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Old 25-05-2007, 01:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Arguably two of America's best run companies are Apple Inc (NASDAQ: AAPL) and International Business Machines (NYSE: IBM). Both have achieved high levels of success and shareholders have been rewarded along the way. However, both are treading in different waters and Apple is emerging as the winner going forward. In fact, I'm sure Apple will overtake IBM in value over the next two years. Bottom line: Apple will be bigger than IBM.



Apple will be a bigger company than IBM in terms of market capitalization. As of this writing Apple is just about to hit $100 billion in market cap while IBM is at $158 billion. The direction of both companies are at a variance to each other and Apple is certainly enjoying the strength of a major product cycle. My estimates for IBM for 2007/2008 revenues and earnings per share are $93 billion and $6.80 and $99 billion and $7.65 respectively. My estimates for Apple call for revenues of $24 billion and $3.52 and $29.5 billion and $4.05. So why is Apple going to be bigger than IBM?
IBM is experiencing a slow to moderate growth phase in its development. The global computer and related services giant has an excellent reputation among its customer-base: well deserved. But IBM is stuck in the phase of 3-4% top line growth, defending its turf from erstwhile competitors and few new products in its pipeline. The upgrades to current products is always there, but it is factored into the revenue mix. An aggressive share buyback program and a recently raised dividend will keep IBM's stock value fairly elevated.


Apple, although only about one-fourth the size of IBM in revenue terms, is growing aggressively. The marketplace will, and has rewarded that aggressive growth by lifting the shares nearly $50 these past two years. But Apple is just beginning. The iPod and iTunes store have captured the consumer world by storm. Apple recently announced its 100 millionth iPod sale and iTunes has delivered over 2.5 billion downloads ... both stunning numbers but still so much more to capture. The iPod (or MP3 market) is a growing market in its own right and Apple has the win-win situation: market share dominance in a growing market. Couple this with the launch of the iPhone next month and Apple's dominance is bound to continue. Although the company is taking a conservative posture in terms of units expected to sell between launch date and the end of 2008, the earnings expectations will go higher for 2008. Apple intelligently is not letting Wall Street analysts run rabid with the numbers especially since Apple will recognize iPhone revenues ratable over a 24-month period. This will set up a huge deferred revenue line on the balance sheet, again music to investors ears. Apple has the advantage over IBM with the powerful retail distribution stores now numbered at 177. Apple controls the entire consumer transaction in the stores, from basic Macs, iPods, etc., right down to the peripherals and software.The Mac has been generating excitement and market share gains as well as the CPU units Apple recently upgraded.
Apple wins the margin game as well. IBM's operating margins are stuck in the 13-14% range, healthy and envied by other hardware makers, but Apple's operating margins are driving north of 20%. That type of operating margin for a "hardware maker" is mouth-watering and again music to investors ears.


With top line and bottom line growth at 20%+, higher and sustainable operating margins, major new product cycle and a strong-controlled distribution system, I feel that Apple will hit the magical $200 billion market capitalization number before IBM does and IBM currently has a $50 billion+ lead in the race.


Apple may never top IBM in overall revenues but with all the other factors working in its favor, Apple shareholders should be far happier than IBM's.
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Old 25-05-2007, 01:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Apple will be bigger than IBM

Just have one thing :

Companies most grow in Arithmetic Progression and not Gemometric Progression .

So if a company is say $2 Mn in size n next year it size increases to $3 MN then growth rate would be 50% but they probably won't be able to support the 50% growth rate , so say when size becomes $ 50 MN n then size increases to $55 Mn growth rate wil be Very less(10%) although growth in terms of Capital will be high . . That's y startups have high growth rates .

btw :

Arithmetic Progression is like 0,2,4,6,8,10,...
Here next elemt is obtained by adding something to previous element .

Geometric Progression is like 1,2,4,8,16,32,....
Here next element is obtained by Multiplying something to previous element .
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Apple bigger then IBM, you must be joking right.

50% of the world servers run on IBM CPU, Apple was using IBM CPU , Big Blue has all 3 major gaming console CPU's in there pocket, they are the most technically innovating company out there.
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Poof! The great Super power house being compared with dumb Apple machines.
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its like linux will over power windows
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^^ Yes it must.otherwise who will curb the growth of monopoly M$FT?
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Apple bigger then IBM, you must be joking right.

50% of the world servers run on IBM CPU, Apple was using IBM CPU , Big Blue has all 3 major gaming console CPU's in there pocket, they are the most technically innovating company out there.
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U fanboys are so wise owl... Don't even know the difference between market cap and revenue..
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U fanboys are so wise owl... Don't even know the difference between market cap and revenue..
and someone's a B.Com. student here.
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Market Capitalization is too complex a term to be discussed on this forum.
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