Apple iPhone released

Ok, Apple has relesed iPhone (one lawsuit from Cisco coming up......)

Reminds me of Nokia 7610, but really better indeed, i like the no buttons feature. But what the hell is MacOS X doing there, didn't they learn anything from Symbian OS (slowness etc). Frimware based OS (sony, Motorola) are the best to go.

Though the design is good, now lets hope the price is also good. OLED insted of LCD would have been better for battery. It's just a novelty, they can't keep up relesing new models every 4 months. Sony & Nokia will beet it in Phone department soon, Apple just isn't made for Mobile Phones, the market is not like portable music market, they don't bring anything new to the scene, except for the mobile hardware. Touch screen has been there from ages

[iMav]

i aint buying a cell till i can afford tht .... i am saving from today rs.10/- per day

[mail2and]

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This is just amazing. This is the pinnacle of innovation.

And guys, there will be no lawsuits. The patent of the technologies used this phone is firmly with Apple.

[iMav]

^^but the name iphone .... none the less this is a slick peice of technology ... im gonna buy this or its successor 1 day .... guaran damn teed

[mail2and]

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Originally Posted by mAV3

^^but the name iphone

Don't you think a $65 billion company has enough legal brains to think of that? I'm sure there must have been an agreement with all concerned parties.


Also, this phone has got a light sensor, a proximity sensor, google maps, safari, widgets, mail, yahoo mail integration, google search, yahoo search integration, iphoto, music, videos, itunes, TV shows integration. Phew! And the list isn't complete!

[iMav]

arre andy forget the name yaar ... even if they change the name the product is only gonna get better ... im on ur side on this 1 till MS comes up with a worthy suitor

[mail2and]

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

Ok, Apple has relesed iPhone (one lawsuit from Cisco coming up......)

But what the hell is MacOS X doing there, didn't they learn anything from Symbian OS (slowness etc). Frimware based OS (sony, Motorola) are the best to go.

I suspect you're never heard of Palm Treo.

Touch screen has been there from ages

But, gestures haven't been there. Accidental touch protection hasn't been there. That is the reason they were granted the patent.

Current touchscreen technology is limited to Stylus pens in most phones.

Happy life, though.

as i m reading, more things are clearing up

The reason a stylus is used in Mobile phones or PDA is to prevent the screen from smudge & damages etc, Apple has touted a "a magic patented interface", but does it have a patented magic anti-fingerprint and smudge interface? Well, fingers are good, they are easily available (pun intended)...but comon, u can't write with a finger, or better yet, draw. It has MacOS X, so atleast i expect a paint like application there, the biggest feature of such touchscreen phones, & that too with out a pen(stylus) . U gotta be kidding me, there is not even an option for stylus so far.

No 3G, well ok, it's of no use in India anyway

SMS looks more like Chat. Well...donno whats the use of this feature, some might like it.

Originally Posted by From the webpage

So photos, SMS, and the phone app -- that is part of our phone package for iPhone. Really great call management, scroll through contacts with your finger, all the information at your fingertips. Favorites, last century [shows dialer], calendar, SMS texting, incredible photo app, the ability to take any picture and make it your wallpaper. I think you'll agree... we've reinvented the phone

Right, re-invented, apple just won't miss a chance to say it again & again. I guess i have these features from what, 2 years already in my K750i, or K700i/k500i before that. Comon....the most lame thing about Apple is their marketing

The E-Mail reading layout & feature is gr8 in looks, i have only read an email on a PDA once before in O2 XDA 2 atom.

Kudos to apple for the phone resolution. We had nvidia chips for mobile phones from a long time, already in W810i, but apple is the first one "I guess" with a 640X480 resolution based phone

They have safari, but then again, how to enter the website name in the address bar with fingers? well....atleast my fingers are big so 2 latters will press together. Internet browsing on mobile has been there also from ages, anyone remembers Opera for Mobile & Symbian, but then again...it's Apple, even an old feature is created by them when relesed by them

$499 & $599 , i would rather prefer a P910i with a real stylus & writing abilty which costs less then this. Though it will lack hard disk space compared to this iphone

[amitava82]

OH MY.......... This Phone is Drop Dead Gorgeous.. I'd kill to get one.. too bad Asia will get in 2008.

[iMav]

thrs is no phone which a 100% so u got to do with wat u get .... buy a natraj pencil sharpen it break the lead ... smoothen the edges and use it as the stylus

[mail2and]

Watch the quicktime trailer at www.apple.com/iphone and www.apple.com/iphone/ipod
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Originally Posted by amitava82

OH MY.......... This Phone is Drop Dead Gorgeous.. I'd kill to get one.. too bad Asia will get in 2008.

Gray markets are going to have a blast till 2008 :d

andy, i like the design of hardware but.....

1) no 3G, but then again, i don't care for that. But still technology from 2004 (EDGE), what were they thinking. 3G is not here in India, but it is there in US & Europe

2) Whats with Palm treo?

3) Google Maps is just a website based service which can be accessed on any Nokia Communicator or Sony P Series too

4) Mail & Yahoo Mail, well then again, nice features to have but nothing to say revolutionary. Mail capability was there even in my K500i, but yeah, the Mail reading layout of P800i (at that time) or P910i or this phone is better, well cos they are PDA Phones

5) Yahoo & Google Search, well....yeah, nothing new, already there via Opera in phones
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Originally Posted by mAV3

thrs is no phone which a 100% so u got to do with wat u get .... buy a natraj pencil sharpen it break the lead ... smoothen the edges and use it as the stylus

abe, 30K Ke phone ki M B eik nahi karni.....

Its a killer. But then it will show some familiar crap like itunes .

[iMav]

well i wud disagree with any 1 who says tht this fone brings something new ... i wud say it brings most of the features under the apple stlye .... which really is killer

the fone looks sexy .... the display is gonna be abssolutely rich (better than the ipod i guess which is really ricH)

then etting rid of the buttons is good ... though i agree with saurav on the stylus issue i had problems using my uncl's hp device without a stylus (it had 1 but i wanted to act smart)

and besides it just looks so slick

[nix]

wow...my next phone has gotta be this...i'm using a nokia 3315 and was waiting for a music phone from apple...

The only thing killer about this phone is the looks & the hardware design. U can't stare at it always, how good the touch screen keyboard is will be known only after using it with fingers. Like I said, apple really did a stupid job of not using a stylus

In the end it's a phone. Lets see how good it is as a phone

[mail2and]

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

2) Whats with Palm treo?
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Your lack of knowledge about PDA phones has been exposed. I would rather not comment on it.


Oh, and I see some one is desperate.

i said whats with palm treo "here". I have used it. No comments on using this phone as a phone so far from u? Don't tell me u want to "write" or draw with your finger, or have brush on your fingers to prevent it from dirt & smudges

Again, u got nothing else to say....so personal comments have started.

[iMav]

hell everyones desparate to get their hands on this device whther one likes it not is different but now im waiting for MS reply to this .... MS i assume will play the wait and watch game as these are testing waters for both apple and MS .... but i dont think this time MS will hav the excuse of coming into the market late

[mail2and]

Originally Posted by mAV3

hell everyones desparate to get their hands on this device whther one likes it not is different but now im waiting for MS reply to this .... MS i assume will play the wait and watch game as these are testing waters for both apple and MS .... but i dont think this time MS will hav the excuse of coming into the market late

Actually, this type of touchscreen technology has been patented by Apple. So, Microsoft will have to come up with another idea. They may make a similar UI, but the touchscreen would be the key.

If they implement stylus pen touchscreen, then it would lack innovation. They can't use iPhone style touchscreen, as it is patented. It will be a nice challenge for them.

I'd again like to clarify that Apple is not targeting Nokia or Motorola with this phone. Their main aim is the smartphone market, which is dominated by Palm.

Comparing iPhone's OS to Symbian is wrong. Its competition is more with Palm OS than Symbian, which is essentially a kiddie smartphone OS.

I would request members to view the iPhone presentations at www.apple.com/iphone. You would get more idea of this when you actually see that.

MS is already in the market in the form of Windows Mobile mav3

[iMav]

im waiting for a fone under the zune brand which ballmer has said will be coming some time .... and i agree with andy tht competing the touch screen will be difficult but u never know ....

and i think other than palm its gonna beat the living hell out of the p990i

[24online]

The 4GB iPhone will go out the door in the US as a Cingular exclusive for $499 on a two-year contract, 8GB for $599. Ships Stateside in June, Europe in fourth quarter, Asia in 2008.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/

Originally Posted by mail2and

If they implement stylus pen touchscreen, then it would lack innovation..

In what sence? finding 101 way to mess up the phone with your fingers

Here is a scenario today

me in mcdonalds having a burger, i get a call, i take out my K750i & take the call. The keypad is plastic & since my hands are dirty with sause & anything like that, only the keypad gets dirty & i can wipe it easily with hanky or not wipe it at all, it's a plastic keypad anyway

Here is a scenario after july 2007

me in mcdonalds having a buger, a phone comes, & i m using iPhone. I take out the phone, now, how to touch it? Tomato ketchup on the screen....ya right

@mav3
Zune brand phone...hmm.....how the hell u found about about the next concept device i m making . Called XBOX Groove

[iMav]

hey saurav u gonna buy the iphone?????

it's saurav, & no, i m happy with my K750i does everything i want, in a small package

[ShekharPalash]

iPhone is the sexiest thing ever happened to technology / UI... they just rock

[iMav]

^^ tht wud be a hyperbole

Official specifications:
Screen size: 3.5-inches
Screen resolution: 320 by 480 at 160 ppi
Input method: Multi-touch
Operating System: OS X
Storage: 4GB or 8GB
GSM: Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900)
Wireless data: Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0
Camera: 2.0 megapixels
Battery: Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing; Up to 16 hours Audio playback
Dimensions: 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm
Weight: 4.8 ounces / 135 grams
The iPhone will begin shipping in June of this year.

shekhar u r right about the hardware, but iphone is just looks from what we are seeing. Better save your remarks till u use it as a phone

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

In what sence? finding 101 way to mess up the phone with your fingers

Here is a scenario today

me in mcdonalds having a burger, i get a call, i take out my K750i & take the call. The keypad is plastic & since my hands are dirty with sause & anything like that, only the keypad gets dirty & i can wipe it easily with hanky or not wipe it at all, it's a plastic keypad anyway

Here is a scenario after july 2007

me in mcdonalds having a buger, a phone comes, & i m using iPhone. I take out the phone, now, how to touch it? Tomato ketchup on the screen....ya right

@mav3
Zune brand phone...hmm.....how the hell u found about about the next concept device i m making . Called XBOX Groove

First of all, McDonald's have napkins and only allow civilised people into their premises!
Second, if you do not mind dirtying the keypad, you shouldn't mind dirtying the screen too.

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

abe, 30K Ke phone ki M B eik nahi karni.....

Third, the phone is priced at $499 (the 4GB version). How does that equate to 30K?

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

But what the hell is MacOS X doing there, didn't they learn anything from Symbian OS (slowness etc). Frimware based OS (sony, Motorola) are the best to go.

Fourth, there is a difference between an operating system made by Apple and those made by other companies. The phone has Mac OS X and it runs amazingly fast on my MacBook Pro. I don't have any reason to believe that it will lag on the phone. The phone allows you to install actual desktop applications onto it. It is a first.

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

The reason a stylus is used in Mobile phones or PDA is to prevent the screen from smudge & damages etc, Apple has touted a "a magic patented interface", but does it have a patented magic anti-fingerprint and smudge interface? Well, fingers are good, they are easily available (pun intended)...but comon, u can't write with a finger, or better yet, draw. It has MacOS X, so atleast i expect a paint like application there, the biggest feature of such touchscreen phones, & that too with out a pen(stylus) . U gotta be kidding me, there is not even an option for stylus so far.

Fifth, it has a fingerprint resistant screen surface so put a rest to the nagging about lacking a stylus.

Sixth, you say that it has nothing new?! Well, I can see hordes of new features: iPod, 3.5-inch widescreen display, iTunes syncing, Cover Flow, one touch calling, visual voicemail, intelligent/predictive QWERTY soft keyboard, photo management application, HTML email client, support for POP3 and IMAP, GPS, widgets, multi-touch, OS X, true desktop-class applications, wireless (quad-band GSM, EDGE, 802.11b/g Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 2.0 with EDR), bluetooth headset and built-in Advanced Sensors (accelerometer, proximity sensor and ambient light sensor). And I have not included the features that are common on other phones too.

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

SMS looks more like Chat. Well...donno whats the use of this feature, some might like it.

Seventh, you don't find SMS useful? Are you normal!

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

Right, re-invented, apple just won't miss a chance to say it again & again. I guess i have these features from what, 2 years already in my K750i, or K700i/k500i before that. Comon....the most lame thing about Apple is their marketing

Eighth, Do they have more than any five of the features I mentioned above? And yeah, Apple is very bad at marketing, which is why a product that they announced in San Francisco, will ship in June, hasn't even been approved yet and will reach Asia in 2008 - makes people sitting in India take notice and post on an online forum about it at 2 o' clock in the night. Yeah, they sure don't know how to market a product. Leave aside the fact that the iPod has more than seventy percent market-share, tops every bestseller list, ITMS sells 6 songs per second and people are literally drooling over the iPhone. LOL! ::sarcasm alert::

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

$499 & $599 , i would rather prefer a P910i with a real stylus & writing abilty which costs less then this.

Ninth, In case you have failed to notice, no one cares for your preference!

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

Google Maps is just a website based service which can be accessed on any Nokia Communicator or Sony P Series too

Tenth, Yes, but it not integrated with them and does not serve the purpose of a GPS device.

If you haven't noticed, every sane person on Earth is thrilled about the iPhone. Tell me one thing, what do you want in a phone that the iPhone lacks! I can only point to 3G.

Till now, I had always considered you as a person who does not like a Mac because he hasn't used it and is very jealous of those who have the privilege. But now it is confirmed that you are a blind hater of Apple and logic and reasoning play no part in contributing to the emotion. I pity you!