Microsoft's “We Share Your Pain” Program

[trigger]

Remember the Windows error reporting screen? Apparently, it’s success has prompted Microsoft to adopt a whole new quality management program designed to allow its Windows programmers to share users’ pains. Hence the “We Share Your Pain” or WSYP program.

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[Arsenal_Gunners]

Error reporting was successful

[piyush gupta]

Ya Microsoft product is like a Pain

[kumarmohit]

The price for products frm MS is a pain.

[Kiran.dks]

If you think the Microsoft products are pain, don't use it. Simple. No point in singing the same old song.

[trigger]

^^^ Exactly..

[amitava82]

Surely we would have stopped USING MS products if other 3rd party manufacturers n developers (i.e., Hardware manufacturers n Game developers) start supporting alternative OS..

[anandk]

^ so y isnt that hapng

[planetcall]

@amitava82, your statement is worthless. 3rd party makes softwares for windows only because you use it. Not the other way round.

[mehulved]

Originally Posted by anandk

^ so y isnt that hapng

The money game.

[amitava82]

ya, its all about money honey. lemme put into this way: Normal users (or MS products users) are all living into a MS matrix. they just refuse to wake up from the dream. The DREAM that tells them "there is no alternative of MS products". And by this MS turns them into money making machine.. So if you refuse to use alternatives why do you think 3rd party should go for supporting them n loose money?

[anispace]

but afaik there r no alternatives. If i want to play the latest games, watch movies listen to mp3s etc. without any fuss i have to use windows. Even an expensive mac wont solve my PC gaming probs n linux wont even allow me to listen to mp3s out of the box.

so that leaves us only with Microsoft Windows. Its not the best but its the only 1 that does it all without the user having to bang his head on a wall.

[trigger]

^^^ +1...

[mediator]

Originally Posted by anispace

but afaik there r no alternatives. If i want to play the latest games, watch movies listen to mp3s etc. without any fuss i have to use windows. Even an expensive mac wont solve my PC gaming probs n linux wont even allow me to listen to mp3s out of the box.

so that leaves us only with Microsoft Windows. Its not the best but its the only 1 that does it all without the user having to bang his head on a wall.

U shudn't say anything like that having only one sided experience!

[kirangp]

The only area to be concerned is games...other than that all things can be done on other Operating Systems...Even very popular games r ported to Mac & Linux but still 95% have to be played on PC

[piyush gupta]

hey its about MS s/w

i love cracks of MS

i use them rare but i love it
see Vista after its arrival needs a service pack for working its too slow and hang up too much

[tarey_g]

Originally Posted by piyush619

see Vista after its arrival needs a service pack for working its too slow and hang up too much

I'll repeat what meditator said.

U shudn't say anything like that having only one sided experience!

[piyush gupta]

Originally Posted by tarey_g

I'll repeat what meditator said.

tarey_g its not what i said its what all users of Vista said

they all are waiting for SP1

[tarey_g]

Don't go on what ppl say , coz ppl say things just like you did and others believe it, then they post such stuff somewhere else to confuse even more ppl .
Even i am waiting for sp1, that does not mean the current state is bad. I am using vista rtm and it didn't hang/crash even a single time. Only one problem i had was that nvidia driver which 'sometimes' did not allow me play video on full screen, but its fixed noe with the new driver release. I am running vista with 512MB memory in which 16MB is shared for the onboard 6100.

[Arsenal_Gunners]

lol I am happy with my vista's performance

[shantanu]

i think M$ provided the basic computer usage to US.. when we learn the first A in computer fiels we know that computer is Windows.. Even every PC today comes up with Windows Xp... If we say M$ products are very Expensive .. this is because we know that we can get it in 50 -150 bucks in the market.. then why to buy and take pain for 4000-6000 for Xp and 4000- 16000 or 18000 for Vista...

If we would not have P1rated softwares then it would be a compulsary to buy a Original windows.... but today the moral is buy p1rated ans say genuine and crack the software and give loss to the company.. and then say that NO M$ PRODUCTS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE SO WE CANT BUY THEM THATS WHY WE GO FOR P1RATED

thats no reason to go for a p1rated software...

I think we should all buy genuine...

[amitava82]

Originally Posted by tarey_g

I am using vista rtm and it didn't hang/crash even a single time.

did u say u r using RTM..????

You know what? I'm very eagerly waiting for that day when by some means either by strong law (not they way its going in india) or technology, piracy will be stopped and you will be forced to buy a legal copy of OS. I wonder then you will be willing to pay $250 for OS for your $500 pc...

[mehulved]

Originally Posted by shantanu_webmaster

If we would not have P1rated softwares then it would be a compulsary to buy a Original windows.... but today the moral is buy p1rated ans say genuine and crack the software and give loss to the company.. and then say that NO M$ PRODUCTS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE SO WE CANT BUY THEM THATS WHY WE GO FOR P1RATED

What loss are you talking about? Last I heard, sale of windows accounted to around 20 or so % of MS's income and if you excluded corporate users from it, it fell to 5%. And for a company that makes a 'unethical profit' of greater than 1000% and revenue of over $40billion that is so measly amount. Here's their annual report http://www.microsoft.com/msft/report...0k_fr_fin.html
If you didn't know let me tell you there are a few of us commerce people out here. You can't give all this BS to us.

[amitava82]

Thanks for the link.. OMG look at the Operating expenses and operating income.. i dont know any other company makes such huge ratio of profit...

[alok4best]

Originally Posted by amitava82

. i dont know any other company makes such huge ratio of profit...

And thats all what busieness is all about.And to add they are good at it..

[shantanu]

@tech_your_future .. So you wanna Prove that Piracy is good and should go on... If this is so then there is no point in saying that Piracy its a crime... W should all say .. that yeah make 1000 copies of vista and Xp and all and distribute them all over coz Microsoft is having profits... DO piracy until the company goes in loss...

Thats not the thing...


and I am not giving this all to You or US (coz i am also an indian only) ..

I am just saying that people say that that How can US and UK people teach us Meaning oF piracy ,, what they did 60 years ago was what

i think its just another excuse to pirate everyday softwares....

Those who dont like or cant buy original must not use windows... they should use the OSS i think thats made for them... Pirating and using windows and then saying that NO M$ cheats us and all is simply RUBBISH...

and AS PER sales : What you think all that sold in INDIA... i will fetch the records and will show you what SOLD in INDIA... i think it would be .5 % as per PIRACY RATES...

The WHOLE THING CONCLUDES THAT PIRACY ISNT THE ANSWER TO EXPENSIVE SOFTWARES

[mediator]

Originally Posted by shantanu_webmaster

Pirating and using windows and then saying that NO M$ cheats us and all is simply RUBBISH.

And what if someone uses original windows products like office 2000,xp and windows xp and then saying "MS cheats us"?
I have been activating windows-xp on my machine only for the past 4 yrs. Now it says key not authentic or something like that on both windows xp and office xp. Mahn u dont even know how it feels when u have to use cracks to get ur own "original" product working!
R they hinting to buy the upgrade now?

[shantanu]

I know what you want to say !!! but that the license agreement that no one ever reads.. the software OEM can only be Activated for limited no. of times using that key... now you can call M$ and activate your product :

this is no.1800111100

+918040103000

and after pressing 1 for activation you can press 9 directly to talk to executive.. i think he will ask your product key at the end tell him your ORIGINAL product key and your windows will be activated...


i think you know the procedure of activating by phone

[mediator]

the software OEM can only be Activated for limited no. of times using that key

But wasn't that for activating on different machines?

And I know I can activate it by phone. But why shud I even bother to waste extra bucks in expensive calls like that everytime now? I know u'll justify it too somehow and that i shudn't be using cracks for that.
Thats y I feel now that people buying such thing shud "actually" read the agreement and terms!

[shantanu]

look !!! i said i understand your feeling.... and i wont justify anything.. coz you are correct... Dial the TOll FREE no.

joking but yes after purchasing the software we come to know that what it lacks and what it not...

but the thing isnt for that ...i ask you Do you think Piracy is good

thats the only thing i wanna know.. coz many cracked versions comes with heavily loaded no. of viruses and all types of SPYwares and all.. just that... a crack free envoirnment is what is needed...