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Linux Foundation to Linux users : Respect Microsoft
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Linux needs to recognise Microsoft's leadership in some areas to better itself, Jim Zemlin, executive director for the Linux Foundation told delegates at the Linuxworld tradeshow in San Fransisco. As Linux has become a mainstream operating system, it is exiting the first stage of its life. The second stage requires a different strategy form the first one, said the Linux promotor.
Open source vendors have to recognise that Windows is here to stay and that together with Microsoft it will form a duopoly in the market for operating systems. This also requires that the Linux community respects Microsoft rather than ridicule it. "There are some things that Windows does pretty well," Zemlin said. Microsoft for instance has excelled in marketing the operating system, and has a good track record in fending off competition.
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Lolz....what can I say..where is DRM DRM DRM DRM Calling Linux a movement & that Linux foundation will never call Microsoft good.
(P.S - They want Office 2007 for Mac  )
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Re: Linux Foundation to Linux users : Respect Microsoft
Windows is here to stay  this statement made me crack
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Microsoft for instance has excelled in marketing the operating system, and has a good track record in fending off competition.
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This is what money power can buy!!
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This is what money power can buy!!
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whatever it may be , fact is MS is a successful business
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10-08-2007, 11:38 AM
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whatever it may be , fact is MS is a successful business 
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For sure. They don't mind spending $$$ for marketing, ads etc. And they don't mind whether their business is ethical or not.
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10-08-2007, 11:43 AM
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whatever it may be , fact is MS is a successful business 
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yes microsoft really has a greatest bussiness tat is fact. And i think Gates is the only person using only one company (microsoft) has become the richest man on earth, but other rich people like Warren buffet and others have more than one company.
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10-08-2007, 03:52 PM
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@din: Businesses are not ethical nowdays. M$ as well as other computer companies do everything unethical to sell their product. Dell, INtel, AMD, even OS people do it or they wont survive.
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10-08-2007, 04:28 PM
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I hope Windows brand be eliminated from the world for eternal by utmost 2015.also the monopolistic microsoft be subsided.But admits,hopes are hopes.Let there something more innovative come.not necessarily FOSS.if u feel the words are offending(BSOD in ur brain,u fanatic "idiot")-sync for a minute.if it fails press ctrl+alt+del u'll get restarted,problems solved.temp soltn.do this every time
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I hope Windows brand be eliminated from the world for eternal by utmost 2015.also the monopolistic microsoft be subsided.But admits,hopes are hopes.Let there something more innovative come.not necessarily FOSS.if u feel the words are offending(BSOD in ur brain,u fanatic "idiot")-sync for a minute.if it fails press ctrl+alt+del u'll get restarted,problems solved.temp soltn.do this every time 
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by that time you will rarely see a desktop pc
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10-08-2007, 04:38 PM
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^there must be something "new" be there by that time.not necessarily Operating Systems.something new.i am looking on apple,OSS and others.never M$ and innovation(their innovation is fulltime fanboys here in this forum=for eg; and DRM on ur VistA!  )
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10-08-2007, 04:49 PM
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^ You guys can never stop fighting.  Even Linus and Billy wont be arguing that much.
PS: And who's invisible here?
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both should respect each other......both try to compete instead fight simply !
rather focus on improving their products than finding out problems in other OSes
help people to implement computers well !!
i see some people saying all companies cheat......might be true...but very sad !!
and i dont care about their fights let them do whatever they want
i will any way use the stuff that is best suited for me ! even if the other is suited for rest 99% and even be far superior to it !
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hope they dont shake hands ..............
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12-08-2007, 01:44 PM
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^ lol........ Why?
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12-08-2007, 01:53 PM
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Microsoft: Respect. People think I'm always against MS, but I'm not. I think MS is a great company and Gates is a genius.
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12-08-2007, 02:20 PM
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Because of rich fools buying OS which has nothing to offer expect gaming  Seesh 17k for nothing just a BOX paked Cd/ DVD
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Because of rich fools buying OS which has nothing to offer expect gaming  Seesh 17k for nothing just a BOX paked Cd/ DVD 
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Is that all You see? You don't see the ease of use Windows give?
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12-08-2007, 03:18 PM
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love it or hate it but you just cant ignore MS... Billy G is a very smart man..
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12-08-2007, 04:20 PM
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I hope Windows brand be eliminated from the world for eternal by utmost 2015.also the monopolistic microsoft be subsided.But admits,hopes are hopes.
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First, change your keyboard. You "space" key is not working. Or is it not supported on your Linux Distribution? :d
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What if that Innovation comes from Microsoft? Will you not use it then? Windows changed the way we work on computer despite of the fact that Apple came with a working GUI before MS, just cos Windows was easier & widely available to everyone. Where was Linux in 1995 prakash?
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If I don't tinker, BSOD is a thing of past.
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^there must be something "new" be there by that time.not necessarily Operating Systems.something new.i am looking on apple,OSS and others.never M$ and innovation
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The real future of PCs is Tablet PCs, another platform pioneered by Microsoft. So, like I said, if MS changes the way we interact with Computers in Windows 7 won't u use it? Oh wait...u will use it after KDE & GNOME copy it in a 4 years span.
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Well said, now I hope others understand it too
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12-08-2007, 05:51 PM
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Is that all You see? You don't see the ease of use Windows give?
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Pathetic.. 17k for ease of use.. I say Linux is not that hard .. Just leave spoon feeding and you will find it easy
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12-08-2007, 05:57 PM
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Pathetic.. 17k for ease of use.. I say Linux is not that hard .. Just leave spoon feeding and you will find it easy 
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completly agree with u on this
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Pathetic.. 17k for ease of use.. I say Linux is not that hard .. Just leave spoon feeding and you will find it easy 
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Hmm...I wonder about your limited scope of Knowledge. Yes we all know that Windows is overpriced, but Vista Home premium is all u need for Rs 9k...what u get with it
1) Media Center, no equivalent available in Linux
2) DirectX 10 & the best PC gaming platform out there.
3) Any hardware will work.
4) You don't have to work 10 hrs just to play a DivX file
5) Microsoft Office & Collaboration tools.
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12-08-2007, 06:21 PM
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Hmm...I wonder about your limited scope of Knowledge. Yes we all know that Windows is overpriced, but Vista Home premium is all u need for Rs 9k...what u get with it
1) Media Center, no equivalent available in Linux
2) DirectX 10 & the best PC gaming platform out there.
3) Any hardware will work.
4) You don't have to work 10 hrs just to play a DivX file
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Ur statement bounce back to you  ."Hmm...I wonder about your limited scope of Knowledge. "
1. MythUbuntu. and a Media Center based Linux http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2007...ion-for-linux/
2. Lolz .  Too much Hardware needed  and DX10 gaming nirvana . None of the game are playable @ 30 FPS above..  and DX 10 doomed DX 11 rumored 
3. Same here  Just you need to configure 
4. WHy ? So .. :S
5/ LMAO MS office is the suckiest office wizard I had ever used.. After using it from my childhood .. I mean after school.. I haven't touched that crap of code  .. OOO ftw
Rest Linux is ftw ~ steps ahead of windows  Check this before claiming any statement again Linux beauty and Vista WOW .. WoW to peda hone se pehle hi mar gaya http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I
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12-08-2007, 06:23 PM
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Pathetic.. 17k for ease of use..
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100 baat ki 1 bat .. Linux Engg given double salary while WIndows koi puchta hi nahi  LMAO >... ya that's right .. Linux Engg are in gr8 demand.. While no 1 bother that you know windows or not... So chad de chad de billu di windowia
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100 baat ki 1 bat .. Linux Engg given double salary while WIndows koi puchta hi nahi  LMAO >... ya that's right .. Linux Engg are in gr8 demand..
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from where u got this info. ?
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from where u got this info. ?
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 Eh? U asking a person who is gng 2 give engg exam  ..Hehe I consulted many peoples  Some from this forum and my bro. who is Nokia Project Head atm in Uk
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Offtopic:
which companies r asking more linux engineer ? let us know.
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& How good is that compared to MCE? Does it supports any TV Tuner out there? Hardware encoding? HD Content & streams for TV?
That would be your excude for "i can't play games on Linux"
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Why? I want to work...not configure for 10 hrs. Let me know how to get my Pinnacle PCTV Stereo TV Tuner card in PCLinuxOS in 3 steps plz.
Ease of use, ever heard about it?
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5/ LMAO MS office is the suckiest office wizard I had ever used.. After using it from my childhood .. I mean after school.. I haven't touched that crap of code .. OOO ftw
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Openoffice is good, if u in 1995 & using at single user PC at home only...& don't care for compatibility.
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Rest Linux is ftw ~ steps ahead of windows
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A rumar spread by Lingeeks
You call that productive & fast to work with?
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^^ until and unless u try u will find it har d  .. U study ? If so leave it .. it is also bit hard at times.. What we are today .. I mean see the things Comps. discoveries and all  If all would have thought like u .. Hard hard then we would be living in Jungles and you would have dressed in Animal skin doing hua hua  ROFL copter
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