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[IronManForever]

^^ Duh! ..
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Few stupid questions..

Guys, any idea when Leopard 10.5.7 update will arrive?
What will happen if someone applies 10.5.7 update over 10.5.5 directly?
Why does my MacBook have 10.5.5 update? I think 10.5.6 was available when the unibody macbooks were out?

[goobimama]

@IronMan: I haven't used the Mac with a logitech mouse, so I can't say. But OS X's acceleration is definitely different from windows. With Windows it is more immediate, jerky. On OS X, there's a pick up and slow down of the cursor.

Can you get used to it? If you keep thinking about it, no. If you just keep using it without knowing that such things as acceleration exist, it is definitely something you can get used to. You can also use a mouse on Windows without any problems later on. It's like riding a bike with gears on the left side and then switching over to an Enfield with the gears on the right. After a point of time you don't think about either.

If this bothers you a lot, I'd say SteerMouse is your solution. Did you give the trial a spin?

[IronManForever]

@IronMan: I haven't used the Mac with a logitech mouse, so I can't say. But OS X's acceleration is definitely different from windows. With Windows it is more immediate, jerky. On OS X, there's a pick up and slow down of the cursor.

Can you get used to it? If you keep thinking about it, no. If you just keep using it without knowing that such things as acceleration exist, it is definitely something you can get used to. You can also use a mouse on Windows without any problems later on. It's like riding a bike with gears on the left side and then switching over to an Enfield with the gears on the right. After a point of time you don't think about either.

If this bothers you a lot, I'd say SteerMouse is your solution. Did you give the trial a spin?

NO!! not after all that I've written! I know you didnt read it.

Yes, I did try steermouse. It does seem to improve. But I am having a hard time caliberating it to the best settings. I have not been able to match it with my Windows PC.

If you pay attention, OS X one is actually jerky. I can actually map the whole acceleration curve.. The mouse moves very slow at first, and when user tries to compensate for it by moving faster, it overshoots the target. That actually, is whats jerky.

Its not everyone who faces these problems. And yeah, its not that I cannot manage it at all, but its irritating. Maybe its what you said, I'm paying much more attention to it than I should.

<I'm thinking of getting Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse along with a good 22" Full HD display. That way my setup would be complete.. or maybe not.. >

[goobimama]

Your MacBook shipped with 10.5.5. You can directly upgrade to 10.5.7, when it arrives.

As for the mouse-issue, I haven't used a logitech whatever mouse so I can't say. I did notice some jerky movement when I was forced to use an iBall lazer mouse though (I know that's not the case here). However note that the Mighty Mouse is a love-hate thing. Some people just can't stand the prick. The ball also gets dirty. I like the prick though, but that might just be fanboy-speak.

And I don't think you get full HD 22" displays. Or do you?

[SunnyChahal]

Full HD monitors start from 24".
@Ironman Did you try any of the games that I mentioned?

[Pat]

Its not everyone who faces these problems. And yeah, its not that I cannot manage it at all, but its irritating.

To be honest, I never ever felt any difference in mouse movement on Leopard.

[IronManForever]

^ I trust you. Everyone is born different though, and I just maybe among them.

Your MacBook shipped with 10.5.5. You can directly upgrade to 10.5.7, when it arrives.

Good. I do not have a good internet connection, so downloading the 10.5.6 was something I did not wish to do.

As for the mouse-issue, I haven't used a logitech whatever mouse so I can't say. I did notice some jerky movement when I was forced to use an iBall lazer mouse though (I know that's not the case here). However note that the Mighty Mouse is a love-hate thing. Some people just can't stand the prick. The ball also gets dirty. I like the prick though, but that might just be fanboy-speak.

My mouse is pretty good under windows. Lets see what I can do about mighty mouse, I did get to try it out but not for long, so cant judge.

And I don't think you get full HD 22" displays. Or do you?

Full HD monitors start from 24".

Talking about inventions, Samsung has shown a 7inch Full HD display.
Dell XPS 1530 laptop offered the option of getting Full HD resolution with it. (15 inch screen)
Apple's Macbook Pro 17" offeres Full HD screen.

Full HD resolution is actually 1920x1080. Though 1920x1200 is also regarded as Full HD resolution, maybe becaue of the same horizontal pixel count, maybe because it can accomodate Full HD picture.

What I am looking at is BenQ E2200 HD which is 21.5" 16:9 aspect ratio Full HD screen at 1920x1080. We'll see more of 16:9 inch screens soon, with major manufacturers already releasing their models. BenQ is among the early adopters. As we will have more players soon, I think I should wait.
The BenQ one should look good at my desk though, and it's in matte finish, which I love.
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I'm a kinda guy who HATES 24" Full HD screens. I prefer a higher pixel density. Give me a 20" Full HD screen at a sensible price and I'm buying it today. (we're gonna have those soon)

IronMan.

@Ironman Did you try any of the games that I mentioned?

I tried Urban terror and it exceeds my expecatations out of the platform.
As I said, my Internet sucks, so I have to forget that such things exists. Will try later. Thanks for your effort.

[jamesbond007]

^^^ Seriously dude whats with you guys!! Sometime back there was this guys who got a new Mac and was really worried about Temperatures!! Harddrive Temp, CPU temp, battery temp and what not. And now you talk about Scrolling!!

In my opinion, the MacBook's trackpad is the best trackpad any laptop can have!! Trust me I've used a lot of Notebooks and I've found that MacBook's the best. I don't know about the latest glass trackpads though.

Rule of thumb is, when you get a chance for a change try to adapt to it and see it fits. Give the change a chance!! In my case I've given a fair chance to Mac OS and today I am a Mac and I am proud of it and looks like I may never go back

[SunnyChahal]

^^^ Seriously dude whats with you guys!! Sometime back there was this guys who got a new Mac and was really worried about Temperatures!! Harddrive Temp, CPU temp, battery temp and what not. And now you talk about Scrolling!!

It was me

[IronManForever]

@jamesbond007
seriously, you haven't really understood the situation, have you?

[jamesbond007]

^^^What!! Did you just say that you rate people's IQ by the number of their posts ??!!
I got 622 posts, what's my IQ ??

[IronManForever]

^ Common, not that! I shouldnt be wrong if I say you know a lot more about technology than I do BTW. And your age must speak of a higher IQ (Im just 18).. uh, i wrote 18 and closed paranthesis.. the damn forum put that smiley!

There are friends who have higher IQ than me but are tech noobs. So I should say, IQ and technological knowledge have little in common.

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I'm with you, Macbooks have the best trackpads among laptops, and it got even better with the current ones! But, the OS handles trackpads and normal mice differently, as far as I know.

The thing is about mouse acceleration not scrolling. And nothing to do with a trackpad.

A normal desktop mouse has been indispensable for me, since long. I have used my dad's lappy alot and felt myself cramped with the trackpad. And trackpad, however good it is, cannot replace a mouse when it concerns me. as well as many people I have known.

And I am having a hard time getting accustomed to the changed mouse acceleration. I hope it goes away with time, but its been long enough. goobi said I'm paying too much attention. Maybe thats what it is.

A modified driver, Steermouse has made it easier to traverse distances, but less accurate. There is something even it cant change.

Thats what it is, I have no complains from the OS. I have been accepting the differences I have come across. Stop saying that(im not trying, paying attention, whatever) man! It hurts!

[jamesbond007]

^^^LOL!! Don't take anything seriously, the folks here are a bit cynical
And now some flashbacks of a fool(me):
My first laptop was Vaio VGN-FS38GP around 3 years ago. I was a mouse addict so switching to a portable computer was like hell. I purchased a wireless mouse( of brand Microsoft!!) and was happy to use it with my Notebook. Last October I got MacBook. This was not a choice it was a chance, my friend gifted me the MacBook.

Now, how I went on to become a Mac Convert/Addict is a different story and I can't thank enough the guys who pushed me into Macs... the Milinds, the Aayushs, the Ashwins and few others. Thats a diff story. Coming back to the mouse, like I said I was a mouse addict and wanted to use my MS wireless mouse on MacBook. There were some problems :
The first problem was, I am a right handed and my MacBook has its only 2 USB ports to the left, so I had to connect the usb dongle to the left. This setup wasn't passing the signal properly, so I purchased a usb extension wire. This was a temporary solution as the second problem emerged only moments later.

This my dear is a 'rags to riches' story of a Slumdog!!

Yes! the devil of mouse acceleration, I had to face it too. It was horrible how the mouse responded. Before I could look for solutions, I thought what good is a portable computer if I had to carry the mouse everywhere with it. I gave up the idea of mouse and tried to adapt to the trackpad and like everything about Macs, the trackpad too proved perfect.

Hope you liked this true story.

[dinesh72]

it was painful night yesterday. my imac just refused to start!! i kept getting message "you need to restart blah blah" i tried all sorts like reboot using C, using X, using Option, using Command + Option + P + R but in vain!! Even tried backing up using time machine(install disk - disk utility) but imac never found my back ups. Couldn't wait to post my problem here 'cos i was too excited to have my imac down!! anyway i did new install and system is now up and running.
Well after booting, i tried backing up from time machine but i kept getting errors. i was trying to save downloading all updates again!!!! may be we need a detailed post here as to do what in such cases from our experts.

recently i'd updated quicktime,ilife'08 etc

[SunnyChahal]

Is FilmRedux out?

[Faun]

it was painful night yesterday. my imac just refused to start!! i kept getting message "you need to restart blah blah" i tried all sorts like reboot using C, using X, using Option, using Command + Option + P + R but in vain!! Even tried backing up using time machine(install disk - disk utility) but imac never found my back ups. Couldn't wait to post my problem here 'cos i was too excited to have my imac down!! anyway i did new install and system is now up and running.
Well after booting, i tried backing up from time machine but i kept getting errors. i was trying to save downloading all updates again!!!! may be we need a detailed post here as to do what in such cases from our experts.

recently i'd updated quicktime,ilife'08 etc

Lol...I can feel the excitement Is't it amazing to have a software which you can use to timely crash your system and then you get another lovely chance to reinstall again

I gave up the idea of mouse and tried to adapt to the trackpad and like everything about Macs, the trackpad too proved perfect.

Hope you liked this true story.

You are taking a basic idea too far. Give a man only bow and arrow, he will make a better use of it. Even amateurs laced with guns will fail in front of him.

It's human nature, the art of getting used to when they think it's the only option.

[jamesbond007]

^^^Whatever that meant... it sounded good!!

[IronManForever]

@ Jamesbond007
Yeah, the ports on the left are odd, I didn't complain thinking maybe someone big at Apple is lefty? Steve? Ive? Tribute to Woz? or insult to Bill Gates who's righty?

[jamesbond007]

I have this non-admin user account setup on my MacBook for my younger bro who likes to use my MacBook every now and then. For the last week he's been complaining that he was unable to sign in Yahoo Messenger, yahoomail and gmail. Today, I logged into the non-admin acc to check if everything is right. I had to face the same problem.



I tried 'Empty Cache' and 'Reset Safari' but no use. I checked all the settings and still couldn't get past this problem. My admin acc that I always use is working fine. I deleted this non-admin acc and created a new non-admin acc ..... still the problem persists!!
Any ideas guys ??

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Turns out Parental control for the non-admin acc is the devil. But, the point is I've used Parental control with only one setting and that is to restrict certain app like Drive Genius, Disk Utility etc as misusing them may screw my MacBook. I've set unrestricted access to websites but still the problem existed. Turning off the Parental Control for the non-admin acc has solved the problem. Sounds like Parental controls are buggy!!

[SunnyChahal]

Hello Macbois,need some help here. I want to stream videos from my iMac to my PS3 as both are on the same local network. Any help?

[jamesbond007]

^^^Streaming videos between computers is a breeze with VLC. I have no idea how PS3 works ? Googling brought some stuff and as I don't own PS3 ( God I wish I had this!! ) can't say anything

[aryayush]

Hello, guys.

How’s everyone doing?

I’m thrilled to see that this thread is still going strong. How come you’re still a moderator though, Milind? Didn’t you say you had resigned all those months ago?

Anyway, can someone suggest a good, native, non open source disk burning application for Mac OS X besides the way-too-expensive Toast and crappy Disco?

[iMav]

Hmmm ... how about Parallels + Vista + Nero. Not open source, not costly, native to Windows & pretty good.

[aryayush]

Guess what I am busy doing ??

- IMAGE -

Oh I am lovin' it, wish there was 'Kiss to Confirm' and not 'Click to Confirm'

LOL! That’s definitely not what it was intended for.

Hmmm ... how about Parallels + Vista + Nero. Not open source, not costly, native to Windows & pretty good.

LOL! OK, so just for the sake of fun, here’s the breakdown:
Parallels 4: $80
Microsoft® Windows™ Vista Home Basic (ultimate insanely supreme blah blah blah edition): $200+
Nero 9: $80
The ridiculousness of the entire idea: Priceless!

[SunnyChahal]

Found out Nullriver Medialink for my video streaming purpose. Awesome application! HD videos stream silky smooth. Must have if you own a PS3.

[IronManForever]

good, native, non open source disk burning application for Mac OS X

I do not know of any such apps. I was actually amazed why you would not want an open-source app, if it gets your job done well.

[SunnyChahal]

^^
He is anti-GNU/Linux/OSS

[gxsaurav]

Anyway, can someone suggest a good, native, non open source disk burning application for Mac OS X besides the way-too-expensive Toast and crappy Disco?

Check this. http://macapper.com/2007/02/13/showd...-disc-burners/

I prefer Disco, what do u find "crappy" about it? It is the only disk burner which allows me to make UDF Multisession DVDs on a Mac

[aryayush]

Check this. http://macapper.com/2007/02/13/showd...-disc-burners/

I prefer Disco, what do u find "crappy" about it? It is the only disk burner which allows me to make UDF Multisession DVDs on a Mac

Thanks.

Disco has created coasters out of a lot of my disks, but I guess that may have just been my SuperDrive…

[jamesbond007]

My personal favorite disc burning app is K3B, I wish we had a Mac Version for it.
On Mac my fav is Disco!!
I use Disco to burn my MKV collection
I use BurnAgain for my multi session data disks
For images Toast and Disk Utility
And for other purposes I use Toast(again!) and LiquidCD

Unfortunately none of the above are OSS but hey LiquidCD is free I guess!!