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16-10-2007, 10:18 AM
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Go Pirates Go
The Pirate Bay, the world's largest torrent tracker hastaken up a surprisingnew residence. The site, which hosts over 630,000 torrents, movedaboard the domain ifpi.com, which formerly belonged to the International Federation of thePhonographic Industry (IFPI).
While many may be unfamiliar with the IFPI, its work is familiar to many. TheIFPI is the parent organization of the Recording Industry Association ofAmerica (RIAA) and the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).
The IFPI has been a champion of lawsuits againstinternet pirates, increasing the scope of copyright laws and developing DRMtechnologies to stop users from copying their songs or media. Its actions have been mirroredby its lower level affiliates such as the RIAA.
Thus, the Pirate Bay's acquisition of the ihpi.com domain is seen by many as amajor coup. When users go to the site, they are redirected to a PirateBay site that bears the text "International Federation of PirateInterests". The IFPI is not happy with the move.
The domain WHOIS shows that the domain is indeed officially registered toBrokep, a Pirate Bay administrator and is not a hack.
Brokep wascontacted and quoted as saying, "International Federation of PirateInterests (IFPI) is the new international federation were starting in order toget the word of piracy spread. [The domain] is not a hack. Someone justgave us the domain name. We have no idea how they got it, but it's ours andwe're keeping it."
The IFPI attempts to take legal action against the Pirate Bay seem to befloundering. A leaked email between the IFPI and one of their lawyersrevealed that they were requesting information from the Swedish police, whohave a long-standing investigation of the Pirate Bay. The Swedish police,according to preliminary reports, have rejected their request.
The IHPI hosts a broad array of television, music, and software torrents.
The internet piracy battle continues as the IFPI and torrent hosters such asPirate Bay trade volleys, but for now the Pirate Bay seems to have won ahandsome treasure.
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16-10-2007, 11:13 AM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
I wonder how Pirate Bay has kept itself alive for so long after practically teasing RIAA MPAA and other organisations. I heard that their location is also know, still they seem to be alive and pumping!
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16-10-2007, 11:35 AM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
that is because the laws of the land where they are do not have any provisions for piracy and pirates
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16-10-2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
^^^ Thats coz they don't host anything pirated or warez. And hosting torrents is not a crime.
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16-10-2007, 12:25 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
Exactly, coz most of the EU contries still have sane laws when it comes to Intellectual property.
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16-10-2007, 01:24 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
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Originally Posted by infra_red_dude
^^^ Thats coz they don't host anything pirated or warez. And hosting torrents is not a crime.
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hosting torrents is considered illegal
if u chk pirate bay's letter section u will find many letters sent to thm by various corporates telling them to take down the torrents also some months ago joejoe.og was also told by MS to remove torrents of their longhorn project
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16-10-2007, 02:06 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
Hosting torrents is NOT illegal. EU/US has no provisions to sue them as they are not distributing pirated software. If you look at the disclaimers of such sites you will see that they say, We do not host pirated software etc. etc.
This is the reason why mininova, piratebay etc. are thriving even to this date. The pirate bay is also used for hosting legal torrents (tho they are very less in number).
But most of them are for pirated software. Even tho the industry knows this they can do nothing.
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16-10-2007, 02:11 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
infra u really think the law makers are so dumb that they wont have provisions for torrents ??? wen those guys come up with resolutions they are so bloody perfect ki kisi ka baap unmein galti nahin nikal sakta ... and it has been said on numerous ocasions by pirate bay itself that the laws of the country where their servers and they are have no legislations for piracy and are not bound by EU/US laws
PS: chodd na hum log kyon behas kar rahe hain .... torrent hai dwnld karo majani life
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16-10-2007, 02:29 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
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Originally Posted by iMav
infra u really think the law makers are so dumb that they wont have provisions for torrents ???
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there are different laws in different countries.EU countries have no law against hosting torrents which are no more than a text files haveing some Ip addressed and details about a file.How can this be illegal(logically speaking)?
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PS: chodd na hum log kyon behas kar rahe hain .... torrent hai dwnld karo majani life
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yea man.Atleast India mein to nahin hai.
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16-10-2007, 02:42 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
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Originally Posted by iMav
The Pirate Bay, the world's largest torrent tracker hastaken up a surprisingnew residence. The site, which hosts over 630,000 torrents, movedaboard the domain ifpi.com, which formerly belonged to the International Federation of thePhonographic Industry (IFPI).
While many may be unfamiliar with the IFPI, its work is familiar to many. TheIFPI is the parent organization of the Recording Industry Association ofAmerica (RIAA) and the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).
The IFPI has been a champion of lawsuits againstinternet pirates, increasing the scope of copyright laws and developing DRMtechnologies to stop users from copying their songs or media. Its actions have been mirroredby its lower level affiliates such as the RIAA.
Thus, the Pirate Bay's acquisition of the ihpi.com domain is seen by many as amajor coup. When users go to the site, they are redirected to a PirateBay site that bears the text "International Federation of PirateInterests". The IFPI is not happy with the move.
The domain WHOIS shows that the domain is indeed officially registered toBrokep, a Pirate Bay administrator and is not a hack.
Brokep wascontacted and quoted as saying, "International Federation of PirateInterests (IFPI) is the new international federation we’re starting in order toget the word of piracy spread. [The domain] is not a hack. Someone justgave us the domain name. We have no idea how they got it, but it's ours andwe're keeping it."
The IFPI attempts to take legal action against the Pirate Bay seem to befloundering. A leaked email between the IFPI and one of their lawyersrevealed that they were requesting information from the Swedish police, whohave a long-standing investigation of the Pirate Bay. The Swedish police,according to preliminary reports, have rejected their request.
The IHPI hosts a broad array of television, music, and software torrents.
The internet piracy battle continues as the IFPI and torrent hosters such asPirate Bay trade volleys, but for now the Pirate Bay seems to have won ahandsome treasure.
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Err a small change its IFPI & not ihpi...boss
& as infra says
hosting torrents is not illegal...Its like a link to a file [in this case parts of files] [remember links to a pic or a site made by users in forums...U dont host it but u show way to it... ]Its upto the users to folow it up....forget the trackers & leech & all that ....They are not actual files which has copyrighted contents ...
if only they host actual files they get sued for Patents & all dat blah....
If they really pursue they the case then they should file cases against Rapidshare & similar file hosting sites....make it more tight
yeah all this is crapp & when it comes to EU ...they dont have laws which are more practical in nature.....
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16-10-2007, 03:01 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
any link where it explicitly says that torrents of pirated programs are not illegal ???? and yeah me copy pasted
heres ur logic ....
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Originally Posted by wikipedia
This change is said to cause some trouble in the legal efforts to shut down illegal file sharing. However, Tarun Sawney, BSA Asia anti-copyright infringement director, said BitTorrent files could still be identified, since with or without the tracker sites, actual users still host the infringing files
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a discussion abt this: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...s.cfm?t=289144
bit torrent when asked about illegal torrents
another discussion on a forum about this - http://theappleblog.com/community/ge...rrent-illegal/
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16-10-2007, 03:07 PM
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die blizzard die! D3?
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Re: Go Pirates Go
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Originally Posted by piratebay
Hello and thank you for contacting us. We have shut down the website in
question.
Oh wait, just kidding. We haven't, since the site in question is fully
legal. Unlike certain other countries, such as the one you're in, we have
sane copyright laws here. But we also have polar bears roaming the
streets and attacking people  .
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You're free to demand anything you want. So are we. We demand that you
cease and desist sending letters like this, since they're frivolous and
meaningless. Where should I send the bill for the consumed diskspace and
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These are in response to emails sent by EA to piratebay for removing 'the sims 2' torrents.
This clearly indicated they have no such law in sweden which prohibits storing torrents on their servers.
SOURCE(nice timepass,you will love the apple letter and the response to it)
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16-10-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
^ ^ .......
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16-10-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
Woah i don't know if i should say bravo or not confused about it. Geez somehow wish i had a pirate friend i mean the pirates
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16-10-2007, 09:09 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
@iMav
Torrents are illegal only in one country, US. That is becoz the DMCA applicable in US has a 'make available' clause. No where else in the civilized world, a make available is present in the intellectual property lawa,
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16-10-2007, 09:19 PM
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Re: Go Pirates Go
Hosting Torrents in USA is illegal since you are still supporting Piracy  The Pirtae bay hosts outside US so they dont bother those DMCA
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