Indian ISPs among the BitTorrent Throttling ISPs

snubbed · 22-04-2008, 02:37 PM

Source - http://torrentfreak.com//images/vuze...in-results.pdf
All the major Indian ISPs - BSNL, VSNL, Reliance, Airtel are in that list.

I've myself experienced it in my Airtel connection. When i easily get 30-31kbps in my 256kbps connection for http downloads I get only 20-24kbps on a well seeded torrent.

victor_rambo · 22-04-2008, 02:51 PM

If I am not wrong, Indian ISPs are famous for many malpractices as well.

Hrithan2020 · 22-04-2008, 03:50 PM

Thats fine with me.

debsuvra · 22-04-2008, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rohan_shenoy

If I am not wrong, Indian ISPs are famous for many malpractices as well.

Yes that right. And that happens because most of the Indian broadband users are ignorant to what they are getting from ISPs.

victor_rambo · 22-04-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by debsuvra

Yes that right. And that happens because most of the Indian broadband users are ignorant to what they are getting from ISPs.

Moreover, their custoemr care sucks........for any problem they have only one solution: "Sir, please do anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-adware scan and your problem will be solved."

I have had more pathetic incidents with CC guys!
CC is more of a "fancy" term with hardly any "value" atleast in some companies.

techtronic · 22-04-2008, 07:17 PM

I think that every ISP will start manipulating HTTP Traffic next. Total nut crackers

clmlbx · 22-04-2008, 10:35 PM

not a way..............I really reject this I use airtel and i get a fanatastic speeds......... and their(airtel) customer care is superb mine problems get solve in less then 3-4 hours.airtel rocksss

naveen_reloaded · 23-04-2008, 12:08 AM

Wow my doubts now confirmed...
What did i tell ya guys... I suspected this...
But the thing is they affect my download only at some times...
What shall we do guys?
Is there a way to complain? In u.s this could be seen in a different angle...but in india with corrupt officials...g dont think we will ever move another step..,
Hoping for next version of torrent technology to hit...coz now with all ISP's started to block torrent , its time we make a next move...
Please dont delete this thread since because it has torrent word in it...
This is a bad activity from ISP's towards free internet...
And its against very basic rule of free internet !
Keep this thread alive...

victor_rambo · 23-04-2008, 12:14 AM

Most Indian ISPs are like cheap overselling wehbosts. Everything is ok till you are using only a "little bit" of what is allocated to you.

sam9s · 23-04-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by clmlbx

not a way..............I really reject this I use airtel and i get a fanatastic speeds......... and their(airtel) customer care is superb mine problems get solve in less then 3-4 hours.airtel rocksss

I vouch for you partner......I also have been using Airtel for 2 years now and I am getting more than expected speeds, that too without any major problem. On couple of instances my modem stopped working and it was replaced as promised within 4 hrs (which is what they claim their SLA to be). Very happy with Airtel (Touch Wood) and I wish they soon launch a 1Mbps conn speed within 1500.

Quote:

Originally Posted by naveen_reloaded

Hoping for next version of torrent technology to hit...coz now with all ISP's started to block torrent , its time we make a next move...
Please dont delete this thread since because it has torrent word in it...
This is a bad activity from ISP's towards free internet...
And its against very basic rule of free internet !
Keep this thread alive...

Screw torrent, I use RS, direct download, absolute blazing speeds only bottelnecked by your ISP.

gary4gar · 23-04-2008, 02:59 AM

The median reset rate
BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone: 11.14%

pretty serious numbers here

akshaykapoor_3 · 23-04-2008, 06:28 AM

Yes torrent speeds are being throttled over here in chandigarh.

Everyday at 7:00 in the morning my connection goes off and it's back by 8:05... Am very much sure that this is intentionally done... Torrent speeds never go above 211kBps and bsnl customer care sucks...

napster007 · 23-04-2008, 07:29 AM

look on the bright side guys.....piracy over the p2p network is shooting for the stars in india now and the ISP's give a rats ass about it. so we have a bit of advantage too!

naveen_reloaded · 23-04-2008, 03:05 PM

I dont get you napster..

Sam9s....
Oh yeah rs sucks big time dude...next time try to download a big chunk of file and when its half way and something happens then you will know which one is best...i agree for small files say withing 100mb its ok...but above it torrent rocks...no denial!

And explain me why torrent contributes to major sharing part rather than your r.s...

napster007 · 23-04-2008, 08:17 PM

^^whats not to get....ISP's over here know the amount of piracy that goes around but don't care at all. In other countries they have strict rules. So indian ISP's have their own advantage

DigitalDude · 23-04-2008, 09:40 PM

^^^
can you name a few the countries that have strict rules against piracy over torrents ?

_

naveen_reloaded · 23-04-2008, 10:04 PM

Actually its difficult to control piracy in india...the underground world cant be controlled by some riaa officials or anyone...its much more complicated... If they control internet , everyone will swift to the old way of getting what they want...
I think its better we change the way internet works or change torrent working...

I seriously dont get it...what if i run a server ? Wont there be a constant upload and download? Wont that affect their network? What if tom world is changing to grid computing? When all system are interconnected and world together? Wont there be strain on this network?
I think it better we introduce something along with introduction of ip6...

snubbed · 25-04-2008, 04:19 PM

I've been experiencing throttling in Airtel only sometimes, but i'm sure there is some throttling going on. With BSNL i've never experienced throttling instead i've found speeds go above 250-300kbps in upto 2mbps plans.

naveen_reloaded · 25-04-2008, 10:19 PM

Actually the result shown by azureus is total number of tcp reset...which includes all the other factors causing the reset too....may be al isp are listed mainly coz of weak backbone of our networks....not necessarily throttling....this is one theory...
Any update guys?

sam9s · 26-04-2008, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naveen_reloaded

I dont get you napster..

Sam9s....
Oh yeah rs sucks big time dude...next time try to download a big chunk of file and when its half way and something happens then you will know which one is best...i agree for small files say withing 100mb its ok...but above it torrent rocks...no denial!

And explain me why torrent contributes to major sharing part rather than your r.s...

Nope I completely disagree, and I am talking about the paid account, not the free stuff which usually people use. And you telling me to try to download a big chunk of file.....man....for 400/months I crack the ass out of RS with avg d/l of more than 25GB/week!. And there is no question of stucking halfway as flashget 9+ versions are awsome and gives you blazing speeds, without bothering of stucking anywhere in between......

torrent on the other hand sucks, coz it greatly depends on the seeds, peers and health, plus your ISP quality as well. With RS all you need to worry about is how high your isp can go, no other bottleneck.......

Quote:

And explain me why torrent contributes to major sharing part rather than your r.s

Simple its free...

NucleusKore · 26-04-2008, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naveen_reloaded

Is there a way to complain? In u.s this could be seen in a different angle...but in india with corrupt officials...

They will want to know WHAT are you downloading in GBs

Unless you have a roomful of linux distros

naveen_reloaded · 26-04-2008, 10:44 AM

Shall i say that i an downloading movies as a preview so that i can see movie when its released in theatres...hi hi hi... I think isp are not here to control us particularly when we are india...am i right? ?

NucleusKore · 26-04-2008, 11:45 AM

No comments on that, it's only a matter of time before Bollywood producers go the RIAA way, we are a big market you know

Maverick340 · 26-04-2008, 07:45 PM

Hathway seems do be doing it ..

sagargv · 26-04-2008, 08:01 PM

whats the RIAA way ?

praka123 · 26-04-2008, 08:27 PM

^ http://defectivebydesign.org
RIAA is hollywood recording industry mafia.they want DRM everywhere.@nucleus suspects,it will be the same here in India too somewhere near.
By the way,there are fans for DRM in this forum

http://www.linux.com/feature/55214

kumarmohit · 26-04-2008, 09:33 PM

Seems praka got a bit swept.

Going the RIAA way does not mean DRM (Not that I say it is good).
N number of business organizations use DRM not only RIAA. Infact it is the music lable and not RIAA which gives you DRM.

It means that you start suing people left right and center and doing it without having proper information to begin with. RIAA is sueing its customers in courts. Morelike threatening to sue them in case they do not cough the crazy amounts of settlement money.

They have sent letters to about 20 universities to identify students indulged in file sharing and so that they can take them to the court.

The idiots have sued anywhere between an 8 year old girl to an eighty year old grand mother. They even had the nerve to sue a person who was dead some time back.

Details are here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA
and here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_g...t_file_sharing

**ico** · 26-04-2008, 10:52 PM

After sometime, those RIAA guys will even start suing people for listening to a DRM protected song at their friend's house...I mean a DRM protected song which is in their friend's computer..........

Anyways, I get 220+ KB/s speed in Torrents....

kumarmohit · 26-04-2008, 10:59 PM

Take it from me, RIAA wud not need the song to be DRM protected to sue anyone, speaking about that, they would not need a song to sue anyone. They even tried to sue ppl who were "suspected to infringe" copyrights of the people who were not even protected under their provisions.