crossfire it later when prices come down. Or even add a lower end HD 4xxx like HD 4650[maybe].
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hey........nice to hear abt the HD4xxx releases from ATi.........nVidia will get pissed of this time.
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i think its cost will be around 12k in india. US cost~10k

AMD's Unleashonetera website-
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btw 4870 to be priced at 349 $ while GTX260 to costs 399$
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Thats awesome! AMD-ATi rox..
I just hope the same happens among processors also... AMD beating Intel...
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red looks good, am getting good options to upgrade later, probably September (teh time clear sky will be released)
Didnt get ya.. Clear Sky???


Guys, what does the Y-axis in the graph mean?... is it just simplifying frames into smaller numbers??

ADDED: Guys why are ATI cards priced astronomically here over NVidia cards?.. are specific reasons?.
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I think its FPS/100 . Makes no sense...
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@nvidia.. FPS by 100?? 88oo GT wont give 100 fps at 1920x1080 4xaa 8xaf in crysis.. lolz
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^^ Just kidding.. It makes no sense i said in the prev post.. FPS, FPS/10, FPS/100.. Nothing makes sense. Maybe they used some kind of benchmarking software like 3-d mark..
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Didnt get ya.. Clear Sky???


Guys, what does the Y-axis in the graph mean?... is it just simplifying frames into smaller numbers??

ADDED: Guys why are ATI cards priced astronomically here over NVidia cards?.. are specific reasons?.
coz, ATi seems much ahead of nvidia in technology.
Their GPUs are 55nm, which are cheaper for pruduction and also frits more[in performance]. Then the HD 4870 employs GDDR5, which again wud be cheaper if mass produced when compared to GDDR3.
Also, this new HD 4870 nd 4850 employs same 256bit memory b/w which helps keep the price low, but GTX 280 uses 512 bit which is insanely expensive option but only GDDR3 with it.
ATI once learned that its too early to go for 512 bit with the underpowered GPU's with their HD 2900XT. They learned it wud take almost a 5~6x powerful GPU to utilize the masssive b/w of 512 bit. ATI, used 256 this time also to keep prices low, and shifter to GDDR5 to compromise this.
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@dominator: Shouldn't GDDR5 be more expensive than GDDR3?
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coz, ATi seems much ahead of nvidia in technology.
Their GPUs are 55nm, which are cheaper for pruduction and also frits more[in performance]. Then the HD 4870 employs GDDR5, which again wud be cheaper if mass produced when compared to GDDR3.
Also, this new HD 4870 nd 4850 employs same 256bit memory b/w which helps keep the price low, but GTX 280 uses 512 bit which is insanely expensive option but only GDDR3 with it.
ATI once learned that its too early to go for 512 bit with the underpowered GPU's with their HD 2900XT. They learned it wud take almost a 5~6x powerful GPU to utilize the masssive b/w of 512 bit. ATI, used 256 this time also to keep prices low, and shifter to GDDR5 to compromise this.

you didnt get me dude... Im not askin why ATI is cheaper than Nvidia internationally..

Im asking why ATI cards are expensive in this part of the world we live in, than nvidia..

Nvidia prices are similar, US and Here albiet a small difference. But ATI cards have been expensive by a huge margin... why?

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its up for sale in hongkong
http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3564



more on that webpage...




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Also.. which one is the score of 4850? and which one is gtx280/ and why are there 3 scores?... man this site sucks...
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Nvidia prices are similar, US and Here albiet a small difference. But ATI cards have been expensive by a huge margin... why?
ATi cards are imported i think and heavy taxes are levied. That additional burden is laid on the person who buys the card.
Moreover, AMD-ATi is not very popular among n00bs. You go and ask a dealer to recommend a graphics card and the immediate response would be an nvidia card. They don't even put ATi as an option among the customers. Only those who really know about it ask for it and buy it.
I guess ATi is not really interested in advertising in the country to expand their sales. Anyways, there isn't enough money with AMD to advertise right now. How long has it been since we've seen an AMD ad? I don't even remember seeing one.
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Didnt get ya.. Clear Sky???
clear sky is teh game the game am waiting for

ATI is more expensive coz of the reasons explained above by other members.

I would love to hav red this time
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^^ red one, u mean a red card? Whts color got to do?
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what dyo think, nvidia makes its card in India?

And whts the price of 4870?? In $? Also how much may it cost in india.
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he meant
ATI's are red monsters
and nvidia = green beasts
Most of the ATI's card's are on red PCB with red "ATI" label. No need to describe the greens in nvidia.


[errrrr, red has no relation with pink ]

maybe ATI itself is not interested in expanding market in our location. Caz
brans like MSI is much cheaper for nvidia cards. Price difference b/w here nd US for MSI nvidia cards is much less. But the price difference b/w MSI's ATI cards in here nd US is huge.
The sales in US nd Europe is 2~3x times greater than in here. Maybe they are trying to hold the western market first, then the whole world. Its foolish to take the whole world gfx market on one try.
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