Vista will drive users to Linux

[tarey_g]

Originally Posted by prakash kerala

what will vista costs in india(not 4 a pirate),my guess is will be around Rs25000 is it right?

prakash , no offence but ur posts are weakning in logical resonability as i move down reading ur and others comments on this topic , vista or any other os not in any way can cost that much, i totally disagree. callin some software giant evil because they want to sell their product , using marketing stratagies to promote the product so user's dont use what the competitors are offering ! i dont think its evil ,its business and thats the same thing what most of us are paying to learn in colleges.

Every person using comp is not same , some of them use linux distros and can manage their os very well but many of them don't even know how to install drivers for hardware in linux, secondly normal users want compatibility of the os with many softwares they use and are using from years .and i think windows being the most used os this is the only answer for them . I know its very easy to flame a windows supporting person here , everyone first points the secutity issue but why do ppl forget the fact that if today any os other than windows was so popular, then it would have been the prime target of the hacker community and the same thing would happen to that os too, so i think the security issues are very obvious.

we are customers and we can choose according to what we need from the os so i dont think there is anything to fight upon.

Originally Posted by Techmax

Are bhai jo achcha lage use karo jhagadne ki kya baat hai!!!

[praka123]

Originally Posted by tarey

I know its very easy to flame a windows supporting person here , everyone first points the secutity issue but why do ppl forget the fact that if today any os other than windows was so popular, then it would have been the prime target of the hacker community and the same thing would happen to that os too, so i think the security issues are very obvious.

Linux is much better on security.the user/file permission system will not allow any thing to be written.for intruders,linux got iptables which M$ can only dream..moving to Linux dont u Know how much money Governments and companies,individuals save.Also was they are protected from spywares,worms,viruses and hence downtime.Countries like ours cant bear such a porpreitory solution which is also a waste.infact Our countries president affirms moving to Open Source..he is earler a senior scientist in ISRO..remember..
seems like you are not in sync with free software philospohy and GNU Open Source...since you are such a geek..get some resources on free software philospohy and Understand why we need them.M$ and its founders ethics are evil.so only we are protesting.they spread FUD...always acquire patents for warfare against Linux and OPen Source.why does IBM,Dell and many others are changing..have some thought leaving apart hatred for Linux and OSS
As far as Vista pricing is considered wait and watch whether U or me is correct.

[iMav]

Weel il b honest here....im going buy myself an official version of Vista the moment it hits Indian Market......

[borg]

Regarding Linux on the desktop, I don't know how Linux community plans to move forward. There isn't any such thing as 'The GNU/Linux', instead we have Fedora caore, opensuse, Mandriva, Ubuntu, etc, etc , etc. I am told that there are around 300-400 Linux distributions. Lot of incompatibilities exist between each of them. It is a nightmare for ISVs to develop software for Linux & ensure that it runs on all distros. How does the Linux community plan to tacle this issue?. I have no clue.

[mehulved]

GNU/Linux does exist and is alive and kicking. What you are talking about is linux distributions developed by many vendors. The heart of the distro is the linux kernel on which the whole OS works. And it is powered by softwares developed under GNU Public License. That's why it is called GNU/Linux.
And how does linux comunity tackle the issues of different distros? Have a look at Linux Filesystem Hierarchy. There is specific place where a software are installed and those are present in every distro. And besides there are config files which point out where and how everything has been organised. So, it is not a big issue at all. There are mainly 4 formats by which linux softwares are available
1. RPM's
2. deb's
3 sources like .tar.gz, .tar.bz
4. binary ie .bin
It isn't as unorganised as you seem to think.

[desertwind]

And to add to it,
Free Software is about freedom of choices too!

[praka123]

.....examples are the new eye candy options rivalling MAC and M$ OS are released almost the same time by Fedora and Novell-AIGLX and XGL
http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/wiki/Re...d36de8f8d41703
http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/

Vista...Linux will eat you!

[borg]

@tech_your_future

Yeah, all that is fine. What I am talking about is due to the lack of standardization, ISVs face a lot of problems. Suppose an ISV develops a program, how can he be sure that it will run on all distros of Linux?. This is a prevalent problem & needs to be tackled. There have been some steps in this direction like the portland project, etc. Lets see where all this leads.

[Vyasram]

I will not shift to Linux, neither will i buy vista ultimate.

Neither will 80% of ppl shift to linux, they'll all use and not buy vista. Microsoft will not take any actions against them even if it has 100 million piracy eradicators in its hands coz if those 80% of ppl shift to linux (or continue using linux) , it will trigger the shifting of the remaining 17% original vista buyers to linux as well.
Remaining 1%-Mac and others and 2%- total microsoft loyal fans and guyz workin in microsoft

So microsoft doesn't wanna lose atleat these 17% of users who might buy vista , so it'll be lenient with piracy.

[mehulved]

Originally Posted by borg

What I am talking about is due to the lack of standardization, ISVs face a lot of problems. Suppose an ISV develops a program, how can he be sure that it will run on all distros of Linux?. This is a prevalent problem & needs to be tackled. There have been some steps in this direction like the portland project, etc. Lets see where all this leads.

I agree things are not completely standardised. But, all softwares have some other software which they need to work, they are known as dependancies. So, as far as you supply dependancies, you can get your software to work on any distro. How come linux has so much software? All the software made for linux is by ISV's. There are hardly any products developed by the suppliers of distros or the maintainers of linux kernel. Almost all the software on linux platform is from independant developers. Only problem is that major software developers are reluctant to port their softwares to linux just as yet due to unjustifiable costs and misassumption that linux softwares are always free.