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Old 03-07-2006, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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source:source to this thread is that it is a part of an email received by me from a trusted friend(she won't lie)it was about vista and its features(vector graphics,one care service & all ) i wish i could put the entire mail here but i have already deleted it.
besides, these restriction are to stop piracy not to cause inconvenience to its users,however we are feeling that this is wrong because we are used to piracy.
i just wanted to share all this with you

before any one of you plans to buy VISTA when released read the following restrictions to users:-
AACS Advanced Access Control System
(stops you playing dvds)

AEC Automatic echo cancellation
(stops you listening to music)

AES Advanced Encryption Standard
(without the original keys your movies/games/music wont play)

APO Output Encryption Audio Processing Object
(same as above but failsafe incase first fails)

COPP Certified Output Protection Protocol
(ever use TV out? well not no more this stops it)

DDI device driver interface
(no clue)

DTCP Digital Transmission Content Protection
(no more downloading and watching tv shows on a pc)

LFSR Linear-Feedback Shift Register
(DRM checking on Registration key before anything works)

HDCP High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection
(wanna download something? has to pass a certificate first)

HFS Hardware Functionality Scan
(scans hardware to see if trusted DRM is turned on if not wont play)

ITA Input Trust Authority
(same as above only disables system)

OMAC One-Key Cipher Block Chaining Message Authentication Code
(fancy way or saying DRM is locked in)

OTA Output Trust Authority
(contents need to be auth'd with content providers server before they play)

PAP Protected Audio Path
(wont play mp3 files that are not protected)

POC Protected Output Controller
(same as tv out protection)

PUMA Protected User Mode Audio
(only plays DRM'd bull****)

PVP Protected Video Path
(only plays DRM files with licence)

PVP-OPM Protected Video Path - Output Protection Management
(speaks for itself)

PVP-UAB Protected Video Path - user-accessible bus
(no hardware/software hacks as the protection is in the drivers)

RSA Rivest-Shamir-Adleman

SAP Secure Audio Path
(bye bye unlicenced content)

SCMS Serial Copying Management System
(other words if found with a invalid key it will remove it)

S/PDIF Sony/Philips Digital Interchange Format

SRM System Renewability Messages

UMA User Mode Audio

VAS Virtual Audio Server

VPO Virtual Protected Output

Now you all know the details!!!
so all those who wanted to buy VISTA will still stick to their decision?
plz rate this msg its my first new thread
i don't know what the above abbr. means exactly but searching on net will surely quench your thirst(of knowledge)
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Old 03-07-2006, 10:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Dunno if it will play anything on my PC ! :-P
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so what am i supposed do with my pc if all this not allowed????
however i still question ur source and info coz i highly doubt MS would put so many restrictions which will certainly result in less sales so i would like to put forward this question to all vista beta users and i will certainly empty my hdd to try vista beta
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Old 03-07-2006, 10:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Dunno wht abt of this but onw ting is for SURE we will have a bundle of cracks for this within 5 days of the release of the software, So wht to worry ?
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dont think such restrictions will apply..can u please attach the source ??as i am not sure if all the info is right..
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Yes even I don't think Microsoft is a fool company !! They will never do this, ya restrictions can be there on illegal version of vista (if any). But the OS with ORIGINAL version will not have any of this restrictions.
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Yeah, some restriction are there to protect the Windows OS. But the list is too
many!! If all these are implemented in Vista more users will move to Linux or
Mac. Hey, where is the source man?
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Old 04-07-2006, 12:00 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well this restriction are totally true. For example if you are using pirated vista you cant enable AERO. Vista is full of DRM. They should have called Vista has DRM OS.
 
Old 04-07-2006, 12:27 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Is that an OS or a Firewall full of restrictions.....
well i guess it play the .wma &.wmv files ....... without any restrictions...
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hey man why worry haaah , just windows xp works (piorated one ) vista too work also bcauz hackers and crackers are more brilliant than those developer at microsoft . even i wil try my hand to kick vista . i will use vista ultimate edition (pirated one) and and will enjoy as genuine users enjoy

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MS will loose more then they will gain with such kinda restrictions in Vista. BTW Im happily using linux without any problems
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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dont worry u will find a crack for this .

or else m$ himself must supply crack in form of service pack's

he will be a loooooooseeeeeeeeer .
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I dont believe this !!! dont think it will have such restrictions...
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:55 AM   #14 (permalink)
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First of all please mention the source. You dont credibility here unless you can post the source of your info. And no "I got it in an email" stuff either. Great to bring news but credibility is equally important. Then we can talk about its implications. I myself have not seen anything related to this. So source please.
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^^ Both are forum , and has the same thing as above , Even in those forums there is no link to the source
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source to this thread is that it is a part of an email received by me from a trusted friend(she won't lie)it was about vista and its features(vector graphics,one care service an all ) i wish i could put the entire mail here but i have already deleted it
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Old 04-07-2006, 07:28 PM   #18 (permalink)
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ummm so many restrictions will b sure to looked at :O
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This email has been doing rounds. but i dont think this piece of news is actually from microsoft. all this seems to be something impossible. microsoft will surely first think of the losses it will incur by putting all these things and losing market share

rather than the losses of the ppl creating the music.
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some linux freaks possibly trying to malign vista by reading too much and mis-interpreting facts about MS Vista
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pfft

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device...t_protect.mspx

http://www.techweb.com/wire/software/167101037

http://news.com.com/Vista+wont+show+...3-6060700.html

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just i said some1 mis-interpreting facts:

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In plain English, this means that Vista machines won't be able to play next-generation, high-definition DVDs in their full, high-resolution glory unless they're equipped with monitors that support a new DRM scheme called High-Bandwidth Digital Copy Protection, That'll mean that PC owners wanting to upgrade to Vista will also have to spend hundreds of dollars to buy HDCP-compliant monitors
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"Any DRM content that's out there today, you'll be able to play with any existing monitor using Vista."

However, Birge confirms that new monitors will be required to support full playback of high-definition DVDs. "Next-generation DVDs will require HDCP for playback,"
please always read carefully before u jump to conclusions .... these are excerpts taken from the second link given by thunderbird.117 ..... please read before u leap
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Why do you people think Ms will be in loss? Only because it will stop pirates like you. Or do you think this will apply to the orginal versions as well. Come-on even windows 95 played multimedia. And even if you get a crack for Vista, you wont probably find a crack for softwares in a few years time.So give up piracy , dude. Think of it as a practice to the time when you will be forced to.
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will all these restrictions apply to original copies also ??
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ur wrong in this whole world everything is crackable in software , the haqckers and crackers are more intelligent and brilliant than those of developers . So piracy can stop only by the consumers not by the developers
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This email has been doing rounds. but i dont think this piece of news is actually from microsoft. all this seems to be something impossible. microsoft will surely first think of the losses it will incur by putting all these things and losing market share

rather than the losses of the ppl creating the music.
i have already said these restrictions are to stop piracy not to cause inconvenience to users

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Why do you people think Ms will be in loss? Only because it will stop pirates like you. Or do you think this will apply to the orginal versions as well. Come-on even windows 95 played multimedia. And even if you get a crack for Vista, you wont probably find a crack for softwares in a few years time.So give up piracy , dude. Think of it as a practice to the time when you will be forced to.
this is something i want to tell all the guys here
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yes MS is taking steps to curb piracy, but this is never ending, if u equip the police with good guns the criminals will always come up with something better, it is only possinle to reduce piracy by bridging everything together that is what MS is trying to do ... but all the 'restrictions' that 1 is talking about are not completely tru please carefully read the links which thunderbird.117 has posted .... they are just mis-interprtations
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One things is that you can not piracy will all this DRM.

BTW. Five or more teams or expert hackers and crackers are going to crack vista.

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all those asking for source plz read the links given by thunderbird .117
though it doesn't state the points what i have written above but it still have some points(restrictions)that might prove that this thread is not completely wrong(note i'm saying completely wrong,it can be partially wrong)
and as far as credits go i am not asking for any credits i just wanted to share this piece of info i had
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if this happens ..then i think ms is doomed.......

<everything here is totally fictionous> but another thing is some one some where will find a way to bypass these alll...or who knows ms itself might leak some solution.....look from this point...MS says these will happen...and whoever is listening to them will think they should only buy original and will invest and buy....and in the same time...ms might release these patches for these restriction and also make vista a popular one in the background...


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