windows 7 64 bit?

hirenjp · 10-12-2011, 10:20 PM

I want to install windows 7 x64 ?but i don"t know difference between 32 bit & 64 bit?
my PC configuration is 2GB RAM,500GB hard disk,Core 2 duo processor (2.93Ghz),Intel G41 motherboard.my PC configuration meets minimum requirements for windows 7 64 bit?
and why 64 bit O.S. is better then 32 bit?

Rajesh345 · 10-12-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hirenjp

I want to install windows 7 x64 ?but i don"t know difference between 32 bit & 64 bit?
my PC configuration is 2GB RAM,500GB hard disk,Core 2 duo processor (2.93Ghz),Intel G41 motherboard.my PC configuration meets minimum requirements for windows 7 64 bit?
and why 64 bit O.S. is better then 32 bit?

32-bit and 64-bit Windows: frequently asked questions

1) in short 64 Bit OS is better than 32 bit ,can use more than 3.5gb of memory

2) U need 64 bit CPU to install 64 bit OS

hirenjp · 10-12-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajesh345

32-bit and 64-bit Windows: frequently asked questions

1) in short 64 Bit OS is better than 32 bit ,can use more than 3.5gb of memory

2) U need 64 bit CPU to install 64 bit OS

how do i know that my CPU 64 bit or not?is there any method to check.

**Sam** · 10-12-2011, 11:14 PM

currently all processors support 64bit OS.

hirenjp · 10-12-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

currently all processors support 64bit OS.

i have core 2 duo pocessor 2.93 Ghz & 2 GB RAM.shall it support win 7 64 bit.

dashing.sujay · 11-12-2011, 12:24 AM

Look in device manager.

1) Under processors, open properties > details > Hardware Ids.

It should be something like "ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6_Model_42"
64 here proves that your CPU is 64 bit.

hirenjp · 11-12-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dashing.sujay

Look in device manager.

1) Under processors, open properties > details > Hardware Ids.

It should be something like "ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6_Model_42"
64 here proves that your CPU is 64 bit.

when i checked as per your method processors, open properties > details > Hardware Ids in device manager then X86 family appear but when i checked windows 7 Advisor it says that its compatible with windows 7 x64.

NitrousNavneet · 11-12-2011, 02:19 PM

I have a que. also ? {may be more than 1}
Why my 7 running Net without LAN driver?
and My mother board is also compatible with 7

But there is no Lan driver for windows 7 64 in Asus site

I have tikona connection and it gives me speed of 2 mbps for first 4 gbs, but it is giving me speed of 256 kb only . is it because there is no LAN driver?

hirenjp · 11-12-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousNavneet

I have a que. also ? {may be more than 1}
Why my 7 running Net without LAN driver?
and My mother board is also compatible with 7

But there is no Lan driver for windows 7 64 in Asus site

I have tikona connection and it gives me speed of 2 mbps for first 4 gbs, but it is giving me speed of 256 kb only . is it because there is no LAN driver?

hi NitrousNavneet,
my configuration is almost same as you have.
are you running windows 64 bit really?if yes then positive signal for me?i also interested to install win 7 X64.
and as per your speed concern every internet service provide give 230-250 speed for 2mbps connection.

NitrousNavneet · 11-12-2011, 02:40 PM

Current Speed is

But i get 260-270 at the place of 30.9

hirenjp · 11-12-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousNavneet

Current Speed is

But i get 260-270 at the place of 30.9

hey navneet i think there is two steps which solve your problem.
1)virus problem in your PC.so update your antivirus & Scan your full PC.problem still then follow 2 step.

2)contact your tikona internet service provider & launch complaint they will change your network setting.(IP Address etc).

clmlbx · 11-12-2011, 03:00 PM

@NitrousNavneet that is Know As "F.U.P" after usage of 4GB you get only speed of 256kbps.. check ur plan on internet or call customer care . they will tell you more about F.U.P active on your Connection..

Zangetsu · 12-12-2011, 10:39 AM

@hirenjp: your proccy supports 64bit OS.
for more details use speccy.

@NitrousNavneet: LAN driver is needed when u use LAN Card.

NitrousNavneet · 12-12-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hirenjp

hey navneet i think there is two steps which solve your problem.
1)virus problem in your PC.so update your antivirus & Scan your full PC.problem still then follow 2 step.
.

Please suggest a good AV I have 1year net protector ,But topgear told me to
not install so i didn't install it in 7.

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Originally Posted by Zangetsu

@NitrousNavneet: LAN driver is needed when u use LAN Card.

How?? I mean that there is no Lan Driv. in support site and How my net and speaker are running without Drivers.?

hirenjp · 12-12-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousNavneet

Please suggest a good AV I have 1year net protector ,But topgear told me to
not install so i didn't install it in 7.

AS per my Advice download & install kaspersky antivirus or ESET (NODE 32) Antivirus.if you do not want to install antivirus software then try kasper sky online scanner or eset online scanner.

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noob · 12-12-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hirenjp

i have core 2 duo pocessor 2.93 Ghz & 2 GB RAM.shall it support win 7 64 bit.

All CORE 2 DUO CPU are 64 bit. As you have 2 GB RAM, you won't see any difference in performance.

hirenjp · 12-12-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by noob

All CORE 2 DUO CPU are 64 bit. As you have 2 GB RAM, you won't see any difference in performance.

thanks noob, now i am confident after listening from u all that my system is compatible with 64 bit OS.but there is some software which do not run in 64 bit OS.this information i got from windows 7 upgrade advisor.

is there any possibility to run these program in compatibility mode or In windows 7 there is XP mode is also there where we can use that 32 bit program?

and yes i have virtualization technology but XP mode feature required atleast 3GB RAM,but my system has 2 GB RAM(DDR2) is there any way to use 4GB (DDR3) in same machine or i have to buy DDR2 type only.

noob · 12-12-2011, 06:15 PM

All 32 bit softwares are backward compatible. BUT dont install 64 bit OS as you wont be getting any performance improvement over 32 bit as you have only 2 GB RAM.

Also, make sure you have all the 64 bit drivers for your devices. Usually Windows installs it ..but still in some cases you might need to manually install 64-bit device drivers.

To run any application in XP mode , simply right click on that file/icon and set its compatibility level to 'Windows XP'

hirenjp · 12-12-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by noob

All 32 bit softwares are backward compatible. BUT dont install 64 bit OS as you wont be getting any performance improvement over 32 bit as you have only 2 GB RAM.

Also, make sure you have all the 64 bit drivers for your devices. Usually Windows installs it ..but still in some cases you might need to manually install 64-bit device drivers.

To run any application in XP mode , simply right click on that file/icon and set its compatibility level to 'Windows XP'

ok so you have to say that upgrade of RAM Make performance better.so,please tell me that.my system will support 4GB RAM(DDR3)?as my 2GB RAM IS (DDR2).

noob · 12-12-2011, 07:09 PM

if your motherboard supports DDR3 then no issues..else you need to get DDR2 RAM

Exactly which D41 model ? we have DG41WV(supports DDR3) , DG41RQ & DG41TY(does NOT supports DDR3)

hirenjp · 12-12-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by noob

if your motherboard supports DDR3 then no issues..else you need to get DDR2 RAM

Exactly which D41 model ? we have DG41WV(supports DDR3) , DG41RQ & DG41TY(does NOT supports DDR3)

Ohh its my bad luck that i have DG41RQ.Ok no problem.is there 4gb,6gb and 8gb DDR2 all are available?how much cost for these all?which RAM Brand is best?

noob · 12-12-2011, 09:02 PM

Corsair , Kingston , Transcend are good brands... Make sure that if you are going to use same old RAM then buy new one having same frequency..

hirenjp · 12-12-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by noob

Corsair , Kingston , Transcend are good brands... Make sure that if you are going to use same old RAM then buy new one having same frequency..

To skip Compatibility issue i will buy Kingston only because i already have kingston 2GB RAM DDR2 RAM.thanks Noob.

meetdilip · 13-12-2011, 08:07 AM

You can install 64 bit Windows on 2 GB RAM too, just that it won't give any advantage. It will work like a 32 bit Windows.

**ico** · 13-12-2011, 08:40 AM

Been tired of repeating this a thousand times.

AMD invented the 64-bit architecture which was backwards compatible with x86 or 32-bit. This architecture is known as 'amd64'. Intel because they are morons, on the other hand were pursuing a completely new 64-bit architecture named Itanium 64 or IA-64 which was NOT backwards compatible with x86 or 32-bit. This was to earn more money $$. IA-64 failed because of this reason. Then Intel licensed 'amd64' from AMD and calls it "Intel 64" now for obvious reasons.

amd64 is also called x86_64 or x64. Intel prefers calling it "Intel 64" because of obvious reasons.

So, every processor out there in the market now is an amd64 processor. This is the reason WHY you are able to use a 32-bit OS currently in your Core 2 Duo processor. And this is again the reason why you will be able to use 32-bit applications in a 64-bit OS if you install it.

Cleared?

Ignore what Windows 7 upgrade advisor says. Every 32-bit application works fine in Windows 7 64-bit.

There you go. See in the screenshot and see how many 32-bit applications I am running completely fine. example, Avast AntiVirus.

Spoiler:

The only thing you need to take care of is, install 64-bit hardware drivers. That's it.

coolpcguy · 13-12-2011, 11:54 AM

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Intel because they are morons, on the other hand were pursuing a completely new 64-bit architecture named Itanium 64 or IA-64 which was NOT backwards compatible with x86 or 32-bit. This was to earn more money $$. This was to earn more money $$. IA-64 failed because of this reason

No.

The Itanium was targeted at servers. Not at consumers. Intel wanted to continue the 32-bit brigade for consumers & the IA-64 at the high-end server market.

AMD, however with their amd64 architecture hit the consumer market. IA-64 was massively delayed & Intel to had license it from AMD to remain in the consumer space.

13-12-2011, 12:18 PM

pretty much the same thing...intel would have released ia-64 for consumers too for increasing their margins if any consumer wanted to use more than 3.5 gb ram. 3.5 gb ram bubble had to burst.

u can see what they do now....non-overclockable processors...overclockable processors....non-overclockable chipset...overclockable chipset. only to increase their margins.

dashing.sujay · 13-12-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by meetdilip

You can install 64 bit Windows on 2 GB RAM too, just that it won't give any advantage. It will work like a 32 bit Windows.

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Originally Posted by ico

Every 32-bit application works fine in Windows 7 64-bit.

It makes no sense installing 32 bit apps on 64 bit, unless 64 bit is not available. Because 64-bit OS/apps give 30-40% performance increase (read as better execution of instruction set).

noob · 13-12-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ico

Been tired of repeating this a thousand times.

AMD invented the 64-bit architecture which was backwards compatible with x86 or 32-bit. This architecture is known as 'amd64'. Intel because they are morons, on the other hand were pursuing a completely new 64-bit architecture named Itanium 64 or IA-64 which was NOT backwards compatible with x86 or 32-bit. This was to earn more money $$. IA-64 failed because of this reason. Then Intel licensed 'amd64' from AMD and calls it "Intel 64" now for obvious reasons.

amd64 is also called x86_64 or x64. Intel prefers calling it "Intel 64" because of obvious reasons.

So, every processor out there in the market now is an amd64 processor. This is the reason WHY you are able to use a 32-bit OS currently in your Core 2 Duo processor. And this is again the reason why you will be able to use 32-bit applications in a 64-bit OS if you install it.

Cleared?

Ignore what Windows 7 upgrade advisor says. Every 32-bit application works fine in Windows 7 64-bit.

There you go. See in the screenshot and see how many 32-bit applications I am running completely fine. example, Avast AntiVirus.

Spoiler:

The only thing you need to take care of is, install 64-bit hardware drivers. That's it.

why this stupid KIES is still installed on your system ? O.oo

**ico** · 13-12-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dashing.sujay

It makes no sense installing 32 bit apps on 64 bit, unless 64 bit is not available. Because 64-bit OS/apps give 30-40% performance increase (read as better execution of instruction set).

no. This is a complete myth. The difference is only in how much RAM they can utilize. Generally.video encoders are helped. Except those hardly 5% boost in general. And running 32-bit apps is also doesn't mean performance penalty.

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Originally Posted by noob

why this stupid KIES is still installed on your system ? O.oo

To check firmware updates on a random day.