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Old 03-06-2008, 02:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is the CPU more important or the GPU? Up until now, that’s mostly been a topic suitable for Usenet arguments. But this fall, consumers shopping for uber-rigs may actually be forced to pick a side when Intel’s next-generation Nehalem CPU will likely ship without SLI support.

Although Intel and Nvidia won’t comment on whether SLI would be offered in Intel’s Tylersburg chipset for Nehalem or through a new Nehalem-ready nForce chipset, a half-dozen PC builders told Maximum PC that this dream configuration is definitely not going to happen when the chip launches.

“(this situation) really hurts us,” said one vendor, who asked to remain anonymous. “If someone wants a Nehalem with two SLI cards, we can’t do it. It kind of sucks for system integrators.”

The bad news, PC vendors say, is that faced with such a conundrum, consumers may simply decide to buy nothing while the issue gets hashed out. Unfortunately, it’s not clear when a compromise will happen or even if it will happen. It’s even more difficult to find someone to blame. With both companies tossing quotable stink grenades at each other every other week, many OEMs believe it’s not just “coopetition” any more but World War III – with OEMs and enthusiasts caught in the crossfire.

SLI was originally developed and marketed on an Intel chipset. Many were skeptical of its potential for success but it hit a vein with gamers who had to have everything and was also a hit with the “buy one, get one later” crowd. And although many believe SLI will work fine on Intel’s current X48 chipset, Nvidia has never supported Intel desktop chipsets with SLI. Nvidia has always attributed this incompatibility to “validation” issues but most observers believe it’s more of a business decision to help sell nForce SLI chipsets. For the last few years, enthusiasts who wanted to pair SLI and Intel CPUs could only do so by buying [Nvidia designed] nForce SLI-based boards. That won’t work with Nehalem as the new chip and its LGA1366 socket is incompatible with existing LGA775 motherboards.

When asked about SLI for Nehalem, Intel spokesman Daniel Snyder said: “Tylersburg (the chipset for Nehalem) will work mechanically and electrically with multiple-graphics-card solutions.” He added that AMD plans to fully support the Tylersburg chipset with CrossFire and other vendors could as well – if they wanted to.

Nvidia spokesman Brian Burke would not comment on any upcoming SLI chipsets for Nehalem but he appeared to nix any ideas of SLI running on an Intel chipset as a solution.

“SLI is not just plugging in two boards; that’s not what SLI is. Crossfire may be that but we view SLI as the experience and the brand, we want to protect our brand with an ecosystem that works,” Burke said. He said how the GPUs interact with the chipset is also a very important part of the equation, so Nvidia’s plans are to continue to support SLI through an nForce chipset. “We do have full licensing in our licensing agreement (to build for Nehalem),” Burke said. “We don’t have a product for Nehalem. Right now.”


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Old 03-06-2008, 03:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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nVIDIA is soon going to die out anyway. ATi is catching up fast and its HD4870 single is a 9800GX2 killer.

But I think this means AMD can gain the upper hand once again, because they will be in a win-win situation, with nvidia first loosing out to nehalem fans, or intel loosing out to sli fans. Either way, AMD is going to rock.

I hope AMD Geode improves suffitiently and gets below the 8$ manufacturing cost to beat Atom and Nano.
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yes,even i am fully with amd now-a-days,fed up of nvidia ....
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I'm actually with nVidia on this.... their Tegra platform for MID/Smartphone kicks the hell out of Intel's Atom solution... Tegra can decode real-time 720p videos and play Quake 3 with AA/AF at 40 FPS while consuming around 2 Watts of Power.. This is definitely a win on Mobile Platform....If their CUDA solution works out properly in real-world scenario, then I guess they are up for a good start.

Watch awesome demonstrations of the TEGRA platform right here:

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And on my personal experience, I am more than happy with the current nvidia products that I have now. I have owned this system now for months and whats awesome is I have experienced awesome performance in the graphics/gaming dept and that too with not a single crash till date.... Long Live nVidia !!!!
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nvidia going down aint going to help indians. . ati g-cards dont have much market here. .
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