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Old 16-03-2008, 07:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Blu-ray may have won, but Xbox Europe boss Chris Lewis reckons "shiny discs" will look as rubbish as boring old vinyl records and those hilarious Video Cassette Recorders before long. Lewis said, "Going forwards, digital downloads is really where it's at," . "More and more people's ongoing and ever-increasing downloading of music and movies is becoming the de facto. I think that's going to happen in very short order; people want to consume that way," he continued.

"Before very long we will look back wistfully at shiny discs as something that was somewhat a historic phenomenon in a way that we kind of think about vinyl or VCRs today." According to Lewis, the shift away from using discs to store media and towards using them as coasters will happen "sooner than any of us think". "That's the future direction, and I think that's going to be the case in the next 12-18 months," Lewis predicted. "I think we're going to be talking much more about that than anything else. Do I think that this Christmas will somehow be defined by DVD playback? I genuinely don't think that will be the case,"

What about the material impact of the demise of HD-DVD on your console velocity, Chris? "I do not think that [the demise of HD DVD] will have any material impact on our console velocity." "And I think other factors, specifically our architecture around downloads, is far more advantageous and important for the future. We are best placed to offer that, we already offer that, our online pedigree is such that we will offer the best and most seamless experience."


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Old 16-03-2008, 08:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The world does not have enough bandwidth to support mass downloading of 1080p HD movies... It's going to take a while for that to become a reality...
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why do these guys have to open their monkey holes as if they are nostradamus why cant they just shut up and do their work
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They obviously would not have been saying that if HD-DVD had won. Now that the format they chose to back has failed and was defeated by Blu-ray, they are saying that the future is in HD downloads. Grapes, indeed, are sour.
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aah..but what they have said is probably true to a certain xtent...but they seem to have declared it decades before when the impact is to be really seen..

btw..xbox live is great..have tried it and its awesum...Ps3 doesnt come close in terms of online content and support
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^^ not necessarily ... ther were a lot of rumored reports that MS was actually backing a "dieing format" (hd-dvd) to get time and push online dwnlds developments
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why do these guys have to open their monkey holes as if they are nostradamus why cant they just shut up and do their work
superbbbb !!! and i liked the nostradamus part

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They obviously would not have been saying that if HD-DVD had won. Now that the format they chose to back has failed and was defeated by Blu-ray, they are saying that the future is in HD downloads. Grapes, indeed, are sour.
true....

they said the same to google...
anybody rememebr...???
and they were wrong...

hope they stop preducting the future....
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Actually, that could be a reality soon enough. At least abroad.

In UK, a 2 Mega-byte per second unlimited comes for really cheap [less that 1000 INR per month] Therefore, 10 GB will take one and a half hours to download. Taking into consideration the bandwidth lost, it still clocks in at about two hours.

Compare that to the time it would take you to go to the store and actually buy it.

Besides, buying something online and downloading is going to be cheaper as well. You don't have to pay for the media.

Of course, here in India, assuming you have a regular 32 KBps connection, it would take you close to four days which is completely unfeasible.

Overall, the best solution to watch HD content in the UK is to have a HTPC with a 2MBps line connected to your 1080p HDTV.
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1080p rip 2GB? You crazy? 1080p is at least 8GB. Also, most people don't use that 2mbps+ connection to the max. If HD downloads become a norm, like in the case of AppleTV, then the internet will definitely choke up.

The concept of digital downloads is very interesting and something to look forward to. It will also get rid of all those plastic discs lying around. If in case you didn't realise, a Blu ray disc holds a 40GB 1080p movie. That is a high quality file with a lot of bitrate and lossless soundtracks. HD downloads are currently limited to mainly 720p and that too a not so great bandwidth (usually 5mbps or so)
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Correct me if m wrong but doesnt Europe have the fastest broadband connections for home use?

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what u playin these days? I just finished bioshck, after too much delay. But it ran fine on 1920x1200 ofcourse not as smooth as on 1280x800

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1080p HD videos are usually useless, u need at least a 42" TV to view it properly. 720p Videos are good enough for most of the people.

I for once, will never download a 1080p video no matter what. My Monitor goes upto 1280X1024 so why download 1080p

720p DivX/Xvid Video usually come in 2 GB which have high quality with MP3 Audio or X.264 rips with H.263 Audio for PCs
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^^^the xbox 360 is meant to be used with television sets..so when microsoft means online downloads..it should mean that they will be viewed on high resolution plasma tvs..and 1080p is a standard for 40+ inch plasma tvs..who would use the xbox for viewing content on the pc screen ?
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@gx_saurav, u talking about a 45 min video?
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@naveen: Nice siggy! I'm waiting till I can play Crysis at full settings (1920*1200) at an affordable price...!

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1080p rip 2GB? You crazy? 1080p is at least 8GB. Also, most people don't use that 2mbps+ connection to the max. If HD downloads become a norm, like in the case of AppleTV, then the internet will definitely choke up.

The concept of digital downloads is very interesting and something to look forward to. It will also get rid of all those plastic discs lying around. If in case you didn't realise, a Blu ray disc holds a 40GB 1080p movie. That is a high quality file with a lot of bitrate and lossless soundtracks. HD downloads are currently limited to mainly 720p and that too a not so great bandwidth (usually 5mbps or so)
dont forgot we need Hard disk in Tera byte.... 2x500 GB

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1080p HD videos are usually useless, u need at least a 42" TV to view it properly. 720p Videos are good enough for most of the people.

I for once, will never download a 1080p video no matter what. My Monitor goes upto 1280X1024 so why download 1080p

720p DivX/Xvid Video usually come in 2 GB which have high quality with MP3 Audio or X.264 rips with H.263 Audio for PCs
true....

do u have any black borderrs?? or full screen???
i am getting black borders... but my download are not 720p ... they are Xvid`s .. i mean most are @xx0`s .....
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@wideboy: Just about everything

720p ~ 2GB. ROFL!

@naveen: Of course there will be black borders! Even a 16:9 HDTV will have black borders cause most movies are those theatre wide aspect ratio 2.35:1 or something. Of course, with Media Player classic's zoom feature, you can curb down those black borders if need be.
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is there a way to remove them.. ??

it really irritating....

having a big screen and not able to watch to ful glory is really horrible...
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On topic...........Sour grapes, that's all. They wouldn't have said the same thing if HD DVD won the format war.
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I was just giving an example that for computer playback only, DivX & xVid 720p videos are good enough for the mazority of users
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Computer playback? You do realise this thread is about the XBOX dude talking rubbish eh? Xbox is generally connected to a large screen TV where HD makes all the difference.

@naveen_reloaded: In VLC, press C to crop video to predifined sizes. In Media Player Classic, I enable the number lock on the keypad and press 9 to zoom into the video.
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Have they completely forgotten the concept of what is called Backup ?
I literally use WD 1 TB Essential Edition USB 2.0 Drive for my backups.
Common you just cannot download 4.5 GB or 8 GB of content to watch a movie again sometime later. You gotta back them somewhere.

Microsoft is jealous of Sony's victory that shows it all.
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^^ I think with a free flowing 8mbps connection, downloading the movie again is quite possible. They are doing it after all with the AppleTV...
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this is just trash talk after loosing.
who the hell said downloads can destroy a media ?
I for example, still need DVDs inspite of everything being available online.
even for 1080p or 720p rips, I need media to store them in.
and BDs play a huge part there.
even with the 720p or 1080p AoTuV b5 vorbis + VP7 videos in MKV that I download, I reserve a DVD per movie, as each is ~3-4 gb.

infact, I have indirectly replaced Blu Ray DVDs and DVD-Video discs with GE-DVD(Gautham's Enhanced DVD) which uses MKV format for video with menus, VP7 or x264 codec for video and MusePack or AoTuV Beta5 for audio. And soon it will evolve to GEBD(gautham's enhanced blu ray disc)
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since HD is history , blu ray rules and its all about the storage ..i dont know what MS is thinking.maybe they gonna bring VHS back
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@Gautham
too true...
we still needs media to store our data!!
and we are needing larger and larger storage as the days go on!!!

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this is just trash talk after loosing.
who the hell said downloads can destroy a media ?
I for example, still need DVDs inspite of everything being available online.
even for 1080p or 720p rips, I need media to store them in.
and BDs play a huge part there.
even with the 720p or 1080p AoTuV b5 vorbis + VP7 videos in MKV that I download, I reserve a DVD per movie, as each is ~3-4 gb.

infact, I have indirectly replaced Blu Ray DVDs and DVD-Video discs with GE-DVD(Gautham's Enhanced DVD) which uses MKV format for video with menus, VP7 or x264 codec for video and MusePack or AoTuV Beta5 for audio. And soon it will evolve to GEBD(gautham's enhanced blu ray disc)
Didn't you get it? Internet will be so fast and cheap, that you won't mind downloading the movie again. Sort of like a streaming thing. It's already happening. Burning those downloaded movies and saving them is just another chore that most don't want to do.
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Didn't you get it? Internet will be so fast and cheap, that you won't mind downloading the movie again. Sort of like a streaming thing. It's already happening. Burning those downloaded movies and saving them is just another chore that most don't want to do.
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