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12-09-2007, 06:54 PM
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Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
Seems to me like a fallout of the adnan case and terrorism ...
The Indian city of Mumbai hopes to fight terrorism by installing keyloggers
All Internet cafes in the Indian city of Mumbai will have police-sanctioned key-logger software installed on their machines to help combat terrorism. With a population of 13 million residents, cafe owners only in the city of Mumbai will be forced to install the software.
All cafe owners will be forced to register and receive a city license from police headquarters, reveal the number of PCs located in the location and Internet protocol (IP) addresses for all of the PCs. Any cafe owners who do not register can be fined, with harsher punishments possible.
The announcement follows bombings in Hyderabad and Mumbai that were reportedly organized in Internet cafes.
"The police needs to install programs that will capture every key stroke at regular interval screen shots, which will be sent back to a server that will log all the data," said Vijay Mukhi, India Foundation for Information Security and Technology president. "The police can then keep track of all communication between terrorists no matter which part of the world they operate from. This is the only way to patrol the net and this is how the police informer is going to look in the e-age," he added.
Privacy experts and bloggers around the world point out different methods criminals can use to remain anonymous. A CNET blog indicates the use of proxy servers and Tor could be two potentially popular methods to get around the keyloggers.
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12-09-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
WOW
Idea is good, but
"The police needs to install programs that will capture every key stroke at regular interval screen shots, which will be sent back to a server that will log all the data,"
Hmm ... Logging everything literally !
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12-09-2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
u think they will go thru everything .. they will do it after catastrophe strikes
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12-09-2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
who will pay the extra bandwdith cost ?? whats the gurrenty of my private data like Account info, Credit Card information ??
There are to many ifs and buts... to me its the worst Idea for Users atleast... !!!
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12-09-2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
^may be for windows compi-uters only!there are cafe's with Linux too na?
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12-09-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
Privacy Gone....
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12-09-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
thats what i do in all internet cafe's for private reasons
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12-09-2007, 07:04 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
Its a BS idea.. ll lead to privacy issues..
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12-09-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
yes bul$hit , our info wil b leaked then... WTH
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12-09-2007, 07:08 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
Its not if, Indian Police servers..  u can imagine how secure they them self are  its almost certain the all info will be leaked, info like Usres CC info, Private emails...
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12-09-2007, 07:40 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
I wonder where will they save those billions of screen shots.
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12-09-2007, 09:03 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
This all all BS and gaaagaziiii...i dont think it will be implemented but yeah it sure is breach of privacy
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12-09-2007, 09:10 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
this is stupidity!!!
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12-09-2007, 09:21 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
Oh come on...the forces barely do their current duty properly now, and they're going to monitor millions of screenshots? Phu-leeze
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12-09-2007, 10:11 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
Gaye hamare password kudedan mein
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13-09-2007, 01:02 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
And you think those fatheads sitting in cybercells will be able to sift through *all* the data they'll be presented with ..??
They are really very pesimistic about Mumbai's cybercafe usage .. Let them get the first installments of all the keylogger's data and then we'll see what they are able to find out ..
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13-09-2007, 02:03 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
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The Indian city of Mumbai hopes to fight terrorism by installing keyloggers
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How about fighting terrorism by putting everyone in prison?
Nothing but another blow on individual privacy by the very government voted elected by the people.
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13-09-2007, 02:12 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
oh. bullshit. How about filing an rti on how they are going to deal with privacy issues on the information thus collected. For how long data will be stored and stuff. Definitely suing material.
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13-09-2007, 02:46 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
Simply pathetic!!!!
What next? Tap all SMS and snail mail?
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13-09-2007, 04:57 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
poor things are bored.. they just want to read ppls scrapbooks for timepass
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13-09-2007, 06:45 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
Reminds me I was once dragged out of a Cyber Cafe because I cleared the IE cache.
If the compulsion on Identity card wasn't enough, here comes the key-logger news.
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13-09-2007, 11:26 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
I am not Installing Any Key Loggers in my Internet Cafe'( What even if its in Nagpur), no. never.
I have a explicit Notice on the board that this Cafe' doesnt have any Key Loggers or Spy ware software ,in any of the 35 PC's that it has.
Internet Banking is the safest and i draw most customer on the trust.
For once i am going to Fight this law Tooth and nail.Thought i really don't have any idea how one fights it, tooth and nail.Ughh too much of clichés is bad .
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13-09-2007, 11:31 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
As for Kolkata, I am already Diging through Indian ACTs to see what gives me right to say no to install such if centraly GOV wants to impliment these crap options...
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13-09-2007, 12:18 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
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Reminds me I was once dragged out of a Cyber Cafe because I cleared the IE cache.
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What the hell, is that how they treat customers there  . Here they don't drag, just point a "Desi katta" on the head & say "chal bhag"
But seriously, nothing like this here. You can go where ever u want & no problem, most of the cyber cafes that i know here are someway associated with students which configure & play with the network like gpedit, or samba etc on it.
My friends cyber cafe is running from 4 years, still the same old hardware & XP, it rox...but still no such restrictions here, cos when the user goes to change something he gets error "Access denied"  . Simple & effective, although cabins are not allowed here anymore
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If the compulsion on Identity card wasn't enough, here comes the key-logger news.
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ID card is good enough.
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13-09-2007, 12:18 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
This plan won't succeed.
There is a cyber in my area where the speeds sucks(I sometimes think my dialup works fast  ).What will happen if such software eats precious bandwith?
Also what is the state of broadband in India.Seriously pathetic.
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13-09-2007, 05:14 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
great plan ...... bt where & which SERVERS r they gonna save those ss ?
hope this process dont EAT UP or AFFECT "NET CONNECTIONS" .....
forcing socalled "BROADBAND" speed 2 "DIALUP" speed ........
else its OK .......
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13-09-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
Most of the cyber cafes have limited bandwdith. This will eat up their bandwidth, already low memory resources and cpu.
Speeds will be affected. Forget about the police getting our data.
What if a geek runs the cafe and uses the data collected by that softy.
Workaround:
Install your os in a portable hdd and boot through it. Hehe
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13-09-2007, 11:35 PM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
wats going happen 2 people who do shopping????
once i thought 2 install some keyloggers in some Cafes in my area as it was very easy 2 get through there system but dropped the plan as i didn't have the time & didn't no wat i would have done with the data.
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14-09-2007, 12:00 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
This is an example of innovative use stupidity for national security.
I think id's are enough, keyloggers is over kill
This is what they have to say about privacy:
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“The question we need to ask ourselves is whether a breach of privacy is more important or the security of the nation. I do not think the above question needs an answer,” said Mukhi. “
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taken from whoisdeep.com
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14-09-2007, 01:24 AM
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Re: Mumbai to Keyloggers in all Cafes ...
yeah, the monkey who cut off the king's head with an axe while attempting to kill a mosquito probably asked himself the question.
"The question we need to ask ourselves is whether some inconvenience is more important or long term protection from malaria, dengue and chickengunia. I do not think the above question needs an answer,”
cliches are usually used to cover up dumbness.
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