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"Does a Porsche outsell Honda?" - Apple Year-End Report Card: A
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Somewhere between 2006 and today, I stopped considering Apple an underdog. And I'm not just talking about their iPod numbers nor am I talking about their nowhere-close-to-Windows marketshare. I mean, screw marketshare, really: Does Porsche outsell Honda? Apple busted out some serious products like the iPhone and iPods and made aggressive growth in their notebook lines. That's not to say they had it easy. But I think all in all, Apple deserves a solid A for their products and excellent damage control.
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Apple - The Perfect Package
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Does Porsche outsell Honda?
Does Mac outsell Windows?
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Just wanted to add:
Does Linux outnumber Windows?
Anyway, jokes apart, there is one main reason apple can never become a leader or get widely accepted, along with linux, solaris and BSD: Microsoft literally tries to control the market here. They, with a huge market share, try to blackmail, bribe, and force people into accepting windows. Also, now that they are popular, they are sensing danger, because while they controlled the X-Generation(today's 19 year old guy's parents), they are trying dirty tricks when the Y generation(the 19 year old's peers) is moving away from windows, rediscovering Mac, Linux, etc.
And another reason why apple is NOT accepted widely is because of their habbit of cashing in from every opportunity. Look at the world: a PC keyboard + mouse costs under Rs. 650. But with Mac, the cost factor is like over 4K.
Yes, Mac is truely an over-priced Porsche here, and Microsoft is like an Ambassador.
We can only hope, that soon people can start to learn how to use the Reva(linux) for regular use and use the Porsche for its classy value.
Apple derives its success from the following tools:
1. Embrace the ACE Technique
Their idea of adopting those standards that are better than others is paying off. They chose to adopt AAC as the default sound codec, instead of using mp3, or trying to create an own standard like microsoft. They also choose to adopt the UNIX architecture instead of windows.
2. Cash in on the already existing
They see already existing stuff, take them, and just put their efforts in customising them, and lo, they have a new candy. Konqueror becomes Safari. MP4 audio becomes m4a AAC. FreeBSD becomes Darwin. This is just a small example of how they don't waste time to create new stuff, but build on existing ones to make it better, atleast to their preception.
3. Do nothing new, but rather, whats not there but wanted
They made the iPod: it was not something like a novel idea, but its need was already felt, and they just fullfilled it. The iPhone is another example. They heard people asking for the perfect PDA, and they made it.
4. The Eye creates a want for things
All their stuff is just plain eye-candy. Atleast when it comes to n00bs, they may even go for something just because of the visual factor, instead of the functionality. Many n00bs exist, and so the richer among them become extra customers for apple.
5. Organise stuff in your domain
everything in apple intergrates just too well. all their software look similar and have similar defaults, the hardware matches with the software, etc. They also name their stuff properly so as to go with one another.
6. Package stuff well
everything they create is just very well packaged. Take the iLife for example. It comes with the MacMini, clearly something that casual users first buy. They are shown a piece of brilliant but easy to use and good for casuals software, and they immidiately get hoocked up to apple.
Conclution:
Steve Jobs needs to be seriously congratulated, for he used plain common sence, and brilliant thinking combined together, to produce the ultimate package. These clever and cunning ideas may be simple, but it took a newton to question the fall of the Apple(pun intended). Three chears for steve jobs.
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The way he standardised the machines apple manufactured with a regular release interval as well as an upgrade interval ensured that the Macs behaved just like Gaming Consoles - with standards that software and game designers could follow expecting perfection in their product. Another good thing about Jobs.
PS: some parts intentionally made difficult to read to help reduce offenciveness to some people.
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Re: "Does a Porche outsell Honda?" - Apple Year-End Report Card: A
Yep Apple deserves a pat on the back.
@Gautham, Reva for Linux? WTF dude?!
I was thinking more in terms of a rocket ship
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@Gautham, Reva for Linux? WTF dude?!
I was thinking more in terms of a rocket ship 
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Re: "Does a Porche outsell Honda?" - Apple Year-End Report Card: A
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Re: "Does a Porche outsell Honda?" - Apple Year-End Report Card: A
Yeah Apple deserves credit after the IPod touch release its one of the apples marvelous creation who has revolutionize the portable music player era by bringing Web applications into its ipod update.
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gizmodo is a bunch of apple fans nothing else... Engadget is the best (even they were diehard apple fans but are now changing )
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Yeah Apple deserves credit after the IPod touch release its one of the apples marvelous creation who has revolutionize the portable music player era by bringing Web applications into its ipod update.
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revolutionary? I guess you didn't read my post.., or Mr. Jobs did a rather good job on you too. bless him
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Apple may not be the ruler of the market share. I don't think it ever will as well. But there are more and more 'switchers' these days. And switchers generally don't switch back. So what I'm trying to say is, corporates and businesses may still have PCs as their preferred choice (Not necessarily Windows, but PCs) due to tech support and cheap machines, but professionals and businessmen, home users increasingly going in for the Mac platform...
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Just wanted to add:
Does Linux outnumber Windows?
Anyway, jokes apart, there is one main reason apple can never become a leader or get widely accepted, along with linux, solaris and BSD: Microsoft literally tries to control the market here. They, with a huge market share, try to blackmail, bribe, and force people into accepting windows. Also, now that they are popular, they are sensing danger, because while they controlled the X-Generation(today's 19 year old guy's parents), they are trying dirty tricks when the Y generation(the 19 year old's peers) is moving away from windows, rediscovering Mac, Linux, etc.
And another reason why apple is NOT accepted widely is because of their habbit of cashing in from every opportunity. Look at the world: a PC keyboard + mouse costs under Rs. 650. But with Mac, the cost factor is like over 4K.
Yes, Mac is truely an over-priced Porsche here, and Microsoft is like an Ambassador.
We can only hope, that soon people can start to learn how to use the Reva(linux) for regular use and use the Porsche for its classy value.
Apple derives its success from the following tools:
1. Embrace the ACE Technique
Their idea of adopting those standards that are better than others is paying off. They chose to adopt AAC as the default sound codec, instead of using mp3, or trying to create an own standard like microsoft. They also choose to adopt the UNIX architecture instead of windows.
2. Cash in on the already existing
They see already existing stuff, take them, and just put their efforts in customising them, and lo, they have a new candy. Konqueror becomes Safari. MP4 audio becomes m4a AAC. FreeBSD becomes Darwin. This is just a small example of how they don't waste time to create new stuff, but build on existing ones to make it better, atleast to their preception.
3. Do nothing new, but rather, whats not there but wanted
They made the iPod: it was not something like a novel idea, but its need was already felt, and they just fullfilled it. The iPhone is another example. They heard people asking for the perfect PDA, and they made it.
4. The Eye creates a want for things
All their stuff is just plain eye-candy. Atleast when it comes to n00bs, they may even go for something just because of the visual factor, instead of the functionality. Many n00bs exist, and so the richer among them become extra customers for apple.
5. Organise stuff in your domain
everything in apple intergrates just too well. all their software look similar and have similar defaults, the hardware matches with the software, etc. They also name their stuff properly so as to go with one another.
6. Package stuff well
everything they create is just very well packaged. Take the iLife for example. It comes with the MacMini, clearly something that casual users first buy. They are shown a piece of brilliant but easy to use and good for casuals software, and they immidiately get hoocked up to apple.
Conclution:
Steve Jobs needs to be seriously congratulated, for he used plain common sence, and brilliant thinking combined together, to produce the ultimate package. These clever and cunning ideas may be simple, but it took a newton to question the fall of the Apple(pun intended). Three chears for steve jobs.
Extra Comment:
The way he standardised the machines apple manufactured with a regular release interval as well as an upgrade interval ensured that the Macs behaved just like Gaming Consoles - with standards that software and game designers could follow expecting perfection in their product. Another good thing about Jobs.
PS: some parts intentionally made difficult to read to help reduce offenciveness to some people.
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Dude, I can understand the poor English but Comic Sans? Honestly! Please spare us the agony!
And don't be offended, for God's sake.
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Re: "Does a Porche outsell Honda?" - Apple Year-End Report Card: A
but one nice analogy the author got "porsche vs honda's"
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Here's an awesome JobsQuote™:
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Apple's market share is bigger than BMW's or Mercedes's or Porsche's in the automotive market. What's wrong with being BMW or Mercedes?
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Dude, I can understand the poor English but Comic Sans? Honestly! Please spare us the agony!
And don't be offended, for God's sake.
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time pass. I feel apple follows trends that are often slightly out of the "normal" stuff we PC users are sued to. Thus, I just made it a joke, by using Comic Sans for the article, hilighting apple's difference from PCs.
This is cheap humour, none you can follow.
And yes, the grammer is bad, because I need to type blazingly fast, and think less, as I need to manage 3 forums at the same time, not something all can do.
Remember: Thou can never offend MetalheadGautham without Brinjal Curry. Yuck.
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Thank God! I'm so relieved.
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cool 1 .. bt this topic will continue till ..............
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Apple really makes some awsome stuff, they give good quality products that look amazing & also charge a premium amt of money for it, so that not really everyone can afford it.
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Apple may not be the ruler of the market share. I don't think it ever will as well. But there are more and more 'switchers' these days. And switchers generally don't switch back. So what I'm trying to say is, corporates and businesses may still have PCs as their preferred choice (Not necessarily Windows, but PCs) due to tech support and cheap machines, but professionals and businessmen, home users increasingly going in for the Mac platform...
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mac is good platform and will rule someday
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If i am not wrong..the reference the author or Job uses,is what i understand is quality...am i right?
If so.. I have heard many say that ipod is the best seller ,things like that..
So now my question is.. does zune outsells ipod?
Hope yöü all get the point...
Whole reply is based on my assumption of QUALITY which the author describes..
Sorry again if my assumption is wrong..
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Apple. Porsche?
you can say Apple is TVS & Windows is Bajaj/Hero Honda
Apple ~ Hyundai 
Windows (MS) ~ Toyota/Honda
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Agree with s18.
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Yep all start out as Porsches and Hondas and then end up to pimp their rides in the Linux garage
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Re: "Does a Porsche outsell Honda?" - Apple Year-End Report Card: A
There's a difference between these cars:
Cadillac Escalade --- Hyundai Tuscon
BMW X5 --- Toyota Landcrusier Prado
Land Rover LR 2 --- Honda MRV
Hummer H3 --- Nissan Pathfinder
From outside, the car looks good. High on the oomph as well as the vroom factor. But you got to drive the a X5 to know what's it's like. Prado costs like Dhs 98k. BMW X5 costs over Dhs 375k. Both has 4 wheels, 4X4 drive, petrol engines, 4 doors, one steering wheel, but you know X5 for all it's worth.
Too much Linux fanboys around. So what's Linux? Well, a Mac is Land Rover, Windows is MRV and Linux is Jeep Wrangler!
I was also like many people. Once on a Mac, there's no going back. I hate to work on my Windows PC.
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hmm
but can that BMW X5 (apple-mac...) beat the Off-road Legend - Mitsubishi Pajero (windows)?
which costs jus rs.20lakhs (X5=94lakh).
no way.
pajero may lack the extra stuffs (climate control, power seats...) but still it'll beat X5. even image wise  (more race wins & macho looks).
even porsche are (/were) in all kinds of motor-sports, wrc,gt, le mans...
so apple (mac) shud come into gaming world & assembled pc world, then we can see some real fight & development
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Re: "Does a Porsche outsell Honda?" - Apple Year-End Report Card: A
Mine is better:
Macintosh ==> Mercedes
Windows ==> Primier Padmini
Linux ==> Reva, fuel cell powered cars
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jeez!! quit comparing apples to oranges (pun intended  )
Apple is neither porsche nor Microsoft is Honda. Everyone who sells an overpriced stuff cannot be Porsche or Mercedes.
We all know that famous joke that lists what-if MS made cars
and now god save us if Apple makes cars
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/29/w...-icar-be-like/
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I have said before and would also like to state again: 'gizmodo.com' is nothing but a bunch of Apple fanboys, Like Cnet is very much biased towards MS. Even WSJ's Mossberg is way better and sensible than them.
and Linux has no apt comparison in the automobile sector cos the real world doesnt work like the world of 0s and 1s.
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LMAO DigitalDude @ the comments there
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multi-touch HD windshield
It will have only one pedal, which is the brake. You'll have to push down on the horn while pressing the pedal to accelerate.
No fm radio cuz who needs radio
Correction... why turn left when you can make three rights, instead?
I bet you can control it with your mind. Multi-touch is so last year.
It let's you buy gas online for 99c a gallon, but contains a special additive so you can only use it in your iCar!
Only turns right, because also turning left would be too complicated... and who needs to turn left, anyway?
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This is great too.
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