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08-06-2007, 10:38 AM
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Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
since i have a 64 bit processor i am thinking of shifting to 64 bit processing... right now i have Windows XP and LINUX OS installed in 32 bit mode.
1. Can i run all my 32 bit windows and linux softwares in 64 bit OS ?? and viz ??
2. If i shifted to 64 bit OS and Softwares will their be any improvement in the speed??? if yes then how much ??
3. can i run all my heavy games in 64 bit ?
4. is it really worth shifting to 64 bit ?????
if u have anything to tell about 64 bit plz pour in ur suggestions
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08-06-2007, 10:52 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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08-06-2007, 10:55 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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before starting this thread i read that
edited: i read the 32 vs 64 bit section in that site.
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08-06-2007, 12:41 PM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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1. Can i run all my 32 bit windows and linux softwares in 64 bit OS ?? and viz ??
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Not sure for all Linux, but for Any Microsoft Windows x64 (XP, 2k3, Vista, 2k8) comes with one emulator called WOW64 which allows it to run any 32 bit application with out any issue...
But note, Divec drivers wont work with wow64, u will need dedicated 64bit drivers... !!!!
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2. If i shifted to 64 bit OS and Softwares will their be any improvement in the speed??? if yes then how much ??
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well with given Hardware yes... !!Multi Tasking is better with x64 as I have run 4GB RAM and 256 GRFX Card there i saw that with 32bit os i need to use PAE switch to make sure all the memmory get detected and the 3gb swicth to make sure programs can work with more than 3gb RAM....
Where as with x64 there is no such hassle !!!
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3. can i run all my heavy games in 64 bit ?
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well Game is also a piece of Software, so WOW64 will again come in to the picture to make sure all games run without problem, but issue is with Drivers, u have to make sure, u have all proper 64bit drivers installed for each and every device !!!
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4. is it really worth shifting to 64 bit ?????
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if u have such hardware and if u can afford the OS ut self then yes, upgrade to 64bit !!! certainly Windows XP x64 in India is hard to come by and also costlier than the x86 counter part !!!
But saing that I would say, x64 OSes was came in to the picture for mainlly servers, to manage better RAM and Page file and proccesing... how ever as now days Hardware is going so cheap that MS has said that any OS after Vista will only ship in x64 format !!! so x64 is the future !!!
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08-06-2007, 01:41 PM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
@chota cheeta
i was waiting for ur reply... thanks dude for those wonderful replies.
i read that for video editing and for gaming stuff(which includes lot of graphics) 64 bit is not recommended.......
but for faster execution of programs 64 bit is good.
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08-06-2007, 01:52 PM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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i read that for video editing and for gaming stuff(which includes lot of graphics) 64 bit is not recommended.......
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Can u please point that source !!
as seee here, http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx x64 is suppose to performe better in those area !!
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08-06-2007, 01:56 PM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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while googling randomly i came thru some site... dont know which one...
and i saw some benchmarks also between windows xp 32 version and windows xp 64 version.... results where almost same
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08-06-2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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i saw some benchmarks also between windows xp 32 version and windows xp 64 version.... results where almost same
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please mention the source as not always the information on the web is trust worthy !!!
as seen in here at this forum if one makes one ussless comment that Core 2 Duo is crap and not muck better than Pentium 4.... that too gets in to Google Cache so, when searching some one may land up here too reading that C2D is a crap
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08-06-2007, 02:03 PM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
this is wat i found just support for extra ram and faster calcutions of numericals... and no much major difference in 64 bit
and this microsoft people just keep mentioning "stuff like improvement in multimedia and graphics" which wont be true most of the times. they just mention the outline and never go in depth becoz the results will be just the opposite of what they are telling.
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Comparing 32-bit and 64-bit editions of Windows
The major difference between 32-bit and 64-bit editions of Windows is memory support. With more memory, you can run more programs at the same time, and run more memory-intensive programs like multimedia, gaming, and database programs. And your computer's performance will be faster overall.
Currently, 32-bit editions of Windows are capable of supporting up to 4 gigabytes (GB) of system memory, with up to 2 GB of dedicated memory per process. Windows Professional XP Edition x64 currently supports up to 128 GB of RAM, with the potential to support up to 16 terabytes of virtual memory as hardware capabilities and memory sizes improve.
Another difference between 32-bit and 64-bit editions of Windows is the increased number of registers available on 64-bit processors. This enables faster performance for applications that perform intensive floating-point calculations.
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition provides faster performance, increased reliability, and greater flexibility to today's most demanding users. With Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, you can take advantage of the new 64-bit technology to improve your PC or workstation performance.
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08-06-2007, 02:07 PM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
@vish786
see x64 is ment for those who would use RAM 4GB or more, with 512 MB or more GRFX card,
now with 2GB RAM and 256MB card, there is not much of a differce !!!
but personally with me, i feel the differce while Running Virtual PC or Running a AutoGK encoding in back ground and may b my nephew play FAR Cry
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09-06-2007, 12:43 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
Right now x64 linux has better compatibility and support than x64 windows.. Im running Ubuntu x64 and there is not ONE thing im missing!
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09-06-2007, 12:48 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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Im running Ubuntu x64 and there is not ONE thing im missing
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Do u mean There is some thing missing in x64 windows OS ??
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09-06-2007, 12:53 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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Right now x64 linux has better compatibility and support than x64 windows.. Im running Ubuntu x64 and there is not ONE thing im missing! 
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u mean to say u can run all the 32 bit software of linux in ubuntu 64 version... am i right tat way
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09-06-2007, 01:02 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
yes, 64bit linux distro can run 32bit softwares.
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09-06-2007, 01:12 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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yes, 64bit linux distro can run 32bit softwares.
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good morning mehul bhai (its 1.30 am )
what about the performance between 32 bit version and 64 bit version of ubuntu???
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09-06-2007, 01:16 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
I heard from kalpik that 64bit ubuntu is giving him better performance then 32bit version. Since, I don't have 64bit CPU I cannot verify for myself.
It would be a good idea to search around for this in ubuntuforums.org, too.
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09-06-2007, 05:27 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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09-06-2007, 08:33 AM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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Do u mean There is some thing missing in x64 windows OS ??
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Yes, mostly drivers and some software.. With linux, ALL packages (99.9% if you talk about ubunu) are available in 64 bit version too..
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09-06-2007, 09:53 PM
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Re: Windows 32/64 bit & Linux 32/64 bit
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Originally Posted by kalpik
Yes, mostly drivers and some software.. With linux, ALL packages (99.9% if you talk about ubunu) are available in 64 bit version too..
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OK... that's as issue, but at this point of the time, as I said wow64 will run any given 32bit software without any problem with Windows, as with drivers, now days, we have good support for that too in x64 windows !!! , but yeah in past it was an big issue... !!!
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