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11-06-2007, 11:51 PM
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Safari coming to Windows.
Coming Soon, I knew El Jobso was saving the big thing for the last.
And oh iPhone will have AJAX apps too.
Its there, http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
Get it if you want. Be sure to check the middle windows flag, else you will get Quicktime forced as well.
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11-06-2007, 11:54 PM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
source?
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11-06-2007, 11:55 PM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
no source ?
if the new is true,now wht will be the reaction of mac boys here eh? LOL
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12-06-2007, 12:00 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
Yup it is coming, & looking at the track record of Apple Software on Windows & how good they make apps for Windows (read:Memory hogs) i can just laugh at them for porting safari to windows  . I mean we already have a memory hog here called firefox, & now another Apple Junk after resource hog iTunes & useless Quicktime player (Apple, for gods sake, make QT directshow for Windows)
Oh & Safari having AJAX application i good, i guess a web messenger like meebo isn't that far. But I wonder about the speed compared to a native application
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12-06-2007, 12:19 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
WOW, lets see what safari can do to my system... already its crawlling , now my PC will run at snails pace  . OPERA RULES
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12-06-2007, 12:22 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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I have put on the screenshot, of the Apple WWDC Webcast (Sorry for the delay) from macrumourslive.com, so source can either be Steve or Macrumourslive
As for apple apps for windows being memory hogs, gx, totally agree man.
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12-06-2007, 12:29 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
Are they just need to hire some WPF developers to make safari Vista-ish
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12-06-2007, 12:36 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
a crappy browser  now every1 will try if something goes wrong its MS fault apple's software cant have any fault
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12-06-2007, 12:36 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
^^ hmmm speaking vista-ish... I have never tried to install iTunes on vista.. has ony one done it ??? How does it look .. same as XP or is there any eyecandy effects??
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12-06-2007, 12:36 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
Talk about memory hogging...64MB RAM for just 1 website here on XP!!! And while installing uncheck bonjour service. It does no good and is another memory hogger useless service!!
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12-06-2007, 12:38 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
Classic gx. Not even used it but already started hammering it.
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12-06-2007, 12:38 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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^^ hmmm speaking vista-ish... I have never tried to install iTunes on vista.. has ony one done it ??? How does it look .. same as XP or is there any eyecandy effects
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no difference it has the default itunes look ... jaisa it looks on xp
coming back to the opic ... finally jobs has realised that if he wants to survive and get some part of the pie he has to start offering his stuff on windows based machines and windows...
first it was itunes for ipod on windows
then the switch to intel based systems so that windows can run on macs
then this ... its a bigger picture jobs has finally realised
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12-06-2007, 12:52 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
^^^ Yuck .. WPF Rocks  .. ..
PS: OMG ... Sorry guys .. i diverted from the topic.
LOL Just installed in one of my collegues system and it crashed
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12-06-2007, 01:10 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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12-06-2007, 01:24 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
Its a memhog .
About 50 MB of RAM with one single tab open

Though seems to have nifty, predictive URL completion feature, that's slick. There are some problems with Bookmarks menu, though, cant show imported marks properly.
First impression - Beta, goes out, uninstalled in like 10 minutes. Not giving a retry till final release, and I put more RAM in laptop. FFx is enuf of a RAM eater for me as of now.
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12-06-2007, 01:39 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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Classic gx. Not even used it but already started hammering it.
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Lolz...I am posting from Safari 3 beta for Mac right now. Got the Windows version downloaded. Oh & about bashing it....navjot just gave prove.
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Talk about memory hogging...64MB RAM for just 1 website here on XP!!! And while installing uncheck bonjour service. It does no good and is another memory hogger useless service!!
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First impression - Beta, goes out, uninstalled in like 10 minutes. Not giving a retry till final release, and I put more RAM in laptop. FFx is enuf of a RAM eater for me as of now.
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Goobi, you got Vista on a PC, plz run it yourself & post a screenshot here for Memory usage.
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LOL Just installed in one of my collegues system and it crashed
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Don't worry, it is beta. Plz submit the bug  .
Higher Memory usage is expected cos it is beta software & memory leaks are not yet fixed
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12-06-2007, 01:40 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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12-06-2007, 02:18 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
Oh...k, now using Safari for Windows. Apple really doesn't know how to make applications for Windows. Writing this post from Safari for Windows.
1) I doubt if they compiled it using GDI  . this is how it hanged while loading apple.com & when I resized it.
2) You cannot customise the toolbar at all. You cannot add buttons to open a new tab or new Window from the toolbar. Either use the file menu or keyboard shortcut of ctrl+T or ctrl+N
3) It is compiled using Visual Studio 2005 I think, cos it is using VC++ 8.0 dll files. It loads very fast
4) Pages render & open very slow. Even IE 7 is fast.
5) No Adblock or extension support. Safari Mac plugins do not work in Windows. Oh well, Windows has Ad muncher 
6) Memory & resource hog. 90 MB when opening Apple.com in one window only & 123 MB when opening 2 windows.
This is my screenshot.

This is a screenshot I saw at neowin.
7) You cannot cycle throguh tabs using ctrl+tab
8 ) It scrolls one line at a time. gr8
9) The window behavior isn't correct. Minimizing the window then restoring it should return it to the maximized state I had it at before minimizing. Instead, it opens to a non maximized size.
Apple, for gods sake this is Windows. Use some UI elements from Windows, don't slap your Mac UI here, it looks horrible. Why can't apple use WPF for iTunes, Quicktime & Safari.
Goobi, I urge you to try it on Vista. i don't bash Apple if they don't deserve bashing.
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12-06-2007, 06:42 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
am gonna try it today night....  , i dont mind 123 mb usage , i got 2g ram...:-P.
anyways i have my trusted firefox, IE and opera as backup, in case i dont like it...:-P
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12-06-2007, 09:15 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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i don't bash Apple if they don't deserve bashing.
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Congratulations! You just (inadvertently, I am sure) posted the funniest statement in the world.  Ha! Ha!
I do agree that Safari on Windows is the worst decision ever.
BTW, here's a quick tip for the people who try out Safari. You can type 'apple/getamac/ads' in the address bar to go to 'http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/index.html'. It automatically inserts 'http://www.' and '.com'.
Thanks for a good laugh, BTW.
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12-06-2007, 09:55 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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BTW, here's a quick tip for the people who try out Safari. You can type 'apple/getamac/ads' in the address bar to go to 'http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/index.html'. It automatically inserts 'http://www.' and '.com'.
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Here is a quicktip for Other OS users. Try doing the same in Firefox & Opera. Already working.
Address bar completion is only for those previously entered addresses.
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12-06-2007, 10:19 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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Originally Posted by Rohit
First impression - Beta, goes out, uninstalled in like 10 minutes. Not giving a retry till final release, and I put more RAM in laptop. FFx is enuf of a RAM eater for me as of now.
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GX its Mohit not Rohit!, you see.
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5) No Adblock or extension support. Safari Mac plugins do not work in Windows. Oh well, Windows has Ad muncher 
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Is there any free alternative to admuncher, except AdBlock in FFx, like something that uses AdBlock lists for providing systemwide protection.
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12-06-2007, 10:22 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
Sorry Mohit bro
Nope I don't think so there is any alternative to Ad Muncher
Hey arya, shouldn't you sig change now
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12-06-2007, 10:24 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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Here is a quicktip for Other OS users. Try doing the same in Firefox & Opera. Already working.
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No, it won't. Stop misleading people.
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12-06-2007, 10:43 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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12-06-2007, 11:26 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
I found a really cool thing in this new version of Safari. It now supports search-as-you-type and has a really cool way of showing it.
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12-06-2007, 11:29 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
Too heavy on resources... Better than IE6 but cant match OPERA.....
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12-06-2007, 11:37 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
slow.ff is better.
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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Too heavy on resources... Better than IE6 but cant match OPERA.....
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Of course it can't. Opera is the best web browser in the World. I would have been using it myself if it had a decent Mac version.
I still do keep it around for those rare websites that demand Internet Explorer (I know only one yet, the BSNL DataOne portal). Opera bashers' prime argument against it is that it is not compatible with many websites and I use it if I ever face compatibility issues with Safari. LOL! What an irony!
As for being better than Internet Explorer (even version 7) - well, if any developer claims that he has written a web browser, you can automatically assume that it is better than Internet Explorer.
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12-06-2007, 11:50 AM
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Re: Safari coming to Windows.
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And oh iPhone will have AJAX apps too.
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as for this... i suppose the AJAX apps ll run in the safari browser???
Then all advanced browsers ll support the AJAX apps on ny platform.. not only iPhone
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