Normally we don't care much for analyst-talk, but in the case of Adnaan Ahmad's disparaging open letter to Nokia it's worth taking a look—if only for the advice he dishes out about adopting Windows Phone 7.
The Berenberg Bank analyst Adnaan Ahmad recommends Nokia should strike up an exclusive deal with Microsoft, where they would:
"Get access to their Windows Phone 7 (WP7) intellectual property scot-free and access to the US market where your share has dived to the low single-digit level, and in so doing cut your bloated handset business R&D budget by at least 30 percent."
Just as importantly, he suggests to Nokia that they should:
"Get rid of your own proprietary high-end solution (MEEGO)-–it's the biggest joke in the tech industry right now and will put you even further behind Apple and Google."
This is all before Nokia's even announced a device running MeeGo, their new platform that's the result of a partnership with Intel. It's expected Nokia's going to be announcing something in the next few weeks—maybe a tablet, but most definitely a phone.
You have to admit that a Nokia phone running WP7 certainly makes sense. Nokia's new CEO Stephen Elop was hired fresh out of Microsoft, so the relationship is certainly there. Nokia's been quite open in the past about adopting other companies OSes though, with outspoken Executive Vice President Anssi Vanjoki describing companies who jump in bed with Android being like Finnish boys who "pee in their pants" for warmth in the winter months. Short-term relief, in other words.
With Vanjoki having already resigned (due for departure around March, we figure), will Elop take notice of Ahmad's advice? I think it's a little harsh to tell Nokia to ditch MeeGo when all we've seen is demos of the platform (and videos of other phones running it, too), but we can't argue against the suggestion Nokia should look at other platforms as well. [All Things D]
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Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
I don't think the person wrote about the capabilities of the OS. The problem is that Meego had been announced about one year ago & we haven't still even a leaked, teaser video. It feels like project has been abandoned.
Talking about the capabilities of the OS, no mobile OS is 100% complete without apps. When Meego will be out, it will suffer the low number of apps like Bada & WP7 is suffering now. And while the number of apps for WP7 would increase in the near future, most developers won't be interested to rewrite the apps for every specific OS,especially if it is used by only one vendor. Also remember that WP7, Bada & WebOS too are in line for attracting developers' attention.
Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
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I don't think the person wrote about the capabilities of the OS. The problem is that Meego had been announced about one year ago & we haven't still even a leaked, teaser video. It feels like project has been abandoned.
Talking about the capabilities of the OS, no mobile OS is 100% complete without apps. When Meego will be out, it will suffer the low number of apps like Bada & WP7 is suffering now. And while the number of apps for WP7 would increase in the near future, most developers won't be interested to rewrite the apps for every specific OS,especially if it is used by only one vendor. Also remember that WP7, Bada & WebOS too are in line for attracting developers' attention.
Well, MeeGo is Linux. Android is not Linux. It runs X and a package manager which Android doesn't. It also supports standard C++ libraries which Android doesn't. It'd support Qt and also GTK+. Porting applications to MeeGo would be easier/easy. In a nutshell, the true mobile "Linux" OS.
Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
lol. asking Nokia to ditch MeeGo for half baked WP7 IS the biggest joke in tech industry. This is what happens when banking analysts tries to understand technology. He should stick to counting peanuts.
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Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
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Well, MeeGo is Linux. Android is not Linux. It runs X and a package manager which Android doesn't. It also supports standard C++ libraries which Android doesn't. It'd support Qt and also GTK+. Porting applications to MeeGo would be easier/easy. In a nutshell, the true mobile "Linux" OS.
Android is also based on Linux, in practice is developed as a fork by Google, who carries with most of its development. The Dalvik application framework is a Java based implementation also detached from the Java community. The key parts of the Android stack are basically used in Android alone. This isolation has been useful for Android in the short term, but in practice it pushes ODMs and application developers out of the broader Linux and free desktop currents, requiring skills and development specific to Android.
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Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
^^ But still its going to take a lot to dethrone android. It has lot of 3rd party support and apart from nokia, nobody's gonna go for meego(i may be wrong here).
Even i'os has a unix based kernel.
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Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
But one thing we could not forget.android is in the hand of Google. so of new creativities will be possible like wednesday's introduction of cloud based android market..that can easily install app through just click without connecting or syncing wired/wireless..
so android is on top and meego will be gone to downside..
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Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
All of you forget the main part.It does matter if your car have a powerful engine but unfortunately the tires of your car will be burn at top speed.For example Bugaati veyron top speed is 254 Mph and 26 gallon fuel tank after 12 minutes the fuel tank goes empty and after 15 minutes tires will start to disintegrate.The thing is iphone is successful because of his application and support also marketing, all other phone have good screen and cpu and gpu in comparison to iphone but also apple introduce new concept of using a phone to a customer and no one can say no this is not a good phone.Its like toy and full entrainment package and also guys see that "There is app for that".Thank you for your patience to reading it and sorry for example.I thing i clear my point and it is correct i hope so.
Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
I have to say the biggest joke is this so called analyst who calls MeeGo a proprietary high end solution and then tells them to jump ship to the least capable proprietary OS. How clueless are these analysts saying that Nokia should / will move to Android/WP7? Such a move makes no sense and brings them no value and undermines all the efforts they have been doing all these years with Maemo/MeeGo and Qt. Those people who think that Nokia will simply dump MeeGo without even releasing a single device is cracking some serious sh*t.
What Nokia has to do is deliver top notch devices with good user experience and more importantly up their marketing efforts. Nokia doesn't even properly advertise the capabilities of their devices when other manufacturers glorify what they can and slaps a cheeky names for them. The problem with Symbian is not the OS but the public perception about it which was pushed for by the US media. They can't let that happen to MeeGo.
BTW there was a post on Qt Labs earlier this week saying that they are temporarily closing the MeeGo themed branch of Qt Quick components citing that they can't make certain pieces of the final user experience public. So we will get to see something about Nokia's MeeGo UX on Feb 13 in Barcelona whether they announce devices or not. Rumours say that first mass market MeeGo device from Nokia will be a candybar.
Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
I would like to say only one thing to Mr. Adnaan Ahmad, that if he'd be smarter, he would have been in a better place.
Anyways, maybe he was frustrated by waiting for MeeGo's release and so couldn't hold his emotions anymore and lost his mind.
Will MeeGo be a joke or a game-turner, only time will tell. But I fully agree with NIGHTMARE too who has beautifully explained that it is not the OS only which give any player the lead but the marketing, hardware and various other factors too. And various handsets launched by Nokia in past couple of years were way behind competition in terms of hardware.
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Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
@gagan007 I read a case study of Nokia during my dissertation.When Nokia launch handset in India that was a earlier stage, the sale was a not good or you can say up to mark,so Nokia survey team done some research & what they find in India people needs louder sound and battery backup.In that time the sound was not sufficient for India people because due to heavy tariff sound and also they want show they have mobile in there pocket,obviously show off and if ask any street walker "Bhaiya Nokia ka battery backup kaisa hai" i think you know answer.Then Nokia launch Nokia 3315 model which was big hit and come with good battery backup plus strong signal reception.
The thing what normal customer and potential customer wants and you are able to made that product or not.However that thing most powerful but for normal user are not able to use it so its useless or if manufacturing for specific group of people then may be it will useful.Same as PS2 CPU use for gaming purpose in console but if any want it can be used in launching a rocket.
Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
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@gagan007 I read a case study of Nokia during my dissertation.When Nokia launch handset in India that was a earlier stage, the sale was a not good or you can say up to mark,so Nokia survey team done some research & what they find in India people needs louder sound and battery backup.In that time the sound was not sufficient for India people because due to heavy tariff sound and also they want show they have mobile in there pocket,obviously show off and if ask any street walker "Bhaiya Nokia ka battery backup kaisa hai" i think you know answer.Then Nokia launch Nokia 3315 model which was big hit and come with good battery backup plus strong signal reception.
The thing what normal customer and potential customer wants and you are able to made that product or not.However that thing most powerful but for normal user are not able to use it so its useless or if manufacturing for specific group of people then may be it will useful.Same as PS2 CPU use for gaming purpose in console but if any want it can be used in launching a rocket.
I couldn't understand a single thing here. If you are on English learning phase, can you please post the same in hindi so that it makes sense. No offense meant but I really want to understand your point here.
what do you mean by heavy tariff sound, how can one do a showoff if their mobile is in their pocket. And the second para is like French, German, spanish and Italian put in a mixer.
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Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
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I couldn't understand a single thing here. If you are on English learning phase, can you please post the same in hindi so that it makes sense. No offense meant but I really want to understand your point here.
what do you mean by heavy tariff sound, how can one do a showoff if their mobile is in their pocket. And the second para is like French, German, spanish and Italian put in a mixer.
First I say sorry for my bad English,I will start taking English classes but unfortunately where I am living that place full-fill with English people and also English is belong to here.My French is not good but i am sure if i written something in French here you will take time to figure out which language is this.
The thing is when you are in traffic its to noisy over there,so if the mobile phone ringer is not efficient to produce such louder sound,i think its hard to hear the mobile phone ring-tone if the environment is too noisy and about show-off thing its means that time mobile phones are new and rare if some holding in their hand, so other people look at him and also that time if the mobile phone rings so suddenly most of people look at you because that time device was a new,expensive and limited.So if some have mobile phone he/she really wants show their phone to others because its extraordinary thing that time and they want some one call him.
And about second paragraph I try say:"A company have to made that type product which full-filled the customer needs and wants".If any company manufacturing a product and its really powerful but for normal user can't use that product in his daily life which he want and that why he purchases that product or product is very powerful but unfortunately customer is not satisfied because he can't use his full power or customer don't want that type of powerful product or that product have some limitation like he perform on in particular situation or platform.
Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
We haven't seen Meego yet. No previews, teasers, leaked pictures, videos or even documnets. So it is useless to argue about its capabilities at the moment. And as everything seems happening, I'm pretty much sure that it will take about 5-6 months more to get launched.
Now imagine Meego is launched.
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Most smartphones are running Android 2.3 Gingerbread or iOS 4.3 while Meego 1.0 is launched. Meego has an awesome UI & great usability. It however lacks apps. & is currently available on only two Nokia devices. Nokia is working on user feedbacks to iron out the minor quirks in the OS. Meego 1.2 which will be available next year will be updated on the user's recommendations. App. availability at the OVI store remains a major problem. Nokia's Symbian devices are hardly being sold.
The number of Android handsets as well as apps are breaking records & so is iOS apps with the new iPad2 selling like hot-cakes. Google is working hard to bring out Android 2.4 Ice-cream Sandwich which will have some major UI improvements & better app. support. It is expected to be ready for testing before September this year.
From this fictitious news article, I want to point out the following:
1. Meego is late. I won't believe that version 1 of the OS is going to be the perfect. It will still require user inputs to figure out the problems & then proper updating to reach to perfection. Google has shown this to us by continuosly updating Android & its other services (including Chrome which was updated just yesterday).
2. Meego will be crowding the Mobile OS pool. App developers who are already woking on WP7, Bada & WebOs will have to port thier apps for Meego. With only one hardware manufacturer, low number of devices & Meego's market share being small, they'll not be much interested.
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We haven't seen Meego yet. No previews, teasers, leaked pictures, videos or even documnets. So it is useless to argue about its capabilities at the moment.
New Nokia CEO, Stephen Elop writes a memo to their employees about the wrong decisions they've taken before.
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Hello there,
There is a pertinent story about a man who was working on an oil platform in the North Sea. He woke up one night from a loud explosion, which suddenly set his entire oil platform on fire. In mere moments, he was surrounded by flames. Through the smoke and heat, he barely made his way out of the chaos to the platform's edge. When he looked down over the edge, all he could see were the dark, cold, foreboding Atlantic waters.
As the fire approached him, the man had mere seconds to react. He could stand on the platform, and inevitably be consumed by the burning flames. Or, he could plunge 30 meters in to the freezing waters. The man was standing upon a "burning platform," and he needed to make a choice.
He decided to jump. It was unexpected. In ordinary circumstances, the man would never consider plunging into icy waters. But these were not ordinary times - his platform was on fire. The man survived the fall and the waters. After he was rescued, he noted that a "burning platform" caused a radical change in his behaviour.
We too, are standing on a "burning platform," and we must decide how we are going to change our behaviour.
Over the past few months, I've shared with you what I've heard from our shareholders, operators, developers, suppliers and from you. Today, I'm going to share what I've learned and what I have come to believe.
I have learned that we are standing on a burning platform.
And, we have more than one explosion - we have multiple points of scorching heat that are fuelling a blazing fire around us.
For example, there is intense heat coming from our competitors, more rapidly than we ever expected. Apple disrupted the market by redefining the smartphone and attracting developers to a closed, but very powerful ecosystem.
In 2008, Apple's market share in the $300+ price range was 25 percent; by 2010 it escalated to 61 percent. They are enjoying a tremendous growth trajectory with a 78 percent earnings growth year over year in Q4 2010. Apple demonstrated that if designed well, consumers would buy a high-priced phone with a great experience and developers would build applications. They changed the game, and today, Apple owns the high-end range.
And then, there is Android. In about two years, Android created a platform that attracts application developers, service providers and hardware manufacturers. Android came in at the high-end, they are now winning the mid-range, and quickly they are going downstream to phones under €100. Google has become a gravitational force, drawing much of the industry's innovation to its core.
Let's not forget about the low-end price range. In 2008, MediaTek supplied complete reference designs for phone chipsets, which enabled manufacturers in the Shenzhen region of China to produce phones at an unbelievable pace. By some accounts, this ecosystem now produces more than one third of the phones sold globally - taking share from us in emerging markets.
While competitors poured flames on our market share, what happened at Nokia? We fell behind, we missed big trends, and we lost time. At that time, we thought we were making the right decisions; but, with the benefit of hindsight, we now find ourselves years behind.
The first iPhone shipped in 2007, and we still don't have a product that is close to their experience. Android came on the scene just over 2 years ago, and this week they took our leadership position in smartphone volumes. Unbelievable.
We have some brilliant sources of innovation inside Nokia, but we are not bringing it to market fast enough. We thought MeeGo would be a platform for winning high-end smartphones. However, at this rate, by the end of 2011, we might have only one MeeGo product in the market.
At the midrange, we have Symbian. It has proven to be non-competitive in leading markets like North America. Additionally, Symbian is proving to be an increasingly difficult environment in which to develop to meet the continuously expanding consumer requirements, leading to slowness in product development and also creating a disadvantage when we seek to take advantage of new hardware platforms. As a result, if we continue like before, we will get further and further behind, while our competitors advance further and further ahead.
At the lower-end price range, Chinese OEMs are cranking out a device much faster than, as one Nokia employee said only partially in jest, "the time that it takes us to polish a PowerPoint presentation." They are fast, they are cheap, and they are challenging us.
And the truly perplexing aspect is that we're not even fighting with the right weapons. We are still too often trying to approach each price range on a device-to-device basis.
The battle of devices has now become a war of ecosystems, where ecosystems include not only the hardware and software of the device, but developers, applications, ecommerce, advertising, search, social applications, location-based services, unified communications and many other things. Our competitors aren't taking our market share with devices; they are taking our market share with an entire ecosystem. This means we're going to have to decide how we either build, catalyse or join an ecosystem.
This is one of the decisions we need to make. In the meantime, we've lost market share, we've lost mind share and we've lost time.
On Tuesday, Standard & Poor's informed that they will put our A long term and A-1 short term ratings on negative credit watch. This is a similar rating action to the one that Moody's took last week. Basically it means that during the next few weeks they will make an analysis of Nokia, and decide on a possible credit rating downgrade. Why are these credit agencies contemplating these changes? Because they are concerned about our competitiveness.
Consumer preference for Nokia declined worldwide. In the UK, our brand preference has slipped to 20 percent, which is 8 percent lower than last year. That means only 1 out of 5 people in the UK prefer Nokia to other brands. It's also down in the other markets, which are traditionally our strongholds: Russia, Germany, Indonesia, UAE, and on and on and on.
How did we get to this point? Why did we fall behind when the world around us evolved?
This is what I have been trying to understand. I believe at least some of it has been due to our attitude inside Nokia. We poured gasoline on our own burning platform. I believe we have lacked accountability and leadership to align and direct the company through these disruptive times. We had a series of misses. We haven't been delivering innovation fast enough. We're not collaborating internally.
Nokia, our platform is burning.
We are working on a path forward -- a path to rebuild our market leadership. When we share the new strategy on February 11, it will be a huge effort to transform our company. But, I believe that together, we can face the challenges ahead of us. Together, we can choose to define our future.
The burning platform, upon which the man found himself, caused the man to shift his behaviour, and take a bold and brave step into an uncertain future. He was able to tell his story. Now, we have a great opportunity to do the same.
Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
thanks a ton pauldmps for sharing this memo from Nokia CEO. It tell us that nothing is inevitable in this world. And as we all know it, it is not hard to reach the top, but to remain on the top.
It is nice to know that Nokia has realized it...because it is not too late..it will never be too late. Nokia turned fortunes of Motorola once which no one could have guessed from a small Finland company. Apple with its innovation changed the whole smaprtphone scenario which was not expected from a Mac/ipod producing company and then Android...needs no introduction.
With innovation, Nokia can still strike...people always want change...a better one. If Nokia or any other company, for that matter, is ready to provide that, people will accept it whole heartedly.
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Re: Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
I always quote the example of Samsung. They too are developing their own OS - Bada. But while they're waiting for the platform to catch up, they're selling Android phones.
Nokia too cloud have temporarily adopted Android & later switched to Meego when it is ready. But they decided to suffer profit drops instead.
Adopting Android now will make Nokia a laughing stock in the tech community so there is no other way than to adopt WP7. Still I believe its too late now.
They should've adopted Android two years ago & ditch it at the end of 2011 when Meego gets ready.
Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"
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