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16-03-2012, 03:04 PM #1
Kolkata court orders ISPs to block music pirating sites
Source: [arstechnica.com]....
A Kolkata court has ordered all 387 Internet providers in the country to block a list of 104 websites after the Indian Music Industry (IMI) filed suit against them. Indian Music Industry officials filed information with the court showing that each of the 104 sites hosted at least some infringing material; the judges ruled that site blocking was a proper way of dealing with the issue.
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IMI officials have insisted to local media that they are targeting only the worst offenders, saying that they began their process with 300 websites and eventually narrowed it down to 104 of the most flagrant infringers.
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The first list of 104 sites largely focuses on regional music; it includes sites like apunkabollywood.com, bollywoodmp4.com, and lovepaki.com. IMI promises that its next targets will include more general-purpose file-sharing sites, however.
My views:
While their anti-piracy stand (finally!) is commendable, the plans to target general file sharing sites, along with recent government proposals to censor Google and Facebook, will have serious implications regarding civil liberties, and (I think) can be considered as authoritarianism.
First of all, the site owners weren't informed. They weren't given a chance to respond to the court order, or to challenge it. This is NOT how the judiciary is supposed to work.
Does the Kolkata court have the authority to decide on pan-India matters?Last edited by kbar1; 16-03-2012 at 03:19 PM.
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16-03-2012, 03:27 PM #2
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16-03-2012, 04:02 PM #3not an otaku
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16-03-2012, 04:36 PM #4
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16-03-2012, 04:41 PM #5
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Like always it wont be implemented. Orders like these will be taken seriously only if High Court or Supreme Court makes.
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17-03-2012, 10:23 AM #6
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Actually blocking of site is other issue but DPI (Deep Packet Inspection) is more serious issue as it violates the privacy of a user.
Using DPI makes it "theoretically possible" to read the content of mail traffic
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17-03-2012, 11:07 AM #7
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if i have to say things should be like this.people have to download the song and if they like it they should buy them.but if you don't allow them to see if they like the song or not and force them to buy it and if they don't like it.then this is also a type of piracy.hell lot of people go to theaters when a movie is released and most of the times what they get to see is just BS.people simply spent their money for nothing.then this is also a type of piracy.
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17-03-2012, 11:20 AM #8
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AFAIK, DPI is used by Iran and China (not great lovers of personal freedom), as well as by the U.S. for warrantless spying. It's also used by ISPs (in U.S./U.K.) for identifying and throttling bittorrent traffic. The most dangerous part is, it can also be used to alter info for disinformation purposes. That is worse than full censorship, because you can't say which is true and which is not.Last edited by kbar1; 17-03-2012 at 11:32 AM.
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17-03-2012, 12:45 PM #9
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oh man so is bsnl goin to block all fs/torrent sites...
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17-03-2012, 01:17 PM #10Alpha Geek
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Re: Kolkata court orders ISPs to block music pirating sites
Are the other members able to access isohunt from BSNL?
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17-03-2012, 01:27 PM #11not an otaku
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17-03-2012, 01:42 PM #12Human Spambot
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district courts can give verdict on any case irrespective of location/geographical nature of the case.there is no such rule that pan-India issues need supreme court/high court verdicts only.in fact unless it is related to fundamental rights or specifically mentioned that appeal must be made in high court/supreme court(like administrative tribunal judgements)no case should be filed directly in supreme court/high court unless it is to challenge a lower court's verdict.
ISP's will simply challenge the verdict in kolkata HC/same district court & most probably it will be reversed just like delhi local/district court reversed its decision about google/facebook.Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
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17-03-2012, 01:44 PM #13
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this really isn't a fundamental rights issue.it is simply a "right/wrong way of implementing a law" issue.piracy is wrong but this measure to fight it is also not correct.
fundamental rights are in a different league altogether.issues such as internet restrictions are not even close to FR.Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
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17-03-2012, 02:22 PM #15
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17-03-2012, 05:30 PM #16not an otaku
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Re: Kolkata court orders ISPs to block music pirating sites
We do not have the "fundamental right of freedom to access to all websites on the interwebs".
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17-03-2012, 06:22 PM #17
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Please stay on topic guys. It's a censorship issue.
I wonder why they are unable to crack down all illegal CD/DVD vendors spread across the country. Blocking websites will hardly solve the problem.Neo TDF > TDF 6.5
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Re: Kolkata court orders ISPs to block music pirating sites
it is not when a rickshaw puller rents a vcd/dvd/cd for Rs.10-15 that matters to companies but when someone running Radeon 6850/core i/phenom II/... downloads a movie/song with a monthly internet plan of ~500 & above.I wonder why they are unable to crack down all illegal CD/DVD vendors spread across the country. Blocking websites will hardly solve the problem.
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17-03-2012, 07:40 PM #19
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Its partially the fault of the content providers as well. They haven't promoted legal ways of downloading music aggressively. Heck, most people don't find anything wrong in downloading music from those shady sites. Also, the vast majority won't pay for music just like that. Do you think a rickshaw puller will pay 9 bucks (how is another topic altogether) for a single track? BTW, that's the price per track for most Bollywood numbers in Flipkart's Flyte service.
There are ways to get around this kind of censorship, as the source article pointed out. However, most of the "casual" pirates will be discouraged. Then, I think, Bollywood will hit a brick wall because not many people are listening to their "item songs" any more...
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17-03-2012, 08:52 PM #20
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meh
physically downloading mp3s is soo old fashioned, something on its way out anyway, - its just a clumsy way of handling data.... if courts are suppressing it its a good thing
donno why ppl nid songs.pk when there are sites/services like saavn... as easy and you can get anything without the hassle of actually downloading itIDDQD IDKFA
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17-03-2012, 10:30 PM #21
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who cares about they block or not?there always other way proxies,dns etc etc.....the person who wants to download a file illegally can always download it.......
I can still browse Songs.pk even its blocked!On TDF after a loooo...nng time!
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17-03-2012, 10:51 PM #22
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Crappy move. There is no stopping the illegal downloads.
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18-03-2012, 12:45 AM #23
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Yaa, I know. We got a notice from Kolkata High Court.
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18-03-2012, 10:13 AM #24
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Is songs.pk already blocked? If so, then MTNL doesn't know how to block
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18-03-2012, 10:26 AM #25
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18-03-2012, 11:33 AM #26
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Court forgot that King of Kings The P2P is still up and ever will...its out of their reach to Take down Torrent system so they are satisfying themselves. by taking aim on Sites with FTP download system.lol...anyways songs.pk is heavily traffic - ed site ....they blocked one name songs.pk ..it came back as songspk.pk...lol...it wont stop.
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18-03-2012, 12:23 PM #27
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^^ Stringent enforcement of DPI means they can identify (and block) bittorrent and other P2P protocols, regardless of whether you're downloading Ubuntu or the latest Hollywood flick.
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18-03-2012, 03:12 PM #28
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Songspk.pk haha....The Indian Music Industry, a consortium of 142 music companies, announced today that it has obtained orders from the Calcutta High Court directing all Internet Service Providers (387 in all) to block access to 104 music sites from India. We’ve obtained a list of sites that the IMI wants blocked:
1. 22beats.com
2. absongs.com
3. apniisp.com
4. apunkabollywood.com
5. bollyextreme.com
6. bollymaza.com
7. bollywood-hits.com
8. bollywoodmp4.com
9. bollywoodstop.com
10. coolgoose.com
11. dacoolsite.com
12. desibajao.net/desihits.net
13. desifunda.net
14. desisong.com
15. dhakdhakradio.com
16. downloadming.com
17. freeindisongs.com
18. funmaza.com
19. gogrumogru.com/songs.ind.in
20. karachimag.com
21. koolfree.com
22. lovepaki.com
23. mastmag.com
24. mobraja.com
25. mp3fundoo.com
26. mp3paradice.com
27. musicduniya.com
28. musiqbuzz.com
29. muskurahat.com
30. netmasty.com
31. pakfellows.com
32. paktimes.com
33. playlist.pk
34. punjabcentral.com
35. radioreloaded.com
36. radiorhythmz.fm
37. radiorocking.com
38. rkmania.com
39. songbox.pk
40. songsinn.com
41. songsnonstop.com
42. songsrack.com
43. songsrip.com
44. songzila.com
45. topupmp3.com
46. town67.com
47. 100india.com
48. musicindiaonline.com
49. aflatune.com
50. bharatlover.com
51. cckerala.com
52. centralmusiq.com
53. chimatamusic.com
54. desimusic.com
55. desishock.net
56. dhool.com
57. dishant.com
58. filmicafe.com
59. filmimusic.com
60. fun1001.com
61. hindimirchi.com
62. sunomusic.com
63. telugufm.com
64. yolike.com
65. andhravilas.com
66. smashits.com
67. songdad.com
68. songslover.net
69. ragalahari.com
70. rameshmusic.com
71. freeplaymp3songdownload.com
72. freefundoo.com
73. desijammers.com
74. thenisai.com
75. mp3feelings.com
76. mazafm.com/hindimirchi.com
77. kjyesudas.com
78. jaanfm.com
79. gr8click.com
80. funscrape.com
81. chirkutonorkut.com
82. tamilmaalai.com
83. tamilkey.info
84. vmusiq.com
85. sevanthi.com
86. tamilwire.com
87. a2ztamilsongs.com
88. mymaza.com
89. germantamilan.com
90. 123music.mobi
91. desiden.mobi
92. longmp3.mobi
93. krazywap.com
94. mobile-zon.com
95. mymp3.mobi
96. samwep.com
97. spicyfm.com
98. wapindia.net
99. wapmaza.mobi
100. waprocks.in
101. mobidreamz.com
102. waptamil.net
103. zinkwap.com
104. songs.pk
Please note that we haven’t verified whether there is piracy on these sites: this is just the list of sites that the IMI wants blocked, via the court order. The first site that we heard of, earlier this month, was Songs.pk, which was subsequently blocked. However, it resurfaced later as Songspk.pk.
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22-03-2012, 04:11 PM #29
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"deep packet inspection," a powerful and potentially intrusive technology that can read and analyze "packets" of data that travel across the internet. The technology can be used to track internet users, search for and reconstruct email messages that have been broken up into data packets, block certain types of traffic and even deliver altered web pages to users.
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22-03-2012, 04:21 PM #30Alpha Geek
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I care only about thepiratebay and it is also going to host on flying drones so don't care much on this
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