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Old 19-12-2007, 02:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking The CloudBook = Bye Bye EEE PC ?


We all saw the EEE PC and what its capable of. We also saw several shortcommings in it. Here is another lappy based on the same concept, but with a HDD of 30 Gigs. Its also a good looker. Its based on gOS, the same one that powered the gPC and also made by the same company, EVEREX. Its called the CloudBook. This one is a bit better than the EEE, and you may consider it for the engineering/business/kid's lappy you plan to buy. Its Ubuntu based too, so praka123, me, Cyrus_the_Virus, etc and other linux enthusiasts will be kept happy due to the fact that this bundles a popular Distro and not a distro that has gotton into legal trouble with OSS, like SuSE, Xandros, Linspire, etc



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Via C7 ULV processor clocked at 1.2GHz
30GB hard drive
1.2MP webcam
gOS
512MB of RAM
4-in-1 card reader
a pair of USB 2.0 ports
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7" Screen
800 x 480 native resolution

to me, the above looks pretty decent for running ubuntu.

Pricing

$400, thats Rs. 16,000, and anything below 20,000 rupees is concidered a possible buy by most of us.

Not much info is available on this, but its expected to be out soon next year, around the same time EEE PC 1000(the 10" screen wala) comes out.

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Old 19-12-2007, 03:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Everything looks good Lets hope one of these devices click in the market.
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Seems good. But i doubt it ll be available for the same price in india.
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Cool,This looks nice.
Hope it hits India soon.

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the one thing lacking in the EEE was that it looked worser than the XO-1, but this looks much better(black is beauty).

Don't worry about the prices, you can always count on gray markets and relatives in the US to get the price right
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The more important thing, IMO is that, this has a hard disk instead of a Solid State disk like the XO or EeePc.
No need to worry about the disk failing anymore
But,personally i think that the EeePc looks better.

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I only hope that digit covers some more details on their jan/feb issue on this one. Ours is a price sensitive market, and XFX 8800 GT, Intel C2Q6600, AMD X2 6000+ Black Edition, etc have made us happy in the high end segment. Our lower end segment is soon catching up with buys. These lappys only make us more happy

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The more important thing, IMO is that, this has a hard disk instead of a Solid State disk like the XO or EeePc.
No need to worry about the disk failing anymore
But,personally i think that the EeePc looks better.

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EEE Looks better? che che what bad taste you have, brother... lets have a voting here to see who wins. The EEE looks worser than my old 1999 lappy running DOS.

And yes, the HDD definitely adds to our needs. But yes, It would have been good if a laptop was released with 4 GB Flash and remaining HDD. the flash could be used for OS and Swap, while the HDD for user files.
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The EEE looks worser than my old 1999 lappy running DOS.
Yeah well, Its a personal opinion

Btw, i just found this,

Some guy managed to install leopard on his EeePC.
http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/11/12654/

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If price and config is right then this one is on my hit list...
Only if EEE had a HDD...
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Some guy managed to install leopard on his EeePC.
http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/11/12654/
OMG! WTF!

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If price and config is right then this one is on my hit list...
Only if EEE had a HDD...
same thought here too...
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Looks gr8.......
Will love to see its windows platform version.
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Looks gr8.......
Will love to see its windows platform version.
That looks bit difficult. This won't run Vista in anyway. If it runs XP then MS has to support it, which I doubt MS would in the long run.
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hmm...just witnessed windows effect today in new india assurance office BSOD's.... and i and many are waiting for the damn sh!t OS to work .
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hmm...just witnessed windows effect today in new india assurance office BSOD's.... and i and many are waiting for the damn sh!t OS to work .
w00t! Windows woes all over again...

yes, linux IS very much suited for places like Banks, Insurence Companies, Real Estate Agencies, etc because you can easily trust linux with sensitive data and performance critical situations, which you can never do with windows. Linux also has several apps for the above mentioned places.
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Can you both plz stop flaming windows and come to the point? The last we'd want in this thread is an OS war!!!!
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Can you both plz stop flaming windows and come to the point? The last we'd want in this thread is an OS war!!!!
sorry sir. just got carried away in the process of seeking universal truth
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w00t! Windows woes all over again...

yes, linux IS very much suited for places like Banks, Insurence Companies, Real Estate Agencies, etc because you can easily trust linux with sensitive data and performance critical situations, which you can never do with windows. Linux also has several apps for the above mentioned places.
I don't want to get in OS platform wars ..as this is not right thread and right section..and also right time(I am having paper ).

But I wonder..why U guys don't miss to add such stupid lines.

@MetalheadGautham..U started the thread..and U urself started diverting the topic.

Plz no further windows Vs Linux in this thread.

I you want linux Vs windows discussion ..than come in fight club section..but plz after 26th of this month
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I don't want to get in OS platform wars ..as this is not right thread and right section..and also right time(I am having paper ).

But I wonder..why U guys don't miss to add such stupid lines.

@MetalheadGautham..U started the thread..and U urself started diverting the topic.

Plz no further windows Vs Linux in this thread.

I you want linux Vs windows discussion ..than come in fight club section..but plz after 26th of this month
This was still not flaming. I just said some truth here.

Sorry, I forgot that this is MY thread

OK, no Windows vs Linux in this thread, only if nobody mentions windows here. It will fuel the fire for flaming(pun intended) by people like prakash and me

Why after 26th?
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This was still not flaming. I just said some truth here.
I dont want to comment.
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Means U will obey rules only in ur own thread.

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OK, no Windows vs Linux in this thread, only if nobody mentions windows here. It will fuel the fire for flaming(pun intended) by people like prakash and me
this thread is not only for linux and linux user.

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I am having papers....right now searching few points on net.
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^^

1. good habbit.
2. actually, its obay more in my own thread.
3. How? Its a linux based notebook, is it not?(don't take seriously)
4. what papers and what points?
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^^

1. good habbit.
r u making comment !!!

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2. actually, its obay more in my own thread.
forum is not personal.Its community..Anyway I dont want to teach U.Better any Mods will explain U.

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3. How? Its a linux based notebook, is it not?(don't take seriously)
so what..........can't I wish to see its windows version ???

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I am a Engineering student..and I dont need to tell you what points I am collecting
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r u making comment !!!


forum is not personal.Its community..Anyway I dont want to teach U.Better any Mods will explain U.


so what..........can't I wish to see its windows version ???


I am a Engineering student..and I dont need to tell you what points I am collecting
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2. Just a joke...
3. Ofcource you can. I was just joking again.(And I can't wait for the OSX version)
4. Chill down.
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2. Just a joke...
3. Ofcource you can. I was just joking again.(And I can't wait for the OSX version)
4. Chill down.
I dont want to waste time with U..
I have paper next afternoon. Gud nite.
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I dont want to waste time with U..
I have paper next afternoon. Gud nite.
then Best of Luck...

PS: On topic:

can anyone tell me the exact taxes applicable to imported electronics? The Import Duty and the VAT?
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$400, thats Rs. 16,000, and anything below 20,000 rupees is concidered a possible buy by most of us
Thought at RBI its 1 USD => Rs. 40 /- but still when a tech product is launched I see the price mentioned in USD becomes 52 times than USD... so i guess it would be around Rs. 21,000/- and may be some extra bucks as TAX...

now if the company has some india centric plans then may be we get the system at 15k or lower...

now it doesn then rather than Rs. 21000/- (may be + some TAX) for that system or a Compaq Presario C702TU Rs 24,000/- inc tax

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anything below 20,000 rupees is concidered a possible buy by most of us.
If you can afford a 20k notebook, will it be really difficult to afford another 4k to buy more main stream product like, Compaq Presario C702TU ??

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can anyone tell me the exact taxes applicable to imported electronics? The Import Duty and the VAT?
Not sure, as general terms says, it upto 210% lol: if the product is not available in india...

but last time when i received ZUNE I digg up some info... where i found, if you are receiving any item electronics (computer parts, notebook, MP3/MP4 players, or such) up to Rs. 10000/- (value caculated by customs, so they may calculate any thing ) then free, any thing over 10k, means the extra ammount over 10k + 25%
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thanks for the info cheeta! I will definitely look into this Compaq Presario C702TU if it exists.

And yea, the tax part is really pissing me off. Unless the government itself starts an electronics/computing company, I don't expect the taxes to go down. But still, Grey marlets to the rescue

I think this clears that lappy up:
http://chennai.vivastreet.co.in/lapt...25550-/1112494

hmm... that compaq lappy does look good, especially if we concider upgrading the ram and the processor. Even otherwise, it can comfortably run Ubutnu and function as a mainstream laptop
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I will definitely look into this Compaq Presario C702TU if it exists.
Personally i always try to provide as thruthful and accurate information as possible...

in Kolkata with free gift and without bargain the price is Rs. 24000/- incl all tax, so I guess we can brgain a little more so I said 24000/- to safe, and are you from Chennai ??

look here then

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hmm... that compaq lappy does look good, especially if we concider upgrading the ram and the processor. Even otherwise, it can comfortably run Ubutnu and function as a mainstream laptop
Once again some personal thoughts... Processor upgrade is really costly as Compaq doesnt allow from factory... but why u need a procy upgrade ?? all linux distro will fly with 1.73 GHz Cel M procy..

those who plans vista all this Notebook needs is another 512 MB RAM, this one even comes with Intel GL960 (GMA x3100) so full compatibility with Vista

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I am from bangalore, and I confirmed that laptop's existance from the website of HP-India.

I guess we need more exploration into the world of value laptops.

PS: what IS the most VFM laptop available? Be it of any config, I am asking the maximum VFM for what it offers.

wow... this is starting to look better now
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I am asking the maximum VFM for what it offers.
its really subjective question... as really depends on the need...
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