3G iPhone Arriving Sooner Than Expected

[CadCrazy]

Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster has recently told Apple investors to look out for a MacBook Touch by 2010. The man also weighed in on recent iPhone shortages as a clear hint that the 3G model is just around the corner. The man claims Apple is closing out of its own stock to clear the way for new iPhone SKU, according to The New York Times.

Munster says there is an "80 percent chance
that a new version of the iPhone is coming earlier than anticipated," speaking his mind about the possible reasons for the shortage. According to the aforementioned source however, A.M. Sacconaghi Jr. of Sanford C. Bernstein thinks otherwise. The analyst has actually come with an opposite conclusion, noting that AT&T and Apple stores aren't lacking iPhones at all:

"An inventory shortage of Apple products often signals an imminent product refresh, but in this case, the stock-out seems too selective: Apple’s distribution partners would likely be extremely upset if Apple managed the product transition only for its own stores. In addition, the 3G iPhone would arguably be more important for the European market; yet the current-generation phone remains widely in stock in Europe," he said.

Sacconaghi also notes that Apple's way of handling its business doesn't include on-purpose shortages. As the analyst claims, Apple would rather have temporary iPhone shortages than clearing out all of its stock.

Apple was of course contacted for clarification on the matter. While not available for comments at first, Apple's Steve Dowling has recently said that: "We are working to replenish iPhone supplies as quickly as we can. Our stores continue to receive shipments almost every day," not clearing the air of speculation one bit.

Asked whether shipments to the stores are inadequate to meet demand, or whether there is a shortage in iPhone components leading to the lack of handsets on shelves, Mr. Dowling refused to give further specifics on the matter, saying "I’ll just leave it at my statement."

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[gary4gar]

Great, we still didn't have even a 4gb version here

[hailgautam]

you will never have the iphone in india. Indians are very price sensitive will never buy anything that is overpriced and this phone will never succeed in making the money here.

[sai_cool]

^that phone is crap.

the SE'S W960i is way better!

[BBThumbHealer]

Yesterday On MTV India , it was flashing that iPhone 2.0 is scheduled for a May 08 launch !

[ray|raven]

^Woah!

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by gary4gar

Great, we still didn't have even a 4gb version here

Well, it's been discontinued, so it won't ever come anyway.

Originally Posted by BBThumbHealer

Yesterday On MTV India , it was flashing that iPhone 2.0 is scheduled for a May 08 launch !

That's crap. Not happening.

Originally Posted by hailgautam

you will never have the iphone in india. Indians are very price sensitive will never buy anything that is overpriced and this phone will never succeed in making the money here.

You obviously haven't been to any of the markets where iPhones are being sold by the truckload in metropolitan cities. The vendors are making money hand over fist in the Heera Panna market in Mumbai. Check it out–it's a sight to behold. Even jewelry store owners have set up small corners in their shop just to sell iPhones. Go and ask in any mobile phone shop out there whether they have the iPhone. The answer: "Of course!" I knew that it was selling well in India but, trust me, I had no clue it was such a rage!

[DigitalDude]

Originally Posted by hailgautam

you will never have the iphone in india. Indians are very price sensitive will never buy anything that is overpriced and this phone will never succeed in making the money here.

FAIL!



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[gary4gar]

when can i buy iPhone offcially in India?

[DigitalDude]

Originally Posted by gary4gar

when can i buy iPhone offcially in India?

may be next year

I dont think they will bring anytime this year... ppl who wanted it really bad already have one.. unlocked

the rest are the junta like us who are not ready for it

also I dont know how they might work out a deal with the carriers here or might sell it unlocked in which case price will be very very high


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[aryayush]

Nowhere, as of today.

[x3060]

its not gonna come anytime soon . . one and half years is what i expect . .

[gary4gar]

I was interested in iPhone
chalo, No problems will look at other options.
can't wait for 18 months or so

[DigitalDude]

^^
dont worry sony xperia will come in the mean time..



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[BBThumbHealer]

Originally Posted by aryayush

That's crap. Not happening.

Acc. to me , it wasn't ! Lets see ..

[CadCrazy]

Indians will directly get 3G version version

[aryayush]

That's very unlikely.

Originally Posted by BBThumbHealer

Acc. to me , it wasn't ! Lets see ..

I'm not saying that you're wrong. You might have seen it on TV, no doubt.

I'm saying that even if the iPhone is coming in May '08 (and it isn't), MTV India has no way of knowing that it is. So the news itself is just based on hearsay and is, therefore, crap.

[ico]

Originally Posted by sai_cool

^that phone is crap.

the SE'S W960i is way better!

+100000 It also has handwriting recognition......

Walkman series pawns iPods and iPhone in sound quality and even definitely in Camera photo quality.....(I don't want to make this thread iPhone vs SE..)

But I'm also waiting for iPhone in India.....But there is one thing for sure, it is going to sell at the retail price fixed by Apple as iPods sell and its price is too not going to go down after some months like the prices of other newly launched phones go down.

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by gagandeep

+100000 It also has handwriting recognition......

Handwriting recognition is way too overrated. It's clumsy, slow and inaccurate. It's basically just a gimmick that looks good in the marketing materials but has little real world use.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

Walkman series pawns iPods and iPhone in sound quality

I have an iPhone and a Sony Ericsson W550i and the iPhone is definitely better. Even a non-audiophile like me can clearly tell the difference in sound quality between the two. The WALKMAN is louder though.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

and even definitely in Camera photo quality.....

Oh, I thought so too. The most boring feature of the iPhone, for me, was its camera. I know that phone cameras don't take decent pictures, so I didn't think it would either.

But boy, was I wrong. As long as there's light, the iPhone takes bloody fantastic pictures. Check this one out. I've seen pictures taken with the W800is and K750is. The iPhone is just plain better.

You'd have to actually use it, you know, before you go all judgmental on it.

[goobimama]

My friend had bought a SE W960i recently. And when I showed her my iPhone, (and I'm talking about the actual iPhone and not something else), she face fell. The W-whatever looked so crappy in comparison. Shaking the phone for changing tracks is only amusing for a minute or two. I love my iPhone!

And I hope the iPhoneV2 includes only something as crappy as 3G. I don't want mine to go obsolete in just a month

[ring_wraith]

Originally Posted by aryayush

I have an iPhone and a Sony Ericsson W550i and the iPhone is definitely better. Even a non-audiophile like me can clearly tell the difference in sound quality between the two. The WALKMAN is louder though.

You have got to be kidding me. Ordinarily, I don't bother to correct people when they think that the iPods are the pinnacle of Audio Fidelity, but a direct shot at Sony? No audio product from Apple, be it the iPhone or the iPods has Sound Quality that could possibly be considered good, leave alone beat the W series. I owned a w810i for a very long period of time, and having heard several MP3 players ranging from the iPod touch to a Creative Zen to the Shuffle, I can without a smidgen of doubt say that the w810i beats them all.

Know why? Because of a little thing known as the sound signature. Every company influences the sound of their DAPs based on what they think music should be. A signature, if you will. Sony's sound signature is famous in audiophile circles for being so cozily warm that it will make you want to listen to all your music again.

Au contraire, I have realized after having heard several iPods that the only sound signature they possess is harshness and muddiness. The iTouch is probably the worst of the lot when it comes to SQ, even the shuffle sounds a lot better. You can actually see tonal modality flying out the window, accompanied by transparency and clarity. Bass is replaced by what I can only describe as broken Bass and treble by mechanical sounds.

I made the huge mistake of buying a Creative Zen [giving in to the lure of a large screen and expandable memory], which actually has very nice music quality with an "upfront" kind of signature, but my w810i's warmth calls to me and I have decided to replace my player with one from the Sony Walkman line-up, which maintains that all-important signature, while significantly improving everything else. Not too surprisingly, my friend who owns a Nano admits that the Zen sounds better.

When it comes to audio, there are very few companies that can look Sony in the eye, and Apple is waaaaay at the bottom of that list.

[ico]

Originally Posted by aryayush

I have an iPhone and a Sony Ericsson W550i and the iPhone is definitely better. Even a non-audiophile like me can clearly tell the difference in sound quality between the two. The WALKMAN is louder though.

Didn't you get some other WALKMAN series phone to compare with iPhone??
W550i is definitely outdated now.(I don't know how good does it sound but considering the standards of SE Walkman phones in sound plyaback, I still feel it is better than iPhone) Talk about the present. You can't compare a current phone to some phone whose days have gone. It has Walkman player 1.0 and W960i is on Walkman player 3.0. I've a W890i and it indeed sounds way way better than my iPod Classic. (I don't know about the sound quality of iPhone though)

W960i has Track ID....It can recognize any song whose name/information you want to know while listening to radio or while in some public place...(Don't expect Hindi songs to be recognized.)

And yes, Handwriting recognition isn't that slow as you're thinking.....

Originally Posted by aryayush

You'd have to actually use it, you know, before you go all judgmental on it.

I agree on this...

iPhone does actually win in the video playback department but as far as Music playback and management is concerned W960i still wins.

iPhone does actually pawn W960i when we talk about the Interface.

Does iPhone has Flash and AutoFocus???......

Indeed sorry for making this W960i vs iPhone thread........

Personally, you can call me a Sony Ericsson fanboy...

And lastly, yet I feel iPhone is one of his own kind and innovative....

[Ecko]

I really wanna buy dat whatever ppl say just cause it has full HTMl Safari browser
Also future is touch screen
U can change it to way u like

I recently saw a video of UT FPS on iPhone

[DigitalDude]

^^^

ipod touch plays Quake 3 http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/05/q...ble-lan-party/


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[ring_wraith]

^^ Umm... okay. If I get an iPhone its going to be because of the interface. Certainly not because it plays Quake 3. It could play Crysis for all I cared.

[aryayush]

@ring_wraith,
I have no idea about music. Don't take my opinion seriously. It's just that–my uninformed opinion–and is prone to errors.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

Didn't you get some other WALKMAN series phone to compare with iPhone??
W550i is definitely outdated now.(I don't know how good does it sound but considering the standards of SE Walkman phones in sound plyaback, I still feel it is better than iPhone) Talk about the present. You can't compare a current phone to some phone whose days have gone. It has Walkman player 1.0 and W960i is on Walkman player 3.0. I've a W890i and it indeed sounds way way better than my iPod Classic. (I don't know about the sound quality of iPhone though)

Well, then, I haven't listened to any of those, so I can't comment on it.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

W960i has Track ID....It can recognize any song whose name/information you want to know while listening to radio or while in some public place...

It's a pretty useless feature but, FWIW, the iPhone has it too.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

And yes, Handwriting recognition isn't that slow as you're thinking.....

Oh, it definitely is much slower than the iPhone's keyboard. And I'm not saying that lightly. It's much slower.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

iPhone does actually win in the video playback department

Hands down.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

but as far as Music playback

This is debatable. Personally, I love my iPhone's audio quality. But to each his own.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

and management is concerned W960i still wins.

Oh c'mon. What are you talking about, man! Are we talking about the same iPhone? Full fledged high quality album art, sorting based on artists, albums, genres and composers, playlists, on-the-go playlist, compilations, lyrics, rating, auto synchronisation, the world's largest music store built right in and last, but certainly not the least, cover flow. And I might even have missed some features.

Are you still sure any other phone or music player in the world comes close to the iPhone/iPod touch when it comes to management features?

Originally Posted by gagandeep

iPhone does actually pawn W960i when we talk about the Interface.

Oh, big time, man, big time.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

Does iPhone has Flash and AutoFocus???......

No, and seeing how good the quality of the camera is without them, I now actually wish it had those. But then, a flash would make it thicker and I certainly don't want that.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

Indeed sorry for making this W960i vs iPhone thread........

As long as the discussion is civil, there's no harm in it.

Originally Posted by gagandeep

Personally, you can call me a Sony Ericsson fanboy...

Cheers to your spirit, man. We need more people like you around these parts. We should be frank about our choices and biases, not ashamed of them.

Originally Posted by ring_wraith

^^ Umm... okay. If I get an iPhone its going to be because of the interface. Certainly not because it plays Quake 3. It could play Crysis for all I cared.

I don't see what the big deal is either but it certainly seems to be a big ticket item. Even non-fanboys are psyched about this latest development.

[DigitalDude]

^^^

whoa dude... take a break... have a kit-kat..



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[gxsaurav]

Comon guys, that's arya u r talking to, obviously any & all Apple products are superior to anything else....

A camera in a mobile phone is also bad, who cares about convergence . Now if tomorrow Apple releses iphone 2.0 with 5 MP camera & auto focus then all of a sudden Arya's tone will change.....

relax boy, teri itni bhi waatt nahi lagayenge

[aryayush]

It's funny how if some Apple product receives negative reviews, some people on this forum will dig it out of anywhere on the Internet but when it gets positive reviews from even the most obviously unbiased sources (like AnandTech or GSMArena) on the Internet, they'll not only overlook them but will actually go to great lengths to rule out the advantages mentioned repeatedly in those interviews.

Here are some words about the iPhone I chanced upon on GSMArena today:

Love it or hate it, the iPhone has set the bar pretty high in terms of interface and user-friendliness and, almost six months after its launch now, the competition has not yet managed to fight back with a product likely to generate the same buzz.

Our hopes for a 3G-enabled Euro-iPhone went down the drain; the 2-megapixel camera has not changed either; official third-party application support will not be available before February 2008 and, finally, on the Old Continent the device will cost 1.4 times more (with the current exchange rate) than back in US. Why all the fuss then, you might ask. Actually, to get a feel of that, you must have held the handset in your hand and tried it for real. It's nothing like anything you've seen. Touch sensitive screens are nothing new, but Apple have created a unique user interface that reacts to your touch in an almost physical way.

And yet, when we have discussions about the uniqueness of the iPhone, the screen is often sidelined by these trolls as not being anything innovative because there are other phones with touchscreens in the market.

I don't know what brought this on, but I just had a compulsive urge to point this out. The iPhone's Multi-Touch screen is absolutely unparalleled and once you've used it, it really is hard to withhold yourself from buying it just because it let's go of a few standard features.

[iMav]

nokia 1100 is a fone that has torch as a feature, iphone is a music player with phone as a feature

yes i agree tht courtesy the iphone focus has shifted to touch interface and thts all it has done, there was 6600 at 1 time that revolutionized the fone market with converged devices being the in thing but iphone at the end of the day its a fone in 2007 that lacks a proper bluetooth, no vid rec, battery is not replaceable, an under-utilized processor ... now no matter what u say call this civil or un-civil to any person with little inclination to technology will say that these are stupid flaws which shouldnt have been there