iPhone actually costs $2038.76 + iPhone over priced for the parts

[ssk_the_gr8]

i had to post this
i know their is an official iphone thread but i had to post this to get more attention .sorry

This is a minimum you pay in two years


We checked a few websites, including AT&T, to learn how much the iPhone actually costs. We did some simple math and learned that over two years you need to spend at least $2038.76 to get the top notch 8 GB iPhone.

The minimum AT&T contract costs $59.99 a month and it includes unlimited internet over edge and 450 minutes of talk time plus 200 SMS messages. This is way more than people are willing to pay for their phone bills in most of Europe.

When you multiply this sum with 24 months that is the minimum contract you will end up at $1439.76 for the plan, in case you don't make any additional costs and + $599 that you have to pay for the device itself.

You even need to pay a one time fee for activation of the phone. I can admit that I would definitely like to play with one of these but not at that price as this money can get you two if not three decent laptops.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=1733&Itemid=1


Dismantlers reveal the truth



Apple is making a fortune by charging more than double the book price for the parts which make up its iPhone.

With the machine now being pulled apart it is clear which parts are being used for the new $500 phone.

Companies which have included parts are Intel, Broadcom, Texas Instruments, Infineon Technologies, Skyworks and Linear Technology.

Samsung, which is making the main microprocessor used to run the phone's operating system and various applications. Intel is supplying the NOR flash.

However if you add up all the bits this comes to just $200 in materials. The 8 gig version costs only $20 more to build but costs an extra $100.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=1742&Itemid=1

[QwertyManiac]

Thread title's funny .. We're getting a good deal if the title were true

[Third Eye]

I can get a good pc instead of buying this.

[ssk_the_gr8]

Originally Posted by QwertyManiac

Thread title's funny .. We're getting a good deal if the title were true

what do u mean if u cud explain a bit

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

Originally Posted by ssk_the_gr8

what do u mean if u cud explain a bit

Well on reading the title you think that iPhone actually costs $2000+ to Aple and it is slling it to us at $599 , then it would be a good deal.

that's what qwerty meant , and that's what i thought too until i read the first para of the post

[QwertyManiac]

Haha yeah .. I guess no one ever reads the title They just come in, post and go out blind

[iMav]

we ignore typos

[QwertyManiac]

I find them funny and thus mention it. This news was yesterday's anyway.

[iMav]

ya well 2k $ fone wud be nothing less than a joke which i might say that when i told 1 of my frenz abt the iphone's features and cost he too was shocked at 3 things: no A2dP, No video rec. and no mms and the 4th the price

[din]

Originally Posted by ssk_the_gr8

i had to post this
i know their is an official iphone thread but i had to post this to get more attention .sorry

Man, you can even start another thread, proof I will give

"Reliance Data Card - actual cost is Rs.46100 !!!"

Explanation : When i bough the card, cost was Rs.6500 (cost of card alone)

I used it for last 2 yrs and the service fee, that is 1650 per month for unlimited internet is 1650 * 24

So total comes to Rs.46100 Howz that ?

The official thread is already listing all drawbacks and problems of iPhone, and the manufacturing - selling price comparison is also there. But this is really surprising ! New ways to compare the price lol

When we buy a PC, if you pay Rs.30000, we will compare it like, actual price 30,000 + 24,000 for 2 yr ? As power bill may come upto Rs.1000 a month !!!

I do not understand how can we compare that ! When we buy a product, we pay for it, when it provide a service, we hae to pay seperately for that too, for any mobile, so that amount is also added to phone price ? Sorry but I can't understand that logic.

Anyway title was cool As QwertyManiac said, thats a good deal lol

[sakumar79]

din, I think what the author was trying to say is that since the iphone is tied with AT&T for minimum 2 year contract, and that the minimum plan costs so much per month, you are tied up for the 2000 odd bucks over the next two years...

Still, it is not a valid argument, and has been made deliberately to put the iphone in a biased light.

Arun

[karnivore]

^^ This concept of costing is called "Relevant Costing", where u not only take the cost of the product, but the other cost, like running, maintaining and operating cost exclusively associated with the product.

It is a concept of "Cost Accounting"

Sorry to deviate. Carry on..........

[din]

Originally Posted by sakumar79

din, I think what the author was trying to say is that since the iphone is tied with AT&T for minimum 2 year contract, and that the minimum plan costs so much per month, you are tied up for the 2000 odd bucks over the next two years...

Yes, I understood that. It is very similar to CDMA phones here, isn't it ? I mean if you buy a Tata Indicom phone, you can't make it work on other service providers isn't it ?

Same with the data card. If you buy Reliance data card, there is no option to give it back and get the money, there is no option to change service provider. You will have to pay every month.

But we can't tell the data card cost is Rs.46100. We all know its data card cost + the service fee.

As you said there is no point in comparing the service fee and adding it to phone price.

[ssk_the_gr8]

@din
its not like that mate.. i mean if u even take something like nokia n95 from some carrier like at&t or any other in USA then it doesnt cost as much as the iphone
i wanted to show that apple is ripping off everyone by selling it at a very high price & AT&T is ripping of people by giving them an inferior plan i.e. no. of sms, free calls etc.
now i think u get it.. its all in comparison to other plans/offers.

[din]

Originally Posted by ssk_the_gr8

@din
its not like that mate.. i mean if u even take something like nokia n95 from some carrier like at&t or any other in USA then it doesnt cost as much as the iphone

Are you sure ? Atleast, you checked with AT&T or any other US mobile comapnies regarding the charges ?

Mostly, the talk plans will be like $40 and data $20, I mean the lowest plans. So how come $59.99 a month is high ?

Please explain ...

In India, when you buy a Reliance or Tata mobile phone, you get a set of plans and a set of phones. You can select any one from those and you just can't make your own plan or select a phone that is not in the list.

Very similar to that. Isn't it ? Still you think its a good logic comparing the plan charge and phone charge ?

[goobimama]

Most people in India are like $60 per month! That's Outrageous! But fact of the matter is, most talk plans do cost that much in the States. Its just that we are (I am) used to paying $2 a month so it seems a bit high...

[ssk_the_gr8]

Originally Posted by goobimama

Most people in India are like $60 per month! That's Outrageous! But fact of the matter is, most talk plans do cost that much in the States. Its just that we are (I am) used to paying $2 a month so it seems a bit high...

check out the link man.. its not me only.its the foreigners themselves complaining

[din]

Dear ssk_the_gr8

Why should you rely on fudzilla.com ?

Please contact your friends in US, or check the AT & T website or any other mobile companies and you will know whether $60 a month is high or low.

[ambandla]

Originally Posted by ssk_the_gr8

check out the link man.. its not me only.its the foreigners themselves complaining

huh. is it.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/h...in-total-cost/

Check this link.

Samsung Blackjack + 2yr service plan costs $1900. Does this mean that Blackjack costs $1900.

FYI, Blackjack + 2yr plan @ $1900 is one of the best service plans available in US.

Blackberry Curve + 2yr contract costs $2,479.

Infact, majority people say that AT&T plan is very good and balances the price of iphone.

Price of iphone on a 2yr contract : $500
Price of Samsung Blackjack on a 2 yr contract: $75
Price of BB Curve on a 2yr contract: $200


Price of 2yr plan - iphone : $1919
Price of 2yr plan - blackjack : $1919
Price of 2yr plan - BB Curve: $2,279

[ssk_the_gr8]

ok maybe i shouldnt have relyed on fudzilla but the iphone is overpriced u will agree to this & check out the engadget link their r better deals available than the iphone. IMHO

[ambandla]

Originally Posted by ssk_the_gr8

ok maybe i shouldnt have relyed on fudzilla but the iphone is overpriced u will agree to this & check out the engadget link their r better deals available than the iphone. IMHO

This depends on what your requirement is.

iphone is actually an ipod that can make calls. This way, it's a terrific product. It's the best ipod ever made.

Internet. The iphone is the best in terms of internet browsing ( for smart phones).

$600 is the starting price of a new phone that has so much new features in it.

Take any such products. ipod, N95, Blackberry phones, PC components.

If there is any new never-ever before product, the price wil be high.

They include the research, marketing etc costs in the price. As weeks go, the price is reduced.

DO you remember the cost of first ever ipod?

5GB $399
10GB $499

9 months later, they released 2nd gen with touch sensitive clickwheel:

10GB: $399
20GB: $499

N95, now costs $675-$800. after few weeks/months, who knows, we may get it for $99 on a 1/2yr contract

[din]

@ssk_the_gr8

Oh man, please go through the engadget link and check the service fee. Even they gave a detail list and it is very clear that the service fee is not at all high, it is very close to the normal rates. There is nothing like "too high" as service fee.

If that is not all

from the engadget -

the iPhone plans are totally fair, based on AT&T's current pricing scheme.

and

Shockingly enough, iPhone users actually stand to save a decent chunk of change if they're on family plans

Again the same request - Please contact your friends in US, or check the AT & T website or any other mobile companies and you will know

[ssk_the_gr8]

checked out with my cousin in US. he told me abt the hype over there.people buying it & loving it or hating it but we have to give credit to apple for creatin the hype.
looks like u apple fanboys wont leave me. i agree it is a good phone but it has some glaring omissions as no 3g,no user replaceable battery etc.which i expect in a $600 phone(actually everyone expects).

all in all i was just tryin to give u the views of some people on the net

i think we should end the discussion here


Apple Announces $85.95 iPhone Battery Replacement Program

All data on your iPhone will be erased when you send it off, so Apple suggests that you backup all of your important information with iTunes before sending it off.

Considering that an iPhone sent in for servicing could be out of the owners hand for as much as a week or more (including shipping time), Apple has another program in place for customers. If you absolutely can't live without your iPhone, Apple will rent you an iPhone for $29 while your device is being serviced.

In the end, it seems like a pretty big hassle for what could be accomplished with a simple, user-replaceable battery.

That's almost the cost of a laptop battery!! I know they are charging for the service but why didn't they made it user replaceable to begin with, and how can live over a week with out a cell phone these days.
The batteries better be good or there is going to be a lot of angry people.

By nayy

http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Annou...rticle7931.htm

now what do u all have to say?
are they not ripping u off even if the battery goes bad after 2 years or so still ...

[gxsaurav]

Yup, we know they are ripping. But Macboys obviously won't agree to it. For them paying $85 for replacing the battery is better then paying $20 for the battery & replacing yourself.

Imagine an Apple World.

Apple likes to keep things simple. They don't want people to open the iPhone like we can in our SE or Nokia Phones & change the battery as it can lead to confusion about which way the battery should go . See they love (read: screw) there customers so much. They don't want the customers to do a very very tough job of opening up the phone by just sliding the back cover. It could get very complex, so Apple has offered to do it themselves for a modest charge of $85, compared to the very high charge of $20 for other phones battery in which case you have to slide the phone cover yourself.

The benefit of paying $85 to Apple for getting a battery of $20 (Example), You don't have to open the back cover.

We are discussing this in the official iPhone thread already.

[ssk_the_gr8]

@gx_saurav
thanx for the support mate.. these fanboys r after me

[iMav]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

Apple likes to keep things simple. They don't want people to open the iPhone like we can in our SE or Nokia Phones & change the battery as it can lead to confusion about which way the battery should go

hmmm ... apple is for iFools Nokia & SE is humans

[din]

@ssk_the_gr8

The "Official" iPhone thread is already there in this section and it is "Exclusively" for listing the problems / shortcomings / issues / negative points. We are all discussing the battery replacement program and related issues already there.

So why diverting this thread to battery replacement issue ?

I posted some as you compared the rates (mobile phone rates) but now both the threads discuss same thing !!

[ssk_the_gr8]

ok so lets just stop posting in this thread & we will move to official iphone thread.. so this is the last post