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yes i'd like to read the whole article too ,i dont agree to the ease of use marks .
Although i am a maxthon user , but i tried out both opera and ff . opera IMO is better than FF. Although i'll be moving back to maxthon when maxthon 2 is out of beta.
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Ten years ago, in the midst of the socalled Browser War, a federal judge dealt Microsoft a serious setback. The judge ruled that Microsoft could not require computer manufacturers to bundle Internet Explorer, the company’s up-andcoming Web browser, with its operating systems. The ruling aimed to prevent Microsoft from using Windows as a means of monopolizing other software markets, and it ostensibly gave other browser developers a better chance at competing with IE. At least, that was the idea. As everyone knows, the Browser War quickly turned into a browser rout. Internet Explorer went on to capture—and continues to hold—a staggering 85% of the browser market. Alternatives to IE exist, but they fly so far under the radar that most users simply ignore them. After all, why should anyone change when the browser that comes bundled with most PCs works so well already? We set out to see if we could come up with a good answer to that question. In this month’s roundup, we looked at the latest editions of several free browsers to see which one offers the best surfing experience. Internet Explorer 7 The biggest name in browsers recently enjoyed a makeover. Whether long-time users of IE will enjoy the results remains to be seen. Getting the browser is not a problem for anyone running Windows XP SP2 (Service Pack 2) or later. Internet Explorer 7 is posted as a high-priority Windows update for effortless downloading. The installation itself requires both a Windows validation test—the browser will not run on a pirated OS (operating system)—and a system reboot, but otherwise proceeds as expected. What users may not expect, however, is the heavily remodeled interface. IE7 bears little resemblance to its predecessor, and that’s a major strike against it in our opinion. Everything has changed. We had to reacquaint ourselves with the Back arrow and the Favorites folder. We had to relearn how to save pages and open menus. And the most frustrating thing about it is that the new way of doing things is no faster or easier than the old. It’s just different. Why software developers think they have to reinvent the most basic tasks with each new release is something we will never understand. We appreciated at least one change. The ever-present Search field, tucked neatly out of the way in the upper-right corner, is a beneficial addition that essentially renders the third-party add-on toolbar obsolete. Many users will like the tabbed browsing feature, although we prefer to deal with a second—or third—browser window instead (windows, unlike tabs, respond to the ALT-TAB toggle command). The RSS (Really Simple Syndication; format for transmitting content directly and automatically to particular computers) reader may appeal to users who like to pull in streaming Webcasts but will likely prove meaningless to everyone else, and the antiphishing shield adds a thin layer of added security at the expense of slower surfing. Microsoft also endowed the browser with an advanced Print function that automatically compresses a page’s content to fit on a single sheet of paper. That sounds good, but we suspect the new feature was responsible for locking up the browser when we tried to print complex information from an online banking site. After using IE7 for a couple of days, we had regained our surfing prowess and forgotten— more or less—about IE6. That’s what Microsoft is banking on. Indeed, the company has maintained its stranglehold on the browser market for so long because it has always been easier to stick with Internet Explorer than to get rid of it. But not any more. The amount of pointless (in our opinion) retraining required to master the new browser will undoubtedly give some longtime IE users ample incentive to finally make a switch to a new browser. We wouldn’t blame them a bit. Firefox 2 The biggest threat—if one can call a fly on a lion a threat—to IE at the present time is this second-generation browser from Mozilla, a nonprofit organization devoted to open-source software development. Since its initial release in November 2004, Firefox has gained a loyal following, and Microsoft’s share of the browser market has slipped slowly but steadily. Firefox certainly makes a good first impression. The no-validation-or-reboot-required installation is over within minutes. Better yet, it automatically imports a user’s relevant personal settings from IE, including the preferred home page and the contents of the Favorites folder, so that Firefox is ready for action as soon as it pops up on-screen. The menus and icons also conform to traditional browser design theory so first-time users will have no trouble finding their way around the interface. Firefox boasts all of the expected features, including tabbed browsing, support for RSS feeds, and an integrated search tool. It also offers automatically updated bookmarks, spell checking, and smart searching. The most impressive new feature, however, has to be Session Restore, which helps users recover quickly from surfing interruptions. It does so by automatically opening the most recently viewed Web page (or pages) the first time the browser is opened after closing or restarting unexpectedly. It also can recover partially completed forms and resumedisrupted downloads. As a result, a browser shutdown does not mean lost productivity. The feature remains dormant when the browser is shut down properly. Then there are the security features. Firefox boasts an antiphishing monitor, pop-up blocking, and built-in spyware protection, none of which seemed to slow down our surfing like IE7’s antiphishing shield did. The browser also allows automatic updating, which means users can get the latest security updates as soon as someone in the open source community has identified a weakness and fixed it. The open source community also provides support for the product. Users can get help by perusing the online knowledge base, posting questions on a message board, or joining a chat room. But they cannot call a toll-free number to talk to a support representative, even for a fee (as they can with Microsoft and Netscape). It’s hard to find anything else to complain about. The latest version of Firefox offers users a pleasant browsing experience and the rare opportunity to use a product that actually beats its Microsoft counterpart. Opera 9 Dating back to 1994, Opera has built a loyal—but small—following. The latest edition is sure to keep the browser’s fans quite happy but is unlikely to win many converts. Opera delivers most of the expected features, such as tabbed browsing, password management, and pop-up blocking. It even boasts a few unexpected features, such as voice activation and a recycle bin for recovering tabs that were closed accidentally. But it’s missing some of the latest capabilities, including support for RSS feeds and antiphishing protection. We also wish it would have imported our existing IE settings automatically instead of demanding that we import them manually. But our biggest complaint involves the browser’s unique interface. First-time Opera users may find themselves fumbling around for a bit until they’ve acquainted themselves with its particular idiosyncrasies. Take the Rewind and Fast Forward buttons, for instance. These navigational aids complement traditional Back and Forward buttons by directing traffic to the pages that Opera predicts the user will want to visit—such as the most recently visited unique Web address or the next page of search results—instead of the immediately adjacent pages. The browser also loads by default without the expected Save, Print, or Home icons, although users easily can add these shortcuts to the toolbar. Such peculiarities should be expected from a browser that was developed by a couple of Norwegian telecom engineers and not descended from the original Mosaic browser (as IE, Netscape, and Firefox are). Users who stick with Opera will learn to appreciate its unique features. We just wonder how many users are willing to make that effort. Netscape 8.1 Few if any computer programs have suffered like Netscape. At one point, the browser had secured 90% of the market and was virtually synonymous with the World Wide Web. Today, fewer than 1% of all cybersurfers use the browser regularly. Nevertheless, it remains a viable surfing alternative for old-school computer users who want to revel in the past. Not to say the browser hasn’t aged well. The latest version of Netscape sports all the bells and whistles, including support for RSS feeds, tabbed browsing, and password management. We liked the Security Center, which provides real-time protection against spyware, adware, phishing, and pop-ups. We also appreciated the MultiBar, which allows users to create as many as 10 customizable toolbars for one-click access to desired content. Otherwise, Netscape 8.1 resembles its predecessors, so anyone with browser experience will feel comfortable using the interface right away. We had a few complaints about the installation. Our first attempts at running the installer failed, and we had to perform the download again in order to load the program on our PC. We also felt that the installation was unnecessarily complex, asking us to verify our proxy server configuration and requiring us to opt out of reporting usage statistics. We were glad it gave us the option of automatically importing our bookmarks, passwords, and other personal settings from other browsers. However, it appeared that these personal settings were the reason the browser loaded so slowly. We found ourselves waiting a few seconds each time we launched it. That’s not good. Surf Up A Web browser is always one of the most active programs on a PC. After testing the popular products available, we believe the latest version of Firefox offers the best combination of usability and functionality. That’s why we gave it our Smart Choice designation. Does that mean you should switch browsers, or that IE will suddenly go the way of Netscape? Not at all. All of the browsers featured in this roundup provide a pleasurable user experience, and whichever one you have is sure to keep you happy. However, it may be worth considering the options. You never know what you might find.
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the article is from a popular computer magazine.. http://www.smartcomputing.com/
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I think this type of TESTS arent justified...Coz Opera comes loaded with all features like mouse gestures..etc etc(you know all the features).. But firefox have addons to achieve same tasks... Though firefox is easy to use with all features loaded.. ONLY ONCE ADDONS ARE INSTALLED..but how many normal users bother to download the addons.. They just use stock browser.
So BROWSER TESTS like this are not correct. Everybody has got their own taste...let them choose between Firefox and Opera..[No question of IE here...every body know it SUCKS!!!!!~~>Not same in case of Maxthon]
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LOL! The most laughable and biased browser shoot-out I have ever seen. Basically, what he wants to show is that Firefox is the best and the rest do not matter. How else can one explain Internet Explorer getting the same rating as Opera (even if we accept for a second that Firefox is indeed better than Opera, which it is not)?
I am absolutely in agreement with Indyan here. Most of the cool features you see in web browsers today were introduced be Opera and it still has the best execution of most of the features. For example: tabs, sessions, mouse gestures, voice, RSS, trash, continue from last time, address bar search, skins, email, chat... I am sure there are more.
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I too agree that the review is very biased towards Firefox... Opera has as many if not more features than Firefox and certainly more features than IE7/IE7... Also, considering that IE has had a very user-friendly interface for ages, saying that ease of use is 3 for it is ridiculous... Personally, I would rate IE7 5 and FFx and Opera 4 in the Ease of Use table... Next, for Installation, Firefox gets a 5 out of 5... But considering that for most people, they would need to add extensions to get all the features they desire, we have to consider that the installation process should consider download and set up of the extensions... If you already have the extensions ready, it is one thing... But for a first-timer, you have to go to the website and download extensions... I think that when viewed with that perspective, Firefox installation should be rated 3 max... Finally, in support, I am not sure about the details, so I will not comment on it...
But these are not the only criteria that we should be looking at, should we... Here are a few more points to ponder... What about security? Clearly, Opera will be much better than IE7 and Firefox based on the number of vulnerabilities reported, etc... Even if this is because IE7 is the most targeted by hackers and that Firefox is open-source allowing easier detection of vulnerabilities, this is an important factor to be considered. Then, what about page rendering? Even though Opera and Firefox are better in compatibility with standards, IE will have an upper hand because pages are often tested only on this browser and therefore, may not always render properly on other browsers... There are many browser choices available if you count the third party IE-based browsers such as Maxthon, Slim Browser, etc... Personally, I use Opera as my main browser and have Slimbrowser as my backup for websites that may not render well in Opera... I tried Firefox, but was very hassled with managing extensions... Arun |
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Firefox had a built-in spyware protection?? I did not know that!! LOL
and Opera does not have Rss Reader and Anti Phishing? Which build is he talking about? And what kind of a techie is he who says that just because the shortcuts are not shown on the toolbar, it means that those options have not been loaded by default?? HUH Quote:
Talking of features, where is the mention about fast forwarding in opera and so many "Firsts"? I am not even gonna read it in detail, simple crap!!
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And even if they don't, both Firefox and Opera are hundred percent compatible with sites optimised for Internet Explorer. I have yet to come across a single website that does not open or render well in Opera apart from that stupid DataOne portal. And the only sites that are incompatible are the ones that use ActiveX controls. Well, ActiveX controls are on the way out anyway. And it is highly recommended not to visit websites that use ActiveX controls. In each of those fields, both Firefox and Opera are better than Internet Explorer. There is absolutely nothing about IE that is better than Opera or Firefox.
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NO it sint true.. you can open my site and In firefox and its displayed as i also cant say whats this...
try it : www.thecomputernext.bravehost.com
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So if your preferd browser doesn't wins the test, the review is biased...
ya right
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^^ True.
btw, firefox screwes the font style and formatting of my site , while opera/IE keep it intact. Chk this www.mskota.com on firefox and other browsers. Firefox not only screwes up hindi font(i have solution for that on site) but the font spacing and thickness is all changed in ff.
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I use firefox-2.0.0.2.The fonts are rendered much better than Opera for that matter.I use Debian GNU/Linux Sid and pango support is just developing well.uses a unicode font-Lohit-hindi;not the one win32 user use. just FYI i am posting a screenshot of the page: ![]()
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War on Browsers agaion.
Can someone point anybody who dumed Opera for other browser. But vice-versa would be "sun rises in east" thing.
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He cannot, or will not, read anything against Microsoft. It does not matter that every person in this thread, even the Firefox supporters, are saying that the review is very biased. If it says something in support of Internet Explorer - and frankly, saying that IE is as good as Opera is giving it a great honour - then it is a perfect review.
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Was this an article or a joke? BTW, opera has open, save and print icons. You just need to open Main Bar. I wonder if that person used opera for more than 5 mins before shooting off his mouth.
Many of the points are just ridiculous. Quote:
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+1 (for both points)
Actually, he didn't even need to actually use it. All he had to do was read the features page and look at the screenshots.
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Opera +999
It still has more features built in then FF n IE7. Also most of these so called features were Opera`s innovations which FF n IE7 just copied. read this>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature..._Opera_Browser Also Opera is the most secure browser of the 4 reviewed Security Quote:
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I use both FF2 and Opera9.... both'o them roks... but most of the time I use FF2 by default as I am more habituated to it !!! Interesting to say that Opera was the first browser that I preferred over suckin IE4 !!!!
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I wouldnt blame the reviewer/author, I would put the blame on the magazine for employing people who dont have the required aptitude and dont care to research their topics accurately and throughly enough
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These are the screenshots of the site on different browsers : IE7 : Renders perfectly. ![]() Opera : Flawless ![]() Firefox : screenshot after the fix ![]() As you can see even after the (greasemonkey script) fix the page renders very differently.Firefox browser breaks the hindi text when formatting rules for text on page are set for letter spacing ,word spacing or justify. The greasemonkey script removes all this formating on the page, and due to this fix all the formating is disturbed for the sake of displaying the text perfectly. one question btw , how do i get clear type renderting of text in firefox , the non smooth text looks ugly on every site in ff. I have ff 2.0. Steeting the fonts to clear type from windows setting does not fix the problem.
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Read my statement again, where did i take the name of MS or IE 7 here?
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@gx_saurav,
In all four of your quoted statements, I cannot see anyone saying that you mentioned Microsoft or Internet Explorer 7.
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