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red_devil · 05-03-2009, 03:53 PM

Well well, we all just got luckier. After AIRTEL introduced its Fair Usage Policy, its now the turn of TATA INDICOM.

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TCISL Fair Usage Policy (TCISL FUP)

The evolving internet broadband scenario in India necessitates the management of limited high-speed bandwidth and network resources in the larger interests of Customers. In line with the practice followed by major international Internet Service Providers and in its continuous endeavor to provide best possible Broadband Internet experience to all its customers, TCISL adopts a Fair Usage Policy (TCISL FUP) with an intent to ensure that the excessive bandwidth usage by a small segment of customers does not impact service quality for a large set of customers.

TCISL FUP is applicable to all existing and future unlimited plans offered by TCISL unless specifically withdrawn at the discretion of TCISL. Taking into consideration the maximum reasonable usage required by the average user, Tata Indicom Broadband has established a monthly data transfer threshold (Fair Usage Limit) for the various unlimited tariff plans as given below:

Data transfer in excess of Fair Usage Limit as per the applicable tariff plan shall be treated as a violation of TCISL FUP.

Upon such violation of FUP, TCISL shall contact the Customer suggesting for reduction in usage or upgrade to a higher bandwidth plan.

Despite the above, if the customer fails to upgrade to a high speed plan or continue to violate the TCISL FUP, TCISL reserves the right to suspend or terminate the customer’s account immediately without prejudice to other rights available to TCISL under these Terms and Conditions

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though the limit on the "unlimited" connection is much better than AIRTEL's, TATA Indicom's terms and conditions say that they reserve the right to SUSPEND account

This $UCKS

SOURCE : http://www.tataindicombroadband.in/t...ons.html#new11

Davidboon · 05-03-2009, 03:57 PM

wtf !! fair usage policy on tata indicom .... then surely other isp's will follow soon.

red_devil · 05-03-2009, 03:59 PM

^only a matter of time before everyone follows suite :@

amol48 · 05-03-2009, 04:01 PM

ok now that means other will also follow the suit.. So say bye bye to UL downloads now

I hope BSNL will not follow this however, being a public ltd... but who knows!

Offtopic: I am really feeling good now that I am leaving India and moving to US

rhitwick · 05-03-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by red_devil

though the limit on the "unlimited" connection is much better than AIRTEL's, TATA Indicom's terms and conditions say that they reserve the right to SUSPEND account

This $UCKS

Ya their D/L caps r higher than Airtel but Terms and Conditions are not al all acceptable.
This is extreme...

And none is there to hear us...
What happened to dat online petition we signed for Airtel FUP

Hey, FUP == (Fcuk U People)...yeh bhi ho sakta hai...

red_devil · 05-03-2009, 04:03 PM

^ BSNL WILL follow suite.

Limited "UNLIMITED" Broadband will happen only in India.

Cool G5 · 05-03-2009, 04:05 PM

ohh great, it's time UL becomes L.

And now even Airtel has been rumored to set a limit on Airtel GPRS.

amol48 · 05-03-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by red_devil

^ BSNL WILL follow suite.

Limited "UNLIMITED" Broadband will happen only in India.

Well then we will be the first country in the world to be having the first wonder of the online world!

hellknight · 05-03-2009, 05:12 PM

@amol48..
Moving to US will result in thousands of lawsuits against you.. RIAA and MPAA will be at your service.. moving to Sweden will help though...

Ek to pehli hi India main speed ki lagi padi hai.. and upar se yeh bakwaas.. I'm gonna vote for BJP this summer so as someone like Maran will come and kick Tata Indicom n Airtel's ass

Kl@w-24 · 05-03-2009, 05:36 PM

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In line with the practice followed by major international Internet Service Providers

Why don't they provide the speeds at a comparable rate to 'major international Internet Service Providers'? Bunch of losers!

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to ensure that the excessive bandwidth usage by a small segment of customers does not impact service quality for a large set of customers.

Why should ANY customer of ANY segment suffer coz your infrastructure is too crappy to support them?

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Taking into consideration the maximum reasonable usage required by the average user

Who the f**k are YOU to decide 'reasonable usage'? And who do you think is an 'average user'? I paid for a UL connection. You should have looked up the meaning of 'unlimited' before taking on truckloads of customers and then implementing this sh*tty deal.

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Upon such violation of FUP, TCISL shall contact the Customer suggesting for reduction in usage or upgrade to a higher bandwidth plan.

So that means those stupid customer service representatives will be calling up every 10 days to say 'You have used 3GB of your 5GB limit. Would you like to upgrade to a higher bandwidth plan?'. Get f**king lost, twerp.

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Despite the above, if the customer fails to upgrade to a high speed plan

Oh, so its all about looting more money from your customers. Should have known.

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TCISL reserves the right to suspend or terminate the customer’s account immediately without prejudice to other rights available to TCISL under these Terms and Conditions

And does no one give a damn about the rights of the customers? You bunch of jerks. Go jump off a cliff and die.

thewisecrab · 05-03-2009, 05:51 PM

^^
Funny read.

But we better do something about this F(ucked Usage Policy fast. Like a campaign, or awareness drive or something to get this stupid gr@p to the media, TRAI or somebody before this is active on all networks

red_devil · 05-03-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hellknight

@amol48..
Moving to US will result in thousands of lawsuits against you.. RIAA and MPAA will be at your service.. moving to Sweden will help though...

Ek to pehli hi India main speed ki lagi padi hai.. and upar se yeh bakwaas.. I'm gonna vote for BJP this summer so as someone like Maran will come and kick Tata Indicom n Airtel's ass

yeah US main $hitty legalities....and here its bull$hitty "Fair Usage Policy" .. PICK YOUR POISON

and even if BJP comes to power and they have their minister, that person wont be a 'aasmaan se tapka hua' person ... a few moneybags moving around and he'll legalize it

no use in trusting politicians to do a fair job...atleast not in India

phreak0ut · 05-03-2009, 06:45 PM

Believe it or not, lot of ISPs abroad also do this. The only thing is, they don't make this public. So, in case you download 100GB in half a month and your plan provides you 8Mbps, you are quietly downgraded to around 6Mbps. All this is done, "to keep piracy in check". I heard this from one of my friend.

Hitboxx · 05-03-2009, 07:27 PM

I'd be happy to downgrade to 6Mbps. First provide the speeds and infrastructure like abroad and then we'll talk about it.

So I guess the Airtel petition means squat now.

. . . . into the dumper.

hellknight · 05-03-2009, 07:32 PM

hell yeah.. give me 8 Mbps at this rate and cut it down to 4 Mbps when i'll cross 50 GB.. i'll be more than happy

din · 05-03-2009, 07:40 PM

The limits of TATA are much better than Airtel, but that does not mean they are right in limiting the usage.

Unlimited is unlimited. If they cap it, then why the heck they call it unlimited ?

red_devil · 05-03-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hellknight

hell yeah.. give me 8 Mbps at this rate and cut it down to 4 Mbps when i'll cross 50 GB.. i'll be more than happy

i'm not as greedy as you are...so let them take a 100 extra from me and give that 8Mbps line.

hellknight · 05-03-2009, 07:55 PM

I'm happy to give Rs. 1000 per month for 4 Mbps.. even 2 Mbps..

ichi · 05-03-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by phreak0ut

Believe it or not, lot of ISPs abroad also do this. The only thing is, they don't make this public. So, in case you download 100GB in half a month and your plan provides you 8Mbps, you are quietly downgraded to around 6Mbps. All this is done, "to keep privacy in check". I heard this from one of my friend.

well that happens in already established high speed infrastructures to cope up with demand and quality. But ours is a developing economy and no way we have reached to that segment where we can talk about FUP shite. We are not even getting broadband according to standard, now this whole dumbing down to stonage thing is bloody disgusting.

Look at there mofo's terms

Ramakrishnan · 05-03-2009, 08:43 PM

Now what TRAI has to say about this "fair" policy?

fabler · 05-03-2009, 09:07 PM

I think every ISP gonna follow this...

Jayanth.M.P · 05-03-2009, 09:24 PM

this is going to be followed by all private players.....hope BSNL doesnt do it. These private players want to save on money they pay for bandwidth by implementing policies like this, other international ISPs provide speeds and limits which are practical but with Indian ISPs its the opposite.....

we really need to approach TRAI , DOT as a group and make this a big big issue or else things will get worse......

**Indyan** · 05-03-2009, 09:34 PM

This really sucks. How can u suspend an user for using excessive bandwidth on an UL plan? I am not lawyer but isnt this deceptive business practice? I wonder what the outcome would be if someone filed a case at the consumer court.

Btw, I realise you guys are infuriated but keep the conversion civil and don't use profanities.

spironox · 05-03-2009, 09:35 PM

LISTEN friends !! no need to fight over the issue those giants will hike fare in more terms in a year or so or limit the bandwidth .. what we should do then ?? well revolt against them dont advice any of your friend to buy their products even if one of them is not buying imagine they are loosing customers !

there are idiots out there who dont understand GB MB OR say what internet is , this scheme is ripping the basic consumer right of ours ..

say you got unlimited huh ?