Cutting Prices Won't Save Windows Vista

CadCrazy · 15-03-2008, 12:57 AM

Microsoft's recent announcement of a price cut for Windows Vista illustrates the desperate position the company is in. By all reasonable accounts Vista has failed and Microsoft is desperately trying to prop it up and put some lipstick on a very nasty and very flawed pig. Unfortunately, it won't work. Microsoft plans to cut prices is as confusing as its release of multiple version of the failed OS.

In the United States, Microsoft will reduce prices for Windows Vista Ultimate, the company's top-end operating system, to $319 from $399 for the full version and cut the price for an "upgrade" version to $219 from $259 for consumers who already run Windows XP or another edition of Vista.
It also cut prices for upgrade versions of Vista Home Premium, its mainstream product, to $129 from $159. The price cuts vary by country.
In emerging markets, Microsoft will stop selling "upgrade" versions of Vista, because, for many customers, it will be the first purchase of a genuine copy of Windows. The company will instead sell Vista Home Premium and Home Basic, a stripped-down version, at the upgrade prices.

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ravi_9793 · 15-03-2008, 01:07 AM

100 million units of Windows Vista already sold in only 14 months. What more you want!!!

But I do agree that windows XP is biggest rival of windows vista. But situation going to change after vista SP1.

debsuvra · 15-03-2008, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ravi_9793

100 million units of Windows Vista already sold in only 14 months. What more you want!!!

But I do agree that windows XP is biggest rival of windows vista. But situation going to change after vista SP1.

Me too agree that Vista is getting better after the release of SP1 as I experienced some performance increase with the SP1 RTM on my machine. Windows XP SP3 is coming after a great gap and it should have came before. Though XP was a great OS to work with and perhaps the most successful one too in the history.

Kiran.dks · 15-03-2008, 07:01 AM

Same old story repeated again, again and again in almost all threads. Stop it guys. Vista isn't a failure. It has surpassed expectation in sales.

iMav · 15-03-2008, 07:13 AM

^^ welcome to http://www.think-anti-MS.com/forum

Gigacore · 15-03-2008, 07:30 AM

^

Guys vista sucks, but not its sales

Faun · 15-03-2008, 08:12 AM

yawn, alas price cut is a welcome gesture

CadCrazy · 15-03-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ravi_9793

100 million units of Windows Vista already sold in only 14 months. What more you want!!!

But I do agree that windows XP is biggest rival of windows vista. But situation going to change after vista SP1.

And main reason for it is OEM's selling their system with vista only.Give them choice and count the no. of units then

. You should conduct a survey to find how many out of 100 millions actually using it right now

Also Sp1 is mainly game centric.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMav

^^ welcome to http://www.think-anti-MS.com/forum

You better visit www.FaceTheReality.com

NucleusKore · 15-03-2008, 08:45 AM

I'm not here to argue whether Vista is a failure or not

Microsoft dropped the prices pretty quickly didn't they. I wonder how all those who were the first to buy or upgrade are feeling.

The position of customers who bought Vista Ready PCs is even worse; they must be feeling miserable. A class action suit has been filed only in the US, what about other countries?

And Intel, well, they should not have colluded with Microsoft on this Vista Ready thing.

At the end of the day, as said in the article, customers will take another hard look at windows and the alternatives. They will also realise there is an alternative to Intel processors, AMD and Cyrix.

It's good for competition, and finally customer will be king.

infra_red_dude · 15-03-2008, 08:53 AM

IMO, OEMs are not the only reason for sale of Vista. Even hardware manufacturers are. I've had a tuff time getting some hardware work in XP and hence had to go with Vista.

speedyguy · 15-03-2008, 09:27 AM

wit vista they say...ts time 2 say good bye to 16bit app...so vista doesnt support it....wat if i wanna use....i bought lappy fr my coding purpose whr i needed dos but ts not supported....

blv it or not...saleof vista is backboned by xp only.....wit success of xp ppl thot vista is further improved version of xp from ms....i personally found 8 out of 10 ppl saying they done mistake by gettin vista....

it does hv benifits but wat sort.....

looks n appearance - get xp n vista theme

better details abt file transfer etc....agree...hope xp also has alternative

security...agree....better than xp but dun think ts safest.....m a net freak...already formatted my system 3 times in last 5mnths due 2 heavy intrusion of spywares...

now fr drawbacks-

it sells d system resources....my 1gb ram is alwez 60+ % consumed wit no work....

hv to run around places to get compatible programs....16 bit....forget it.....1 happening thing....since 16bit not supported so 2 get cpp coding i downloded borland for windows 300mb...it sed it need framework (some version) to b installed....i downloaded it 50 mb...it sed ts not supported by os....grrrrrrr!!!

slowwwwww.....

m soon planning 2 get rid of vista n go for xp n linux combo

Enjoy~!

**MetalheadGautham** · 15-03-2008, 10:00 AM

I compare vista with phenom. both hopeless compared to competition.
hope to see next $indow$ look better.
I know for sure that phenom, with its architectural advantages, will become fine when B3 stepping, re-black edition launching, andsome manufacturing economics are taken care of.
But $indow$ is even architecturally bad.
M$ must do an apple and ditch Windows NT for Windows UT.

ravi_9793 · 15-03-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CadCrazy

And main reason for it is OEM's selling their system with vista only.

Because OEMs want to give best computing experience to their customers.

CadCrazy · 15-03-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ravi_9793

Because OEMs want to give best computing experience to their customers.

ROFL. Best computing Experience

praka123 · 15-03-2008, 10:35 AM

HEHE!@ravi is joking.his posts are satire.he too hates vi$ta.

CadCrazy · 15-03-2008, 10:46 AM

Parkash you should give vista a try to get best computing experience. I can gift you free DVD if you want

casanova · 15-03-2008, 10:52 AM

People just don't want to shift. What happened when Win XP had launched. People said its bad and were using Win 98. The same is happening with Win Vista. It will get its fair share.

ravi_9793 · 15-03-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by casanova

People just don't want to shift. What happened when Win XP had launched. People said its bad and were using Win 98. The same is happening with Win Vista. It will get its fair share.

101% true.

gxsaurav · 15-03-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NucleusKore

Microsoft dropped the prices pretty quickly didn't they.

It's been 1.5 years Vista was released, it is not quick to reduce prices.

FilledVoid · 15-03-2008, 11:37 AM

Considering the way Microsoft has improved on its released Operating Systems. I wouldn't be surprised if they conjure something up to fix most of the problems in it. As I have said before XP before SP2 pretty much sucked. I don't expect anything different from Microsoft this time. But I'm pretty sure that out of one hundred million alot of it got sold based on its brand strength rather than product quality . And if they don't get their act right the next product whatever it is going to be isn't going to sell like hot cakes in the market.

napster007 · 15-03-2008, 11:53 AM

i agree that vista takes up a lot of system resources but the OS is ment for a bit high graded systems. The world will slowly shift to the new hardware and then everyone will be using vista. If you talk about stability ppl used to think that 98 was the most stable OS ever made(it is) but now xp has proved to be as stable.

Time is what Vista needs. Give it some time

narangz · 15-03-2008, 12:33 PM

I had decided not to post in OS related threads coz of wat goes on in them

But this time I just couldn't resist. So here I go:

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Originally Posted by Gigacore

^

Guys vista sucks, but not its sales

Vista doesn't suck

. I 've 1GB RAM, AMD 64 X2 3800+ & Nvidia 6150 onboard graphics. It runs fine. Never had a BSoD. Actually I forced a BSoD once with a really messed up driver.

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Originally Posted by CadCrazy

And main reason for it is OEM's selling their system with vista only.Give them choice and count the no. of units then

. You should conduct a survey to find how many out of 100 millions actually using it right now

Also Sp1 is mainly game centric.

OEM sales only? You forgot corporate sales! I myself removed Vista on my laptop & installed XP. But I came back to Vista. It's my primary OS on both laptop & desktop.

SP1 is not just for gamers! It fixes most of the issues like speed etc.

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Originally Posted by NucleusKore

I'm not here to argue whether Vista is a failure or not

Microsoft dropped the prices pretty quickly didn't they. I wonder how all those who were the first to buy or upgrade are feeling.

The position of customers who bought Vista Ready PCs is even worse; they must be feeling miserable. A class action suit has been filed only in the US, what about other countries?

It was not that quick. It took more than a year to drop the prices. Take an example. You bought N95 in a week's time after it's release & after six months where's the price going?

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Originally Posted by infra_red_dude

IMO, OEMs are not the only reason for sale of Vista. Even hardware manufacturers are. I've had a tuff time getting some hardware work in XP and hence had to go with Vista.

True. But I managed to find all the drivers for my hardware. XP ran fine. But I shifted back to Vista. IMO Vista is more stable. I never had to reset my computer with Vista running!

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Originally Posted by speedyguy

it does hv benifits but wat sort.....

looks n appearance - get xp n vista theme

better details abt file transfer etc....agree...hope xp also has alternative

security...agree....better than xp but dun think ts safest.....m a net freak...already formatted my system 3 times in last 5mnths due 2 heavy intrusion of spywares...

now fr drawbacks-

it sells d system resources....my 1gb ram is alwez 60+ % consumed wit no work....

slowwwwww.....

1. Vista is installed on my computer for the last six months, atleast. I never got infected! There's no virus, spyware or any kind of malware. I use Windows Defender+Windows Firewall+Norton Antivirus 2007. Vista runs fine with all these turned on on my above mentioned configuration.

2. Vista is not for computers of the Windows 98/Me era. It utilises RAM to the best. Memory is not wasted just to show it as free. You need to read about that to understand it

. I agree it requires atleast 1GB of RAM to run smoothly. 1GB of RAM(DDR 2-667) costs just 800-900 Bucks these days.

naveen_reloaded · 15-03-2008, 12:36 PM

i dont think vista will go down... actually it way better.. many are hard coded...

give few more months .. vista will beat XP...

xp .. is awesome no doubt .. but vista is better than xp.... in many ways...

CadCrazy · 15-03-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by narangz

IMO Vista is more stable. I never had to reset my computer with Vista running!

Lol

naveen_reloaded · 15-03-2008, 01:26 PM

^^^ y buddy???

even i hadnt had restart ??

ravi_9793 · 15-03-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CadCrazy

Lol

U really need to have Vista experience. All vista user are well satisfied.

gxsaurav · 15-03-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by speedyguy

wit vista they say...ts time 2 say good bye to 16bit app...so vista doesnt support it....wat if i wanna use....i bought lappy fr my coding purpose whr i needed dos but ts not supported....

Vista has full & proper support for 16bit apps.

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it sells d system resources....my 1gb ram is alwez 60+ % consumed wit no work....

Instead of sitting Idle, the RAM is being used for caching purpose.