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18-12-2007, 11:06 PM
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Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
Source - Paul's Blog
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Larry Dignan sets himself up for some nasty email from the Mac zealot crowd, who would prefer spending December dreaming about Macworld next month:I’ve compiled all the security flaws in Mac OS X and Windows XP and Vista and placed them side by side. This is significant because it shows a trend that can give us a good estimate for how many flaws we can expect to find in the coming months. The more monthly flaws there are in the historical trend, the more likely it is that someone will find a hole to exploit in the future.
I used vulnerability statistics from an impartial third party vendor Secunia and I broke them down by Windows XP flaws, Vista flaws, and Mac OS X flaws. Since Secunia doesn’t offer individual numbers for Mac OS X 10.5 and 10.4, I merged the XP and Vista vulnerabilities so that we can compare Vista + XP flaws to Mac OS X. In case you’re wondering how 19 plus 12 could equal 23, this is because there are many overlapping flaws that is shared between XP and Vista so those don’t get counted twice just as I don’t count something that affects Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5 twice.
This shows that Apple had more than 5 times the number of flaws per month than Windows XP and Vista in 2007, and most of these flaws are serious. Clearly this goes against conventional wisdom because the numbers show just the opposite and it isn’t even close.
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Read the full article here - http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=758
I am surprised. Frankly, 5 times more, i am surprised!
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18-12-2007, 11:19 PM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
My spidey senses say the reply of Macboys & Lingeeks will be
Macboys : Biased article, Mac rox
Lingeeks :Secunia which has kicked the a$$ of MS many time due to security flaws was paid by MS
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18-12-2007, 11:23 PM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
Yes you're right WiNoob.
Secunia which has kicked the a$$ of MS many time due to security flaws was paid by MS.
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18-12-2007, 11:31 PM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
Gx .. common yaar you can't be this ignorant
Study the architecture , working and concepts of UNIX (thus Linux) i bet you will appriciate it !! if you don't then you are just blinded !! You will stay newb forever in the very wide subject "OS Architecture" !!
Not that i hate windows !! i like windows too ! with time things will change MS may not go open source .. it will find something between open and closed !
Let me remind you windows architecture is based on UNIX architecture .. they learnt it from UNIX
universal law is with time if things don't change then its certain of early death ! MS won't let that happen .. afaik people at MS are smart !
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18-12-2007, 11:41 PM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
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Gx .. common yaar you can't be this ignorant
Study the architecture , working and concepts of UNIX (thus Linux) i bet you will appriciate it !! if you don't then you are just blinded !! You will stay newb forever in the very wide subject "OS Architecture" !!
Not that i hate windows !! i like windows too ! with time things will change MS may not go open source .. it will find something between open and closed !
Let me remind you windows architecture is based on UNIX architecture .. they learnt it from UNIX
universal law is with time if things don't change then its certain of early death ! MS won't let that happen .. afaik people at MS are smart !
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Nows that called Fanboyism. Discussion is about OS X and Windows, the security vulnerabilties. And you simply had to inject linux into it and talk about UNIX and " If you dont agree that we are best, you are blind". Nice work, no really, impressed!
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18-12-2007, 11:53 PM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
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Nows that called Fanboyism. Discussion is about OS X and Windows, the security vulnerabilties. And you simply had to inject linux into it and talk about UNIX and " If you dont agree that we are best, you are blind". Nice work, no really, impressed!
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18-12-2007, 11:58 PM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
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Nows that called Fanboyism. Discussion is about OS X and Windows, the security vulnerabilties. And you simply had to inject linux into it and talk about UNIX and " If you dont agree that we are best, you are blind". Nice work, no really, impressed!
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i am confused .. are you saying that i am a fanboy ?? well am not at all
i was just trying to talk to gx after reading his comments on linboys
and dude if you have no knowledge about OS architecture then just shut up !! pretty simple !
i am trying to put some sense into you fanboys .. i like windows for what it is .. and linux for what it is .. same with MAC .. MAC is not just something to laugh about .. MAC is made by a genius .. just use MAC once you will know ! you stand no where .. just passing comment MAC $ucks .. hardly matters for a mac user .. he will just thrash you instead
in 2-3 years .. my OS will be Out ! (yes its just for sake of learning purpose and as my project to help me get placed well)
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19-12-2007, 12:24 AM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
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i am confused .. are you saying that i am a fanboy ?? well am not at all
i was just trying to talk to gx after reading his comments on linboys
and dude if you have no knowledge about OS architecture then just shut up !! pretty simple !
i am trying to put some sense into you fanboys .. i like windows for what it is .. and linux for what it is .. same with MAC .. MAC is not just something to laugh about .. MAC is made by a genius .. just use MAC once you will know ! you stand no where .. just passing comment MAC $ucks .. hardly matters for a mac user .. he will just thrash you instead
in 2-3 years .. my OS will be Out ! (yes its just for sake of learning purpose and as my project to help me get placed well)
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Wov, when did i say MAC sucks? Dude my next notebook would be a Macbook, and i am waiting to try out iChat! Dont make up stuff on your own!
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19-12-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
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I am surprised. Frankly, 5 times more, i am surprised!
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by this i take that you don't like mac
or may you are right .. i misunderstood you as fanboy .. if you are not then great .. you ain't a loser !! be happy man !!
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19-12-2007, 12:41 AM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
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Study the architecture , working and concepts of UNIX (thus Linux)
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what? M not some engg student, i just want to fire up 3ds max, make a few NURBS lines or A solid model from poly modeling, why would I care about the OS archi? I want to do my work, not to hunt for all these...those days are gone now.
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Let me remind you windows architecture is based on UNIX architecture .. they learnt it from UNIX
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Hmm, so from this analogy...Fiat Palio is based on Ford mustang GT released in 1970 I think, cos both have an engine & 4 tires
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i was just trying to talk to gx after reading his comments on linboys
and dude if you have no knowledge about OS architecture then just shut up !!
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U R talking like an old friend of mine who I used to hate a lot after my school days cos he once said to me "U R doing B.Com, how can u know more about Windows XP then me when I m doing BCA"...  Grow up boy, U don't own computing knowledge just cos U know about OS architecture.
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just use MAC once you will know ! you stand no where
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Learn to respect those who have walked on the same path before u, on which u r learning to walk right now
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19-12-2007, 12:43 AM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
whaow! came here to post this!now tell me is the @OP a fanboy or not ?
three points are enough:msdn,technet,windows usage -this will mean a winboy  yes,i can google
@OP:show me some vulnerabilities through which the hacker or worms can get root(admin) access in mac.comeon dude!show me asap!it will be rare.
most of these security cr@p is funded by marketing genius!.
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19-12-2007, 12:45 AM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
Huh!!!! Is it the end of another myth????
So the old saying coming true...MAC only has less viruses 'cause it has far less number of users thanM$ Win!!!
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19-12-2007, 12:49 AM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
i respect everyone except fools .. i respect you lot you know
anyway .. just forget this .. who really cares . this will get me absolutely nothing !!
such a waste of time all this is !!!!
just came here to read what's soo wrong with mac developers and saw your comments
just one thing to say . use windows be more productive and be a winner ... let others use linux and mac and be losers .. good for you !! why tell them use windows by showing faults in mac and linux .. like this one ! you get absolutely nothing or may be you do get something !
and yes .. Windows OS basic architecture is still the same as it was in 1990 ! and its not going to change for next 10 years .
i heard some new tech is going to come .. something like OS in Mobo.. but not a complete OS but something that helps out OS .. till then its not going to change .. ! of course how MS implements the basic ideas has changed !
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19-12-2007, 04:59 PM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
Thats why i løvé vista...
Its really nice..
Off topic.
Thanks admins / MODS for removing the quick reply lock..
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19-12-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
^^I suppose this may cause the Vi$ta Fanboys to celebrate, but guess what? Ubuntu was not there in the comparison  Thats only because security vulnerabilities can't happen in OSS easily, due to the speed of error reporting and correction, along with the more Classic UNIX architecture Linux has compared to Macs.
When Apple Decided to make an OS, they took the then most stable OS, FreeBSD, and modified it. But some so called usability enhancements like widgets ended up making lots of holes into the MacOS, whose numbers surprised people who thought a derivative of FreeBSD must naturally have as much, if not more security than its parent. Similar is the story when Apple made Safari from Konqueror.
I am not against Apple, but in the excuse of usability, they ignored the security risks associated with the same. The iPhone for example, runs programs in Root mode, a shocking find for security advocates.
Its about time apple decided that Eye-Candy was not the only thing thats important, and Security is important too. Infact, it may be summarised that the main reason Apple Macs sell is because of the fact that their apps are tailored to the machine, along with nice usability. But all this has taken its toll on security too.
PS: and vi$ta $till $uck$
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19-12-2007, 06:53 PM
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Re: Surprise... Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
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Thanks admins / MODS for removing the quick reply lock..
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Praise the lord (raaabo is it?) for that
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