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Old 05-12-2007, 08:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The December 2007 edition of the VB100 test subjected security software to 100 Windows 2000 viruses collected from labs and websites. Researchers at Virus Bulletin have released the results of the latest VB100 computer security test, highlighting failures at a number of leading security vendors.

Products from Kaspersky, Sophos, Trend Micro and Norman were among those that failed to protect fully against a collection of outdated viruses.

Companies whose products passed the test included Microsoft, NOD32, AVG, BitDefender, Symantec, McAfee, Sunbelt and QuickHeal.

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Old 05-12-2007, 08:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

Plz correct the link in your site, anand. The pages on virus bulletin open only if you are registered. Rather post direct links here.
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Default Re: Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

Thats good...
I like nod actually...
But i didnt know why kaspersky failed..
Ok why test with windows 2000 virus.. I dont get it.
Anyway thanks for info.
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Off topic..
Sorry to note it anand but, is it right to link to your blog or site? When the real source is somewhere?

No offence dude..

If yöü feel it s against rules please change it...coz many newbie will follow only legends like yöü...
Please dont take it in other way..
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Default Re: Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

It means windows is not safe even with paid antiviruses.But a common sense works great deal.
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^^lol Quick Heal is coming back from grave.
especially designed for win 2000 viruses.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Sorry to note it anand but, is it right to link to your blog or site? When the real source is somewhere?
I think it is allowed ! Some other members also use the same style. I mean mentioning their own site/blog as news source and then in that site/blog mentioning the real source.

Sure it helps to get traffic.
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^^heh so we need to have multiple AVs now huh?one for 98,one for 2k,one for xp,and one for vista,and heck one more for dos viruses.lol.
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^i dont think it allowed HERE..
Sorry if i am wrong.but i have seen many thread being closed or moved to chitchat section's blog stuff thread...
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Default Re: Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

Sorry for going offtopic

Edit Your Photos Directly in Flickr

Thats another example.

May be some mods/admin can clarify, I mean whether such practise is allowed here.
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^^there are many by this guy and naveen has reported them all.
I think a mod\admin need to clearify things here.
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Guys i have seen threads closed by drgrudge stating that to post the original source and not link to thier sites or blog.
I am not against them ,but i want this forum to be clean..that marulez guy was posting loads of news off lately simply to get traffic..if this IS allowed then many follow the road and we will all see 100 new threads in tech news alone for each day.
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Default Re: Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

@naveen_reloaded

I got what you meant. Yes, I also think it is better to post the orginal link instead of the blogs and user sites.
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^^ I agree with din, why not post the original source??
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Thanks din for supporting...
Now itself we are seeing many update thread..i dont get it..should EVERY 4.26xx version should be mentioned here.. I dont get it.if its say, opera released a next version say opera 10 mentioned, i will be happy..but what is there to point to when it gets a update...say 9.2659?
If thats so kaspersky,and other av are publishing new database every hour!i hope yöü all got the point.

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Default Re: Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

This test has NOTHING to do with how good an antivirus is! An antivirus will fail in this test even if it has 99.99% detection rate, and gives a few false positives..
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Default Re: Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

People seems misusing the loophole in the forum rules ! Coz it is not clearly mentioned that members are not supposed to post their own sites / blogs (obviously thats for getting more traffic), may be the admin need to modify the rules sticky to add this too.
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I don't believe VB100 tests.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I have pm'd drgrudge and he has taken action on one of the thread. And also pointed him to this thread to clarify the doubt.
Sorry for posting off topic stuff here..i am very sorry.
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Default Re: Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

You SHOULD post the full article with the source links (now you can link your site/blog). It's OK to post what you posted in your blog even though the source is outside, but make sure that you post full article here AND the article is full not like:-
Click here ---> goes to your blog , again click ---> news source


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im confused ur warning anand and still saying that 1 can link his site/blog
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im confused ur warning anand and still saying that 1 can link his site/blog
Did you read fully what I posted. I think it's clear as to what is allowed and what's not.
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Default Re: Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

What drgrudge explained is very clear.

The members can post their site or blog as source provide they post the full article here in this forum.

That means you can't post first few lines of a news and then a source link which goes to your site.

That is a good idea as people can read teh full news without going to some other blog or personal site.

Thank you for clarifying it.
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Ok i think here is what drgrudge says..
Post FULL ARTICLE...with link to the original site where yöü took...AND THEN yöü can post link to your site..

Please if possible change it in the "announcement" thread about rules...

Coz i dont think many will see this thread for this rule.

Again thanks for swift action and clearing our doubt doc..
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Our Announcement needs some editing apart from this. I can't edit announcements, only Admins can. Please PM FatBeing and let him know.
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What kinda editing apart from this.i dont get yöü?

Is admins come here? I rarely see them.sorry if i am wrong.i haven noticed them..except in some posts
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well acc to what ur laws say i dont know but from what i personally feel is that posting the crux of the article and linking is the best way to post an article coz then 1 can get the basic info and if wants more info can follow the link ... however its u guys who run the place its ur rules
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@iMav

You are confused

What drgrudge says is - two options

1. If you want to link the news to your site or your blog instaed of original article (to get more traffic and visitors to your site / blog), you have to post the entire news and then source link as your site/blog. So that people are not forced to visit your blog/site to get full information.

2. You can also post the news in short, like only the important part of news and rest and source as original site / link and not your site. So for reading the rest of the news people will be going to the original site and not any personal site.

Clear ?

Basically, this is to discourage member's tricky idea to get traffic to their own forums /blogs / personal sites which will have lot of ads and stuff. And this will also help the thinkdigit forum to be clean.

In short,for example, if you get some news from Microsoft site and want to post it here, post part of the news here and give link to MS site. Or post the full news here and give source link to your personal site. Got it ?
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i just said what i felt in my personal capacity i am against plagiarism but posting news with half article full article this link that link this source that source well just seems more BCCIish to me
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Imav hope yöü get the point..its not about the news..its about the junk threads being opened to get traffic to thier sites ..quality of the news being postied and ability of newbie to seperate a good one from junk will become more difficult.i hope they change the rules so that a minimum no of post is needed to start a thread in particular section except q&a,mobile ,games,etc...this way even bots can be stopped effectively...
And also thread can be modified so that users can vote to the thread and also to the replies within a thread..this way many threads will automatically get cleaned...just like digg...
P.s i feel digg way of function should be inherited,..
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first, i think i was one of the 1st to post this news on the net after i saw the results.

you can always visit the vb100 site and search for the results. i took time to register there, (YOU have to register to see the results) saw the results, collated them and posted them at my site.

had i not posted the results/conclusions here too, but instead just posted the link to my site, it would have been objectionable ! i CANNOT post the whole report here. you HAVE to register at virusbtn to see the summary only !!! and if you want the whole report you have to get it by post ! and one cant post the report elsewhere...only the summary !

as far as i can see, if a site-owner has taken trouble to collect/collate information at his site and then posted it here, pointing it to his site, he is entitled to post the link ! would you have objected to it if i had posted the link to some western site dont think so ! it so happens wvc reported it first and it happens to be mine !

and please ! i am already being burdened by increasing bandwidth costs ... dont think id want to pull traffic by just posting links just for the heck of it since i consider digit as my home-forum, after posting at wvc i usually post here too.

so i think the subtle warning by drgrudge to me does not stand !

nevertheless, if the mods wish to delete/lock my threads anytime they are most welcome to do so ! after all, this IS a private forum; and pls, let the debate end here; it will, from my side.
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