Google Unveils iPhone 'Killer'

[gopi_vbboy]

NEW YORK — Will the Google phone have you hanging up your iPhone?

Google unveiled the software for its much-anticipated new phone last week, and it's loaded with fun features, including an unlocking tool that allows users to create a secret shape that must be drawn on the screen.

The phone will, naturally, feature the Google Web browser, Google Mail and Google Maps. The Street View feature, similar to what you can get on your desktop with Google Maps, will turn in The same direction as the person holding the phone.

The phone will also include a compass, magnifying tool and a version of the game Pac-Man. Its touch-screen technology will be similar to that of an Apple iPhone, but it will also be able to work with a tracking ball.

Google is not making the phones, just working to develop the Android operating system that manufacturers will install. Companies such as Samsung and Motorola have said they will make phones that run on Android.

Source:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361275,00.html

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Hmm...

i Think Google phone gonna rule the mobile internet....

[bikdel]

I am postponing my celkphone purchase till android phones hits the shelves.

[gopi_vbboy]

Originally Posted by bikdel

I am postponing my celkphone purchase till android phones hits the shelves.

ahh...u r a google fan i suppose

[desiibond]

Guys, please stop this iphone killer things. For gods sake, iphone has 0.16% market share.

YOu know what real iphone killers are. It's Nokia 6233, SE K790i ...

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by desiibond

Guys, please stop this iphone killer things. For gods sake, iphone has 0.16% market share.

YOu know what real iphone killers are. It's Nokia 6233, SE K790i ...

+1

But iPhone is the most over hyped phone, and ANDROID is set to beat that. It has community support, plus it has the backing of Google. So its set to cause a huuuuuuge bang indeed when it comes, and we can only wait for it to become stable and be released to OEMs.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

+1

But iPhone is the most over hyped phone, and ANDROID is set to beat that. It has community support, plus it has the backing of Google. So its set to cause a huuuuuuge bang indeed when it comes, and we can only wait for it to become stable and be released to OEMs.

iphone does not have community support ? Isnt Apple a reputed brand ?

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by Pat

iphone does not have community support ? Isnt Apple a reputed brand ?

community support means community support.
I am talking of a huge userbase willing to hack the system to the core and developing community apps.
As in Open Source.

[desiibond]

or a symbian where you get hundreds of apps for each task

[praka123]

symbian got split with uiq and all.also they are not open

[desiibond]

hehe. they aren't open but they have a better and bigger base. Atleast they provide SDK to develop application.

If I stick to Open source, I will not be able to even buy a phone coz none of the phone manufacturers are providing source code of their phones OS (may be few chinese provides this).

[praka123]

N800

[Pat]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

community support means community support.
I am talking of a huge userbase willing to hack the system to the core and developing community apps.

Isnt that true for the iphone as well ? Ever been to hackint0sh forums ?

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by praka123

N800

what made you think that N800 is a phone??

Originally Posted by Pat

Isnt that true for the iphone as well ? Ever been to hackint0sh forums ?

getjar.com
mobile9.net

Compare the above with iphone app download sites. You will know the difference.

[praka123]

it is mobile9.com thx for that.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by desiibond

getjar.com
mobile9.net

Compare the above with iphone app download sites. You will know the difference.

Wow..Thats a cool comparison..iphone vs all other platforms
Ok I agree the software library for symbian or wm is bigger than iphones, but how long has iphone been there ?
Also even more importantly the discussion was about a community that hacks the OS/phone to the core and makes community apps available, which is true also in case of iphones, hence your comment in invalid!

[sakumar79]

^^^ Besides, I think that desiibond and Gautam are missing the point that when people talk about iphone killers, they are not alluding to the iphone's features/specs (which may not be that great compared to other phones in its price range) but to its UI and ease of use...

Arun

[x3060]

lets just hope the best for google , cause whatever they touch turns to good...i am confident about this one...

[swordfish]

Man there are so many iphone killers are in market nw.. why police is not arresting them!!

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by sakumar79

^^^ Besides, I think that desiibond and Gautam are missing the point that when people talk about iphone killers, they are not alluding to the iphone's features/specs (which may not be that great compared to other phones in its price range) but to its UI and ease of use...

Arun

dude. The one who rules the market is the one who has the market share and not the one who has the coolest UI. A phone becomes a hit not just by look but by being a VFM phone. So, you don't need to have a 30k phone to kill another 30k phone. All you need is something that does everything and costs nothing, like N73, K810, 6233, E61i, P1i. These are the phones that are setting benchmarks and not the phones that have cool UI and nothing else.

It doesn't matter when a phone is out. You don't term it as market leader because of the thought that it may have huge app support in the future. Corporates live in reality and fanboys live in dreams.

[gopi_vbboy]

With some good innovation in mobile internet...lets hope google brings something good.....google rules the net...

[sakumar79]

@desiibond, the term iphone-killer has nothing to do with vfm and features or with being a market leader... Personally I would never buy the iphone since it is not vfm and its basic features of call clarity,etc are not that great ... But what people are now trying to is outdo the iphone in the UI... That is why people are trying to call these phone as iphone-killer.... The talk is only related to the UI and not to the features...

Arun

[dheeraj_kumar]

Interesting, this is. Trying to join the mobile OS war too? I mean, we have Sony's own, and Symbian, and linux...

[goobimama]

I really liked that compass view of the Google streetview thing. Seems really trippy.

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by desiibond

A phone becomes a hit not just by look but by being a VFM phone. So, you don't need to have a 30k phone to kill another 30k phone. All you need is something that does everything and costs nothing

Typical cheap Indian mentality. Number of features and price are the only two benchmarks you guys use to judge products. The quality of said features is not even a consideration, as is clearly evident by your unabashedly frank statement.

In India, VFM = cheap. When I said this to iMav a few days ago, he disagreed with me. Here’s solid proof.

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Also, some of you are talking about Android having a large community and user base. Which planet are you living on? Android phones haven’t even been released yet and it does not have a single user.

It’s just software right now, albeit one that does sound promising.

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When you talk about the iPhone, none of you seem to be taking into consideration the fact that the App Store is set to launch within the next few days, an event that will trigger an onslaught of high quality, authorised third party applications for the device that will elevate its usefulness and potential beyond anything you’ve come to expect from mobile phones, and even handheld devices in general. Wait and watch, there’s a revolution in the making in Cupertino right now.

[chandru.in]

Quality in iPhone? Well any platform or device which is so damn closed will be secure, stable and have least problems.

That's exactly how Apple ensures quality on desktop too. Do not allow users to try non-apple hardware! If alone Apple allowed Mac OS X to run on any PC hardware and allow third party apps on iPhone without jails like app store, then we'll see how Mac OS X would suffer from driver problems and how many malware would appear for iPhone. Waiting for that day!!

[preshit.net]

And how is that a bad thing ? By keeping it tied to the hardware, they're saving the user from any kind of hassle or headaches.

And if we go by your theory, then Linux, which is so easily customizable would have had millions of malware by now, right ? right ?

Oh, and you most certainly will have to keep waiting for that day.

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And how exactly is the App store a jail ? It's only the security at the entrance.
The developer can make the app in any way he wants. He can either set the price for the app, or give it away for free. The user on the other hand can find all apps in one single place, neatly categorized. I don't think a Jail is something like this.

[chandru.in]

Well that was not exactly meant to slander Apple. The tying to hardware is a double-edged sword. But claiming that only iPhone would have quality and Android based phone (possibly VFM) may not have it doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by aryayush

Typical cheap Indian mentality. Number of features and price are the only two benchmarks you guys use to judge products. The quality of said features is not even a consideration, as is clearly evident by your unabashedly frank statement.

In India, VFM = cheap. When I said this to iMav a few days ago, he disagreed with me. Here’s solid proof.

Also, the biggest innovation in iPhone is the UI (saying in positive tone) otherwise it is not anything revolutionary. Also, I mentioned malware because avoiding malware was stated as the reason for not allowing third-party apps initially. Then they gave up to market pressure and gave an SDK but to distribute it still developers need to go through Apple's app store.

It is not exactly a Jail but the developers are eternally at the mercy of Apple when creating iPhone apps. 30% revenue taken as tax by Apple for so called upkeeping. If they let developers distribute apps without app store, Developers need not pay this tax.

An open platform is very very different from open-source. And whether you like it or not, Windows is an open platform. But the Mac OS X on iPhone is not at all an open platform.

Well I don't mind I have open-source with me anyway.

[goobimama]

Can you yourself understand what you have said? I sure can't figure it out.

[chandru.in]

Please close Photoshop and fire-up iWrite to do some word processing.

Anyway to simplify things the Apple way,

1. Claiming that VFM phones (possibly Android based in future) will somehow be of lower quality than iPhone (as Aryayush did) is baseless
2. The Mac OS X in iPhone is far far less of an open platform than even Windows Mobile (not even close to Android or openMoko).
3. Developers have to eternally pay 30% tax to Apple when creating iPhone apps and distributing them through app store.

[goobimama]

1. Aayush didn't say the Android platform will be of lower quality than the iPhone. He merely stated that as of now, it is not even a platform. He also went on to talk about how awesome the iPhone platform is going to be soon.
2. True that. And with reasons you mentioned in your first post, that is, to prevent malware and ultimately — at least in Apple's and my opinion — a smoother environment for the customer.
3. Well they do have bandwidth concerns and such. I'm not sure whether 30% is good or bad. Also, if a developer makes an app for free, there is no charge.