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Old 11-02-2008, 12:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Windows Vista SP1 Slipstreaming Mess!


Remember all those slipstreaming tutorials you could find on the Internet? I think we had one or two for Windows XP here on Neowin.net before some data on our servers was wiped due to a run-in with Microsoft; we also lost the Windows Server 2003 as a Workstation guide that way.

Anyway, generally speaking, any self proclaimed geek of the households first duty after the release of a Service Pack for Windows, was to update the original image with the slipstreamed version that made it possible to clean install a PC directly to the latest Service Pack.

That whole process just got a whole lot more tricky!

"Can I slipstream Windows Vista SP1 into an existing install image?"
Nope. Well, not directly, anyway.

"Um.. but when I get SP1, I want to upgrade my deployable .WIM images with the new bits. I can't do that in an offline way like I can with other updates?"
Sorry. No.

"Are you going to tell me why?"
Absolutely! You don't think I would have opened up this nasty can of worms without giving you a good explanation, did you?

"Well..."
Okay. So here's the deal. And those of you who have experienced the SP1 installation have experienced this as well. When you do the SP1 installation, even if it's from Windows Update (when available), you're going to see your machine shutdown and restart on it's own several times. That's to be expected. See, there's this important part of the OS known as the "servicing layer" in Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008. This is the part of the OS that allows for easy update installation with minimal disruptions, allows for an update to be applied to an offline captured image that's within a .wim file, among other things. Well... let's say that that servicing layer ALSO needed to be updated? What then?

"Oh.. I get it. You can't update the thing that makes the updates happen smoothly, because the thing that makes updates go smoothly is itself being updated!"
Bingo. You got it. So hopefully the news that you can't just do an offline upgrade to an image .WIM file won't be too tragic.

"So.. what do I do instead?"
You are going to have to install your image to a machine. Install the Service Pack. Then re-capture the image.

"Simple!"
Not so simple. There are additional steps that involve some cleanup once you've sysprepped your newly updated SP1 machine. Detailed steps are available in the new WAIK documentation.

"Won't I lose a valuable re-arm to my image when I apply the service pack this way?"
No. SP1 grants you an additional re-arm. We don't want you to be penalized for having to generalize a system that additional time.

"Wait... there's a new WAIK?"
If you're using the WAIK (Windows Automated Installation Kit), you will definitely want to get the new version that has support for both the original Vista as well as the new servicing layer that's in both Windows Vista SP1 and Windows Server 2008.

Of course, the easiest way to do this all would be to get a copy pre-slipstreamed SP1 version of Windows Vista from Microsoft when it becomes available, and start with that as your new installation base. If you're not doing any other custom image management, that's definitely the easiest solution. Just add it to your own Microsoft Deployment workbench or use it to build your new images from there.

Thanks to Avi for posting this article in our Back Page News section of the forums.

On other notes, Microsoft made its own slipstreamed image available to its MVLS partners!

http://neowin.net/news/main/08/02/10...streaming-mess
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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@soumya..you are very good at collecting news for windows 7, vista & xp..keep it up
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The slipstreamed ISO has been "available" since quite sometime now
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I feel since nLite made XP very open to custom updates and others, Microsoft is trying to close down Vista so that third party component such as vLite is prevented from making Vista customizable.I do not know for what specific reason would one want to do that.Last year also they stopped a very good tool for administrators, Auto Patcher which enabled System Administrators less dependent on WSUS and Windows Update.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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they haven't completely locked down vista from sp splitstreaming, but its only this SP1 which is not having the splitstream switch.
rumors say that sp2 is gonna have the splitstream switch.

And also, its partly due to the new imaging format. btw, a lot might change once waik for sp1 is released.
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