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I don't think there will be many illegal Windows Vista Copies because of advanced anti-piracy protection. And Rock-Solid Acitvation system
But even if someone mangaes to install a illegal copy then he/she will not be able to install any other Microsoft Products due "Standard Genuin Validation Check".
This is going to be the implemented in all MS Products. We have already seen IE7 Beta which has this validation check
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Heh... I wonder someone having so much faith in the windows security measures. Guys.. Security and windows simply are not made for each other and a "Rock Solid" security in any windows product is simply a fallacy. Vista is going to be no exception in this regard. The core monolithic architecture of windows and its design since the first release has been crappy. Though they are moving the unix way but they need to rewrite the entire OS from scratch to attain what they are dreaming of. And yes..... comeon man dont get so Xited on M$ propaganda....I am hearing the same thing I did when win98 was launched. It reflects more propaganda than truth.
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15-08-2005, 08:56 PM
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well, this war is a never endin one until a code like GOD is invented., but that can be robbed too cant it ?
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19-08-2005, 05:54 PM
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well it will be cracked yaar
who uses legal version of windows
thats costly
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19-08-2005, 06:45 PM
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This is exactly why people in India don't invent something like "Windows"or we could have got that software for very cheap price.
Techies in India work for someone else's invention instead of inventing.
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Very true buddy.
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19-08-2005, 08:08 PM
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When windows xp was lauched they tried the product activation method...and it was cracked in no matter of time.
What ever security measure MS may take, there will be always a way out of it.....
If MS is really bothered about piracy it should reduce the price of the product.
Who will buy a expensive product with flaws in it?
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19-09-2005, 08:00 PM
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 now yet ANOTHER way found to update ur windowsxp copy.
it works !
search properly on the net or pm me for the link, if u r interested...
...though for the record, i do urge u to b a law-abiding responsible citizen and buy one !
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19-09-2005, 08:12 PM
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This is exactly why people in India don't invent something like "Windows"or we could have got that software for very cheap price.
Techies in India work for someone else's invention instead of inventing.
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U are correct their buddy..
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19-09-2005, 08:35 PM
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I don't think there will be many illegal Windows Vista Copies because of advanced anti-piracy protection. And Rock-Solid Acitvation system
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well man if that happens, lemme tell u, Microsoft is digging its own grave...
people will move to Linux which becoming more n more user friendly ......... and of course lesser bugs n viruses...
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19-09-2005, 09:53 PM
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M$ always allowed its software to be pirated and hence so many desktop users...they stop piracy they stop their product.....and dont tell M$ isnt crackable....it took < 24 hours to crack MGA tool
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20-09-2005, 01:52 AM
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Well ya piracy should be stoped and its easy to do that.
MS can implement hardware varification tool, which will actually scan your mobo for a perticular code ( which can be anything, like number etc). Once the code matches with the OS code (or installation ID) the product should activate.
For example: I have a HCL computer at home, when I changed the mobo, I had to re-activate the OS again, which was successful but when I attempted to install Microsoft Plus! on it, it never allowed saying "This software is designed to be installed on HCL computers only"
Do you know why it gave such an error, because of the BIOS, actually the mobo had the customised version of the BIOS chip. Which contained the HCL logo and other information.
Now, the question is will Microsoft implement such hardware varification tool in Windows Vista or not ?
I think they should.
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20-09-2005, 12:11 PM
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U r very right in that buddie..
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Yes Gentleman I too accept your words.
Microsoft must reduce the cost of the OS if it want to sell more genuine copies. Atleast it should give the OEM for just 1000 bucks. Right?
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20-09-2005, 02:29 PM
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Gr8 post anand!!! Thanx for informing dude!!!
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21-09-2005, 06:52 PM
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U r very right in that buddie..
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Yes Gentleman I too accept your words.
Microsoft must reduce the cost of the OS if it want to sell more genuine copies. Atleast it should give the OEM for just 1000 bucks. Right?
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1000 bux
30 after bargaining
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21-09-2005, 07:29 PM
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Thats true mate...
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21-09-2005, 10:03 PM
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U r very right in that buddie..
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Yes Gentleman I too accept your words.
Microsoft must reduce the cost of the OS if it want to sell more genuine copies. Atleast it should give the OEM for just 1000 bucks. Right?
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Yea....That happens!
I mean My friends never purchase any software!
All from Friends & download! ---< CRACKED >
But Yea..... Rs 1000/- is a good Deal
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22-09-2005, 12:55 AM
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I mean My friends never purchase any software!
All from Friends & download! ---< CRACKED > (PIRATED)
But Yea..... Rs 1000/- is a good Deal 
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1000 original wingays wont b much but comapring to good old piracy its more thn anything
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22-09-2005, 01:14 PM
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yes a 1000~ buk will be a good bargain with an overwhelmin response...
It will be better if they can reduce it upto atleast say,....
2000~ for now and then gradually reduce..
Atleast they can give a slight stripdown version...
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22-09-2005, 06:30 PM
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has anyone here tried xp starter edition, i think it costs around 2000 bucks; but is crippleware ?
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09-10-2005, 12:46 AM
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Well ya piracy should be stoped and its easy to do that.
MS can implement hardware varification tool, which will actually scan your mobo for a perticular code ( which can be anything, like number etc). Once the code matches with the OS code (or installation ID) the product should activate.
For example: I have a HCL computer at home, when I changed the mobo, I had to re-activate the OS again, which was successful but when I attempted to install Microsoft Plus! on it, it never allowed saying "This software is designed to be installed on HCL computers only"
Do you know why it gave such an error, because of the BIOS, actually the mobo had the customised version of the BIOS chip. Which contained the HCL logo and other information.
Now, the question is will Microsoft implement such hardware varification tool in Windows Vista or not ?
I think they should.
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By now Bill Gates must have read this post.
BIOS Chip?? U know what.....Information stored in the Bios can be hacked directly while OS is running. Mods! No offense intended.
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09-10-2005, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Portus
I don't think there will be many illegal Windows Vista Copies because of advanced anti-piracy protection. And Rock-Solid Acitvation system
But even if someone mangaes to install a illegal copy then he/she will not be able to install any other Microsoft Products due "Standard Genuin Validation Check".
This is going to be the implemented in all MS Products. We have already seen IE7 Beta which has this validation check
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u think crackers will be sitting and watching it???
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09-10-2005, 06:38 AM
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Well ya piracy should be stoped and its easy to do that.
MS can implement hardware varification tool, which will actually scan your mobo for a perticular code ( which can be anything, like number etc). Once the code matches with the OS code (or installation ID) the product should activate.
For example: I have a HCL computer at home, when I changed the mobo, I had to re-activate the OS again, which was successful but when I attempted to install Microsoft Plus! on it, it never allowed saying "This software is designed to be installed on HCL computers only"
Do you know why it gave such an error, because of the BIOS, actually the mobo had the customised version of the BIOS chip. Which contained the HCL logo and other information.
Now, the question is will Microsoft implement such hardware varification tool in Windows Vista or not ?
I think they should.
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By now Bill Gates must have read this post.
BIOS Chip?? U know what.....Information stored in the Bios can be hacked directly while OS is running. Mods! No offense intended.
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Dude i knew tht BIOS can be hacked but can its crucial parts can be hacked? I thought only the unimportant stuffs in BIOS can be changed. Unimportant in sense of things that can cause problems to computer. And most of the new motherboard has a sort of back up system which will reload the whole BIOS as it was before. This has been implemented to make over clocking less dangerous. So hacking BIOS is virtually impossible rite?
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Well ya piracy should be stoped and its easy to do that.
MS can implement hardware varification tool, which will actually scan your mobo for a perticular code ( which can be anything, like number etc). Once the code matches with the OS code (or installation ID) the product should activate.
For example: I have a HCL computer at home, when I changed the mobo, I had to re-activate the OS again, which was successful but when I attempted to install Microsoft Plus! on it, it never allowed saying "This software is designed to be installed on HCL computers only"
Do you know why it gave such an error, because of the BIOS, actually the mobo had the customised version of the BIOS chip. Which contained the HCL logo and other information.
Now, the question is will Microsoft implement such hardware varification tool in Windows Vista or not ?
I think they should.
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By now Bill Gates must have read this post.
BIOS Chip?? U know what.....Information stored in the Bios can be hacked directly while OS is running. Mods! No offense intended.
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Dude i knew tht BIOS can be hacked but can its crucial parts can be hacked? I thought only the unimportant stuffs in BIOS can be changed. Unimportant in sense of things that can cause problems to computer. And most of the new motherboard has a sort of back up system which will reload the whole BIOS as it was before. This has been implemented to make over clocking less dangerous. So hacking BIOS is virtually impossible rite?
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Impossible?? you mean I M Possible ?? Well...comeon man is there any thing "REALLY" impossible ? Its not worth discussion buddy.
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09-10-2005, 09:59 PM
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Well ya piracy should be stoped and its easy to do that.
MS can implement hardware varification tool, which will actually scan your mobo for a perticular code ( which can be anything, like number etc). Once the code matches with the OS code (or installation ID) the product should activate.
For example: I have a HCL computer at home, when I changed the mobo, I had to re-activate the OS again, which was successful but when I attempted to install Microsoft Plus! on it, it never allowed saying "This software is designed to be installed on HCL computers only"
Do you know why it gave such an error, because of the BIOS, actually the mobo had the customised version of the BIOS chip. Which contained the HCL logo and other information.
Now, the question is will Microsoft implement such hardware varification tool in Windows Vista or not ?
I think they should.
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By now Bill Gates must have read this post.
BIOS Chip?? U know what.....Information stored in the Bios can be hacked directly while OS is running. Mods! No offense intended.
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Dude i knew tht BIOS can be hacked but can its crucial parts can be hacked? I thought only the unimportant stuffs in BIOS can be changed. Unimportant in sense of things that can cause problems to computer. And most of the new motherboard has a sort of back up system which will reload the whole BIOS as it was before. This has been implemented to make over clocking less dangerous. So hacking BIOS is virtually impossible rite?
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Impossible?? you mean I M Possible ?? Well...comeon man is there any thing "REALLY" impossible ? Its not worth discussion buddy.
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Dude someday will u learn to take something in the rite sense???
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10-10-2005, 12:44 PM
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Comeon bro! didnt mean to make ya feel bad. But it would not be taken seriously if ya say something in computing as "virtually impossible". I didnt mean anything else but was replying to the "?" u put at the end 
Only reply to the another set of "???" is ....... rite is wrong
It is a famous old saying. I would like to repeat it....
"There is a crack in everything, that is how light creeps in"
enjoy!!
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10-10-2005, 05:18 PM
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Hmm dude u got a point.
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