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Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
Aw snap. Just when you thought the Microsoft / open-source relationship was getting bad, it’s now getting even worse, as yet another turn has been taken in the on-again, off-again love affair between the two. Soon after Microsoft’s General Counsel claimed that free and open-source software (FOSS) — a bundle of which related to Linux — violated precisely 235 of its patents,
Linus Torvalds decided to fire back on behalf of the little guy. In an interview with InformationWeek, Mr. Torvalds retorted by suggesting that it is actually “a lot more likely that Microsoft violates patents than Linux does,” and even noted that if “the source code for Windows could be subjected to the same critical review that Linux has been, Microsoft would find itself in violation of patents held by other companies.” Of course, he backed his statements by stating that the “fundamental stuff was done about half a century ago and has long, long since lost any patent protection,” and closed things up by insinuating that Redmond should put its cards on the table so that Linux users prove ‘em wrong, or better yet, “code around whatever silly things they claim.” As if you couldn’t tell, them’s fightin’ words, folks.
Source: http://www.technoworld.uni.cc/linux/...up-or-shut-up/
Please give credit to original authors instead of giving url of your own forum.
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19-05-2007, 11:41 AM
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
This would be interesting fight!
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19-05-2007, 11:52 AM
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
WTH, one source redirecting to another source
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19-05-2007, 12:11 PM
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WTH, one source redirecting to another source 
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19-05-2007, 12:46 PM
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
There was a "read more" or "full story" like link on that page, they removed it I guess, which linked to technoworld and then from there to idm.net and FINALLY I read the full article!!
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19-05-2007, 01:10 PM
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19-05-2007, 01:17 PM
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
Woo! NIce site. Don't mind, But I think I have seen that design of that site on various other sites!!
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19-05-2007, 01:20 PM
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Woo! NIce site. Don't mind, But I think I have seen that design of that site on various other sites!! 
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May be. It is not my design!!!!  it is a PHP-script by Fransisco Burzi i.e. PHP-Nuke devel. So it is a theme.
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19-05-2007, 02:33 PM
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hehe! Cool
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21-05-2007, 10:30 AM
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
Microsoft has no right to say that Linux violates it's patents. i think that MS is being very high handed. Nice reaction Torvalds...
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21-05-2007, 12:26 PM
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Microsoft has no right to say that Linux violates it's patents. i think that MS is being very high handed. Nice reaction Torvalds...
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Yes. Right. MS is sayin that linux violates its patents. But do you know one thing about Our Much loved windows (not me. i m a linux clone), is not a complete product from MS. In reality Windows is a copied and modified code of unix or apple (Sorry i dont remeber). Probably a copy of unix when it was distributed for free! It is the reality guys.
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21-05-2007, 12:49 PM
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
M$ again FUDing
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Microsoft has no right to say that Linux violates it's patents. i think that MS is being very high handed. Nice reaction Torvalds...
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Actually They have every right, Just like I have every right to say that I built Qutub Minar, Its called Freedom of Speech and expression.
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21-05-2007, 02:30 PM
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Actually They have every right, Just like I have every right to say that I built Qutub Minar, Its called Freedom of Speech and expression. 
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Ok you say that u hv built the Qutub Minar. Then why in all history books it is not written that Qutub Minar was built by "kumarohit"
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21-05-2007, 02:30 PM
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
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Yes. Right. MS is sayin that linux violates its patents. But do you know one thing about Our Much loved windows (not me. i m a linux clone), is not a complete product from MS. In reality Windows is a copied and modified code of unix or apple (Sorry i dont remeber). Probably a copy of unix when it was distributed for free! It is the reality guys.
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You just won the "Comedian of the year award"
MS came up with there own kernel for WIndows 95 & NT.
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21-05-2007, 02:31 PM
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You just won the "Comedian of the year award"
MS came up with there own kernel for WIndows 95 & NT.
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Hey buddy. It is not a joke. My dad told me that thing!
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21-05-2007, 02:45 PM
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
^^^^^ well, you should search on the net then to confirm yourself. This is not the case.
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21-05-2007, 03:03 PM
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^^^^^ well, you should search on the net then to confirm yourself. This is not the case.
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Leave it. What i want to do by knowing who invented windows or how was it invented. I am a linux clone. So i don't need to know that.
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
Then without getting the facts right, don't speak of something.
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21-05-2007, 03:17 PM
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Leave it. What i want to do by knowing who invented windows or how was it invented. I am a linux clone. So i don't need to know that. 
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so what's your name Linux Clone ? CLonux
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21-05-2007, 03:54 PM
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so what's your name Linux Clone ? CLonux 
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Well your question made me LOT POT! But i won't tell my name as i am "The Unknown" My name is known to only selected people.
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21-05-2007, 11:18 PM
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Ok you say that u hv built the Qutub Minar. Then why in all history books it is not written that Qutub Minar was built by "kumarohit" 
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History books also have freedom of speech and expression, Dont they
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21-05-2007, 11:58 PM
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Actually They have every right, Just like I have every right to say that I built Qutub Minar, Its called Freedom of Speech and expression. 
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Umm.. Then we also have a fundamental right.. to ignore your posts
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
Oh oh...now that Mohit is playing Steve Ballmer...can I play Brad Smith and say that Mohit built Qutub Minar 235 years before Qutb-ud Din Aybak?
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
Hey Eddie I was joking and ridiculing MS, Just FYI I am not at all a fanboy so I take pride in ridiculing anything that is ridiculous, be it, with MS, Apple, FLOSS overzealots and if need be even Digit.
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Hey Eddie I was joking and ridiculing MS, Just FYI I am not at all a fanboy so I take pride in ridiculing anything that is ridiculous, be it, with MS, Apple, FLOSS overzealots and if need be even Digit.
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hahahaha
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Hey Eddie I was joking and ridiculing MS, Just FYI I am not at all a fanboy so I take pride in ridiculing anything that is ridiculous, be it, with MS, Apple, FLOSS overzealots and if need be even Digit.
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Arre I know you were joking and so was I. Do you think I would want to become Brad Smith in real life?
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
Who is Brad Smith anyway
Please dont point me to Wikipedia (there is a disambiguation page), I want to know wat you think abt the person (or thing or whatever it is).
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Re: Linus Torvalds to Microsoft: put up or shut up
Brad Smith is Microsoft's SVP, General Counsel and CS who recently claimed that Linux infringes 235 of Microsoft's patents. A pathetic liar in my book...
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Brad Smith is Microsoft's SVP, General Counsel and CS who recently claimed that Linux infringes 235 of Microsoft's patents. A pathetic liar in my book...
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Is it not Steve Ballmer who says the patent saying?
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