Windows 7 (Seven) M1 post-install details leaked?

[soumya]

I noticed over at Long Zhengs website that he has decided to post about the supposedly leaked post install details and analysis of Windows Seven M1 (Mile Stone 1).

“Kenipnet”, a Neowin member reported that he had been given the Alpha, otherwise known as a developer build for testing and then made a detailed post about it which he later deleted. Luckily I was all over that forum thread and managed to salvage his deleted claims from my Firefox browser cache and repost as my own (thus preserving the post for prosperity).

I sent a private message to “kenipnet” asking if he could backup his claims with a screenshot or other means, his response indicated that he was unsure how he could make any evidence available to me online, so I decided to keep it with the forum thread instead of main page news.

I suppose the laughable thing about all this is that the build is described as "Windows 7 Milestone 1 Build 6.1.6519.1" umm, excuse me? Build 6.1.6519.1?
OK, Windows Seven is supposed to have this brand new MinWin kernel which is version 7.0, not 6.0 (Windows Vista) or 6.1 (Windows Server 2008) as this member UAC points out in his forum posting on that thread it is most likely fake as are the screenshots which you can find in that thread (there are several).

Anyway our friend kenipnet appears to be credible about all of his other posts on Neowin regarding past betas, so maybe we shouldn't be too quick to denounce his findings even if he failed to offer any proof in the form of a desktop screenshot. Below are his findings, take it with a pinch of salt mind!

Over the weekend I finally managed to play with the build…. but disappointed.

One my primary machine, it asked for my SATA driver (never happened when installing Vista, as my drives were set as IDE in BIOS). After adding the driver from my USB thumb drive it would finally install. It didn’t boot after first restart, however.

On my laptop it installed perfectly, but with no driver support for the video card. After numerous tries I gave up in the end, so Aero is now left in the dark.

Oh well, so there’s nothing to show.

The build is 6.1.6519.

The GUI, as much of you have guessed, is very much like Vista. I don’t know if once the right video card driver is in place whether there will be flashy stuffs to surprise me. The system is very responsive, using barely 480MB of memory after boot.

Gadgets are now integrated into explorer. You can right click on desktop and select “Add Gadget” or “Hide Gadget”. There is a new gadget called “Windows Media Center” that displays now playing information from the WMC. On the same menu, “Display” is added above “Personalization” which gives you direct access to display DPI settings. The page is much more polished than the one in Vista.

The start menu features a pin besides each item. Clicking on it toggles pinning/unpinning the item. Search in explorer is now states where you search within (usually being within the folder, as in Vista). You can now, however, adjust the size of the search box.

XAML fonts, called the “Composite Fonts” are now added to the font folder. Perhaps WPF will be much more prominent in this release. It’s disappointing that I don’t have Aero running, or otherwise there might be some interesting stuffs to see.

A new application is added, dubbed the “XPS Viewer”, no surprises, either.

Then finally, something interesting came up: the feedback tool. The feedback tool lists the “pillars” of Win 7. You can see that Microsoft is aiming to fine tune this release as the case in XP rather than technological advancement as in 2K. highlights include”network aware”, with improved connection tools and detections. It will have the ability to detect which network you’re in and switch your settings and devices accordingly; With Live account, you can carry your IE settings and favorites with you; Gadget data caching; New Calculator, Paint, and Wordpad using WPF; install to desktop in 10 mins with only 1 reboot; instant streaming; better battery mileage, etc. All descriptions are scenario-based, so what will actually turn up is still yet to know.

Oh.. how could I miss this. A new boot screen does show up, finally. A full screen Vista-logon screen like boot screen with a beam scrolling across the whole screen near the bottom. Looks nice but reminds me of Win9x (well since XP we’ve been in the “dark”, so surprised to see such a bright boot screen)!


Link: Windows 7 M1 is here! (Neowin Forum Thread)

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...details-leaked

[shantanu]

ummm ! thats Bull S ,Nothing like windows 7 M1 is out, and i am damn sure about that. the person is lying.

[shashank_re]

^^ I agree with you.
MS must be very busy programming Vista SP1 and XP SP3

^^ correct i agree too

[QwertyManiac]

Leave this speculation, check this one instead, hot off my feeds:
http://apcmag.com/7874/windows_7_to_...ased_next_year

A recently-release roadmap for the next major Window release – Windows 7 – indicates that Microsoft is planning to release the new operating system in the second half of 2009, rather than the anticipated release date of some time in 2010.

They claim its in late 2009, but are not giving in a link. But APC Mag is quite a reliable source, mostly. So, a 3 year cycle?

[alsiladka]

I believe there actually is substance in the story. The first longhorn builds were out for testing withing an year of XPs release, around 2002 times.

Its been more than an year since Vista has been released. What is so unbelievable in this?

[New]

Thanks for the info...If they release it in 2009 Vista is going to become a big flop..

[hahahari]

Ok let me add an info abt the new OS.....there is no gui ready yet, its just the basic command line which they are using to test the JUICE of the OS. It is supposedly not as buggy as Vista.

[anandk]

Yes, its FUD.

And the apcmag article is raising more questions than it is answering!

[naveen_reloaded]

Whatever something is coming out na?
Hope we see ms back on track with this release...

[alsiladka]

I've gotten a lot of email about a TG Daily (whatever that is) story stating that Windows 7, the successor to Windows Vista, would ship in late 2009, much earlier than predicted. People are curious if I know anything about this (I don't) and whether my silence on the topic is the result of an NDA or something (it isn't). Let me clear the air a bit.
First, the claim:

A very early version of Windows 7, previously code-named Blackcomb Vienna, already has been shipped to “key partners” as a “Milestone 1” (M1) code drop for validation purposes. A roadmap received by TG Daily indicates that the new operating system will be introduced in the second half of 2009.

Unless something has changed, Microsoft hasn't used the codenames "Blackcomb" or "Vienna" for quite some time now. This product is internally referred to as "7" or "Windows 7," and there is indeed a handbook called "Shipping 7" that I've heard quite a bit about.

Now, that doesn't mean Microsoft hasn't shipped an early build of 7 to partners. This would, of course, really be a version of Windows Vista with some "7" technologies retrofitted onto it, standard practice dating back as far as the early Windows 4.0 beta (which became Windows 95). So that part makes sense, though I can't verify it.

Regarding late 2009, come on. I'd be surprised to see it happen that early, personally, though maybe Sinofsky's management style will be enough to get the Windows Division to move quickly for a change. I have a lot of friends in Windows as you might imagine, but Sinofsky is not one of them. I've heard directly that he is doing everything he can to keep early Windows 7 info internal and, more specifically, away from me. But if Windows 7 does ship in late 2009, it will be because it is a fairly minor release that builds on, not replaces, Vista. It won't be a major architectural change like Vista. In other words, it will be Vista R2. This, if you know Sinofsky's style, is pretty much the way he does things. (Exception: Office 2007, though that product benefited from Vista's many delays.)


My guess, and it's only a guess, is that we'll get some very early Windows 7 hints at WinHEC this year, and then PDC (October) will be the big announcement, as it was with Vista. However, Microsoft should be more realistic about what it can deliver, and when, this time around.
Related: Almost certainly bogus information from someone who's claimed to install the Windows 7 "M1" build.

From - Paul's Blog

He is a reliable guy on MS.

[shantanu]

let me tell ya one thing buddies, still there is no M1 or even M0 of windows 7 from Microsoft.. ! there are People who play.. but this isnt any news..

[The Outsider]

I guess its too early to believe anyone on the matter of vista's successor.

[alsiladka]

Why cant there be a M1 release guys? Vista is already more than an year old. According to MS's release cycles, there should already have been atleast one release out.

As pointed out by Paul, it would most definitely be something over and above Vista only for now.

[gxsaurav]

Originally Posted by alsiladka

Why cant there be a M1 release guys? Vista is already more than an year old. According to MS's release cycles, there should already have been atleast one release out.

The only thing known about Windows 7 is

1) It will be based upon teh MinWin kernel

2) it will be Windows Vista R2, Vista polished & optimised from the inside.

3) Right now the UI is 99% like Vista

These facts are obvious & publically known

[alsiladka]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

The only thing known about Windows 7 is

1) It will be based upon teh MinWin kernel

2) it will be Windows Vista R2, Vista polished & optimised from the inside.

3) Right now the UI is 99% like Vista

These facts are obvious & publically known

Thats what, these things are public. We already know that MinWin kernel has been in work for a long time. They would definitely want to put it to test in a real windows workspace.
These points just help further the argument that a build is atleast cetainly out.

[lywyre]

You guys remember Me, the hype MS created for it and what it turned out to be? I can't help it, but I have a feeling for long that Vista is turning out to be Me II.

[alsiladka]

Originally Posted by lywyre

You guys remember Me, the hype MS created for it and what it turned out to be? I can't help it, but I have a feeling for long that Vista is turning out to be Me II.

ME flopped because of its problems. It was hell buggy and AFAIK, it had hardware and software compatibility issues.
You definetily cant say the same for Vista.

[hahahari]

Right now the UI is 99% like Vista

Thats because they have just used the old one, they will be modifying it, And btw they mainly use command line only and this 99% thing is kinda a bluf as they have done nothing new.

[casanova]

Thanks MVPs, for the info.