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11-04-2008, 07:15 AM
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TheSaint
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Wow Is Now....
It's so easy to get cash  .........
"Security experts have hacked ATMs to show how easy it is to steal money and bank account details from modern cash machines."
Read On
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11-04-2008, 09:01 PM
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Broken In
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Re: Wow Is Now....
lets learn the trick......lol
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11-04-2008, 09:39 PM
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Tribal Boy
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Re: Wow Is Now....
I am not sure whether you know, UTI Bank (now Axis Bank) ATM runs on Windows 2000 ! I know it personally.
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12-04-2008, 01:56 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
^^^
Really, is it true?
how can you say so?
I Think ATM are NOT connected to internet, they use intranet
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12-04-2008, 03:19 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Yeah this is true .
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12-04-2008, 07:40 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
I wish i got 500k when i typed in 500Rs.....LOL!
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12-04-2008, 09:03 AM
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Tribal Boy
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Re: Wow Is Now....
@gary4gar
Yes it is true ! I know it is not easy to find as we do not spend a lot of time in any ATM. anyway here is how I found that.
Happened 1 yr back I think. I went to UTI Bank ATM, before inserting the card, I saw a strange message - That was very similar to the one we see in our PC, I mean the message window. The message was something about licensing. License expires on so and so date, so do something etc. It was written 'Windows Server' somewhere in the message.
I posted the incident in Thinkdigit forum but even I was not 100% sure it is windows.
Recently I went to the same ATM. Two girls were waiting outside the ATM and some technicians (electrical section) were doing something in the ATM room. The girl was like worried, she was talking to the other girl - I do not know what my Dad will tell if he know about it. Then she asked me whats the procedure if the ATM card get stuck in the machine !
The problem was power was down and the alternative source, I guess some sort of UPS also went down / failed when the girl inserted the card.
After some time the technicians repaired / fixed the UPS and guess what ?
The ATM machine 'booted' showing the familiar - Windows 2000 boot screen !
Also, ATM and core banking machines (servers) are connected to either BSNL line (yes, that is correct !) or to direct linking (some antenna like that of tata sky) to the satellite or so. But those are not the normal lines I think, and not connected to internet, may be intranet for the particular bank / network.
Edit : BSNL lines - may be different in different places, I mean may be some other provide the lines in other areas of India.
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12-04-2008, 09:09 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
STATE BANK ATM's connects to their bombay server's for transaction.using a Dish for communication.
came to know once ATM was down and the bank guy said.
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12-04-2008, 09:11 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Is ATM Netowork & whole CBS are Live on internet?
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12-04-2008, 10:24 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
yes .. even SBI ATM machines uses Windows 2000 ! now XP professional
the actual PC will be hidden behind. in every ATM there is secret door which obviously many cannot figure out.
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12-04-2008, 10:28 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Yeah, i have seen to that Door.
There whole of Routers and other networking equipment kept there.
I have seen it myself
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12-04-2008, 12:51 PM
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Tribal Boy
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Re: Wow Is Now....
No, I do not think it is connected to internet, I think its their intranet. May be Batty can confirm.
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12-04-2008, 04:09 PM
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12-04-2008, 05:00 PM
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Cool as a CUCUMBAR ! ! !
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Re: Wow Is Now....
doing it JOHN CONNOR way [T2] .....
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12-04-2008, 06:50 PM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
wel i can get to know everything abt SBI atm as my dad is chief manager there.but i never bothered to ask him.wil ask him abt all the system one day.
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12-04-2008, 07:01 PM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
were you having a little problem giving more detail here.. atleast some more text..
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12-04-2008, 08:06 PM
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Wire muncher!
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Most of the ATMs haf now migrated from OS/2 to Windows. An observation: Uptimes of Win2K based ATMs is more than their XP counterparts!!!
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12-04-2008, 08:50 PM
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TheSaint
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Quote:
Originally Posted by shantanu
were you having a little problem giving more detail here.. atleast some more text.. 
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The little text I have mentioned in double quotes in the post IS from the article. I did not want to mention any OS, that might have put off some people and discouraged them from even bothering to look at the article.
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12-04-2008, 09:59 PM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Even SBI ATMs run on Windows NT or something. One day I saw the command prompt running when I went to withdraw money. I started playing with the interface but a man standing next to it said, "mat karo. kharab ho jayega". So I stopped messing around.
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12-04-2008, 10:58 PM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
I remember seeing HDFC ones booting on some distro of linux... probably red hat...
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13-04-2008, 06:13 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
^that's better
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13-04-2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
What's intranet? sorry, got from wikipedia..........
There was a news a year ago that one man's money in an atm when transfered to his account in india changed to another man's account. The second man who was struggling for his daughter's marrage, when released some money from his account, the slip showed that 1.5 crore were left in his account instead of 20,000...........
I think it is true if my memory is in straight way............ I have read it somewhere..........
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13-04-2008, 03:09 PM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
^where it happened?kothamangalam?
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13-04-2008, 07:40 PM
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Broken In
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Have seen XP and NT 4.0 in different ATMs of SBI.
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13-04-2008, 08:42 PM
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GaurishSharma.com
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Re: Wow Is Now....
So now this is confirmed they Most banks use Windows platform.
Now next question, how secure they are?
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13-04-2008, 10:22 PM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Quote:
Originally Posted by gary4gar
So now this is confirmed they Most banks use Windows platform.
Now next question, how secure they are?
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now I hope this thread doesn't become another os flamewar.
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14-04-2008, 10:53 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
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Originally Posted by praka123
^where it happened?kothamangalam? 
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Not @ Kothamanalam. But i have read it @ Malayalamanorama and have seen it in Asianet news.......
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14-04-2008, 11:14 AM
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Quote:
Originally Posted by rohan_shenoy
now I hope this thread doesn't become another os flamewar.
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Well, My concern was
How safe is your money in ATMs
can the security be compromised?
I do not wish to target any specific plaform
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14-04-2008, 11:39 AM
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Bond, Desi Bond!
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Re: Wow Is Now....
Citibank ATM's too run on Windows 2k. Once the ATM restarted and we saw the whole windows booting thing and in the end the ATM app came up
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