Go Beyond Vista – It's Time to Get a Mac

[Third Eye]

Go beyond Vista? It's time to get a Mac? Well, Apple managed to take the anti-Windows marketing campaign one step further. In the aftermath of Windows Vista's commercial availability, Apple
has gone beyond the “Get a Mac” video commercials and even beyond the claims that Vista is ripping-off Mac OS X. Apple is now promoting Mac OS X as a superior offer to Vista.

Make no mistake about it. Apple is still “advancing the world's most advanced operating system”. And Apple will still be advancing the world's most advanced OS until the end of March. Meanwhile, Windows Vista is here. And you know what... go ahead, since it's time to get a Mac, get one. Just make sure that it is powered by Intel. Windows Vista runs excellent on Intel-based Macs.

You will be able to see examples of Apple's “Go beyond Vista” campaign in the company's stores. The clerks there have begun wearing the new anti-Vista uniform – T-shirts with pictures of an iMac and the “Go beyond Vista” motto. There are also stand-ups with the same message, only this time Apple is even advising: “It's time to get a Mac.”

Additionally, there have been complaints that Apple's Vista-mocking campaign has made its way into spam. In fact, Apple has begun spamming people with “Go beyond Vista” emails. Yes, that is a new “high” for Apple. I wonder what's next? Releasing Vista PoC exploits?

“Go beyond Vista. It's time to get a Mac. If you're thinking of upgrading to Vista, you'll probably need a new computer. Why not get a Mac? It's simpler, more secure, and way more fun. And it works with the stuff you already have, like printers and cameras. So before you upgrade anything, you owe it to yourself to check out a Mac.”

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[soham]

Everything about Apple is good except their ads.

[nagarjun_424]

I just decided to buy a mac based on Aryayush's advice. I looked at the mac at the apple store in forum and fell in love with it. Not that Im against Windows Vista. This means that I am neutral. I will be using both these operating systems in the Macbook that I will buy next week!

[47shailesh]

Very well said... But in india it's hard to adopt...it will take time

In my words "Agar hindustaniyo ko Nokia phone hi kharidna hai to Sony ericson chahe kuch bhi bana le hinsutani NOKIA hi karidega" ))

[sudhir_mangla]

MAc is releasing versions rather too quickly

[gxsaurav]

The problem with Apple or Mac is not their hardware. They have some of the most beautiful hardware designs out there. iMac G4 was a piece of art, but the real problem with Apple is their whining attitude, arrogance of macboys who think they are somewhat elite in computing, when they hardly know anything about computing or technology & their marketing strategy

[aryayush]

Oh, and you are never arrogant and never whine. Like in the post above.

[borg]

@GX
hmmm...as far as Apple is concerned, they will obviously try to promote their product & try to say that they are better than everyone else. I mean which company won't do that?. How many companies will say that the opposition is better?. I don't think your criticism of Apple is justified.

[aryayush]

Well, he wouldn't be gx_saurav if it were.

[amitava82]

i believe there is another thread for MAC VS Window$. so if u guys wanna fight then get lost from this thread n go there... this is not a place to fight.

[freebird]

Mac -does it have those 3D effects that Linux(compiz/beryl) and vista have..

[ssdivisiongermany1933]

Apple is good , but application and games are rather problem in Mac platform

[gxsaurav]

Originally Posted by aryayush

Oh, and you are never arrogant and never whine. Like in the post above.

yeah....i can understand, truth hurts macboys

(issued in forum interest)

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by freebird

Mac -does it have those 3D effects that Linux(compiz/beryl) and vista have..

Vista does not have anything 3D apart from Flip 3D.

Both Vista's interface and the effects and Beryl are heavily inspired from Mac OS X. Exposé, desktop cube, genie effect, dock, etc. are all features of the Mac platform.

[joey_182]

well i was impressed by mac..and yes its too good to play..yes only play..

coz for me xp is everything...

[rajasekharan]

if only we can install mac on amd systems with out loss of performance .

[aryayush]

Well, then there wouldn't be anything exclusive about it, would there? 8)
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Originally Posted by soham

Everything about Apple is good except their ads.

If you are talking about the latest 'Get a Mac' series, you need to get a sense of humour, man. They are so funny. Have you seen the latest ad titled 'Security'.
It is the funniest commercial ever. People download and watch these commercials.

And even apart from this series, Apple generally has the best commercials around. See this one. If that isn't funny as well as informative, I do not know what it.

[chesss]

I got a laptop installed with vista for 550$ ( Rs 24000) what will a Mac cost me?

[aryayush]

First hand? Original branded laptop?

Must be Vista Home Basic.

Post the company and specs.

[mehulved]

Originally Posted by aryayush

Both Vista's interface and the effects and Beryl are heavily inspired from Mac OS X. Exposé, desktop cube, genie effect, dock, etc. are all features of the Mac platform.

desktop cube is in mac?

[chesss]

First hand? Original branded laptop?

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satell.../dp/B000M8YU60
I didn't buy it from amazon though (got it in a deal )
it doesn't matter though, the thing is there is an option for something cheap.
Having said that I will love a mac (since it has unix and hence zsh in 'core'), only if I could it install mac on this..

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by tech_your_future

desktop cube is in mac?

Yes, it is. I am surprised you did not know that.
However, you cannot drag something from one side of the cube to the other... yet.
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Originally Posted by chesss

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satell.../dp/B000M8YU60
I didn't buy it from amazon though (got it in a deal )
it doesn't matter though, the thing is there is an option for something cheap.
Having said that I will love a mac (since it has unix and hence zsh in 'core'), only if I could it install mac on this..

Please answer these three questions:
1. Is it a first hand product?
2. Is it original and branded?
3. Which version of Vista was pre-installed? And was it legit?

[Aberforth]

Originally Posted by aryayush

First hand? Original branded laptop?

Must be Vista Home Basic.

Post the company and specs.

Could be. Laptops comes way cheaper in the US and Vista Home Basic can be preinstalled by the company, the cost is peanuts.

A friend of mine is an assembler in UK, using the OEM license hes been getting Vista Home Premium for 65 pounds per license.

[gxsaurav]

Vista home premium is about $100 & Ultimae edition is about $140, both OEM

Macs are just overprices PCs, it's been proved so many times....yet the mac users act blind

[borg]

desktop cube is in mac?

Yes, the effect where, the screen revolves as though it were a part of a cube, when a switch user is done. I think it appeared in Tiger...or maybe Panther. hmmm...Not sure though.

Macs are just overprices PCs

True, there was a time when Macs were vastly different from PCs. They had a different processor architecture, different I/O (Macs used ADB, while PCs had PS/2). But today, Macs are nothing but PCs (technically speaking). Ofcourse they are very well made PCs, but PCs none the less.

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

Macs are just overprices PCs, it's been proved so many times....yet the mac users act blind

Yada yada yada...
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Here's the shirt Apple Store employees are wearing nowadays:

Shirt front
Back

[Pathik]

BEST SOLN- Go LINUX..

There's one thing that makes apple products really "different". You don't have any hardware customization options, neither are there any upgrade options. Its like buying a phone- you want bigger screen then you will be smashed a faster processor in the face. Too bad if you are an enthusiastic.

Choosing a "unique" hardware configuration which is tailor made for you is a bliss. See, even PCs suffer from this phenomenon- people who are comfortable with computers like to get an assembled PC rather than a "company made". Heck if this was possible with laptops then I would have custom built one right now.

See, Macs really make you different, and isolated too. You have a Gamma value of 1.8 when the world follows 2.2, you use either a single button mouse or a 4 button mouse (As if first people used to press mouse button with palm and now they have learnt to use all 4 fingers. The thumb is still missing though )

You get no games for Macs and when you ask a Mac user how he/she can remain without games they have one common reply- I don't play much of the games.

Oh yeah! did I mention the Macs read different file system for optical discs (Why on earth do we have HFS then?)
Man! (or should there be a "c" ?) this is living in isolation. Get out of the well and look around. There's life beyond Apple.

[aryayush]

Another troll.

Originally Posted by SE><IE

You have a Gamma value of 1.8 when the world follows 2.2

It requires just four clicks from the desktop to change that to 2.2.

Originally Posted by SE><IE

you use either a single button mouse or a 4 button mouse (As if first people used to press mouse button with palm and now they have learnt to use all 4 fingers. The thumb is still missing though )

First of all, you can use any mouse from any company with any number of buttons with a Mac. Second, there are five buttons on the Mighty Mouse because the scroll ball is clickable too. Your thumb is already being used for the push button on the left side of the body. There have been two button mice in between too.

Originally Posted by SE><IE

You get no games for Macs and when you ask a Mac user how he/she can remain without games they have one common reply- I don't play much of the games.

Yes, that would be my reply because I never played games when I was on Windows too.
But there are many avid gamers among Mac users. Most of them will tell you about how easily they can install Windows and use that for gaming purposes. Plus, any gamer worth the salt does not game on a PC. They buy a console.

Originally Posted by SE><IE

Oh yeah! did I mention the Macs read different file system for optical discs (Why on earth do we have HFS then?)

Yes, you did and it would have been better if you hadn't. Just in case you did not know, Macs read HFS discs just fine.

Originally Posted by SE><IE

Man! (or should there be a "c" ?) this is living in isolation. Get out of the well and look around.

Yeah, all Mac users are damsels in distress, suffering in a hell-hole of isolation and waiting for a gallant PC user (with his hand picked and assembled machine) like yourself to rescue us from our pathetic state.

Thanks, but no thanks!

You know aryayush, I'm not against any Mac user for the matter. But I couldn't resist posting that thing. Regarding the gamma thing. Why does Apple make all Macs with 1.8 and then advice them to change to 2.2? Why not set it to 2.2 from factory itself?


See, I said "most common reply" is "I don't/Rarely play games". Well, nothing personal dude.

But there are many avid gamers among Mac users. Most of them will tell you about how easily they can install Windows and use that for gaming purposes.

Are you trying to cut your own point? Why would you install a "cheap piece of crap" when you can do anything on an Apple OS? Or do you mean Apple's OSes are no match for the "common peoples' OS"?

Plus, any gamer worth the salt does not game on a PC.

Oh really? Try playing any strategy game on a console

One more point, there are many things that say "Mac compatible" right?
Does it mean they were originally built keeping PC users in mind?

oh yeah! regarding that H(ybrid)FS, the name itself says its a file system so that both Mac and PC users can use the disc. If Apple decided to make PC disks readable then many a MBs would have been saved. Apple fans don't run away from this, even Linux uses the same file system for optical discs. Thats called society. Oh! sorry, ma bad, I just forgot Apple is "different"

PS: I'm not fighting over. If it were so then I would have very well posted in Fight-Club section. Just some drawbacks of owning a Mac that I felt like spilling here.

PSS:

Another troll.

Could have acted mature