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Old 24-05-2011, 11:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello Guys ,

Currently i have k-lite and MPC and MPC HC in my Win7 64 bit
I too have core AVC professional 2.5.5

I should open the 720p/1080Rip Files in MPC or MPC HC

I am unable to Figure the difference ..
Please help me out

What will be the Best playback ( quality ) settings ..

No matter about hardware .. I run GTX 260 ! With onboard 4GB RAM

Some comparison Here :

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http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/54155
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1)Vlc snap is .png format and MPC is .jpeg ..so less details !!

2)Sorry could'nt snap the exact same frames !

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Old 24-05-2011, 12:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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First of all i would recommened to uninstall the COre AVC COdec , i had once installed them together and faced all kinds of crashes

Secondly , maybe the MPC and MPC - HC are not that different . Just install the latest K-Lite COdec Pack and make sure while installing to Check "Enable Hardware Accelaration for H.264 Playback"

I can play 1080p REMUX Videos [ 39 GB Inception ] on my Old Pentium 4 3 GHz PC with 256 MB RAM [ Yes 256 MB ] and 8600GT 256MB DDR3.
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Old 24-05-2011, 12:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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First of all i would recommened to uninstall the COre AVC COdec , i had once installed them together and faced all kinds of crashes

Secondly , maybe the MPC and MPC - HC are not that different . Just install the latest K-Lite COdec Pack and make sure while installing to Check "Enable Hardware Accelaration for H.264 Playback"

I can play 1080p REMUX Videos [ 39 GB Inception ] on my Old Pentium 4 3 GHz PC with 256 MB RAM [ Yes 256 MB ] and 8600GT 256MB DDR3.
You really want me to uninstall core ??
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Old 24-05-2011, 01:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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why do you guys even install codec packs ? I used to do that but now VLC is more than enough.
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+1 for Faun. I also don't install any codec pack and never failed to play anything in both VLC & MPC-HC.
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Old 24-05-2011, 03:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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+1 for Faun. I also don't install any codec pack and never failed to play anything in both VLC & MPC-HC.
Ya, Agree Boss
I too have VLC !!!

But what in the case of internal filters ??

eg; I face deinterlacing prob and see lines in motion in VLC - It was a DVD-5
But MPC got Rid of those !!
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Actually never faced that sort of scenario. Besides VLC also support deinterlacing and GPU acceleration. And I guess we were talking about needlessness of codec packs. I use both VLC and MPC - frankly speaking never really felt much difference.
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Old 24-05-2011, 04:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Sorry pal , I could compare the exact frame

But i think this could be a good example








And This is MPC :

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Those screenshots are awesome man! Really put the nail on the head. Will go back to home to see if I can replicate that or I was just plain lucky.

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Those screenshots are awesome man! Really put the nail on the head. Will go back to home to see if I can replicate that or I was just plain lucky.

Thanks buddy.
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But tell me what software to use and cut the .Vob

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Those screenshots are awesome man! Really put the nail on the head. Will go back to home to see if I can replicate that or I was just plain lucky.

Thanks buddy.
Hey pal,

Some comparison Here :

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/54146
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/54155
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1)Vlc snap is .png format and MPC is .jpeg ..so less details !!

2)Sorry could'nt snap the exact same frames !

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Very impressive. What filters have you used in MPC?
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Now I have to search what I was missing all this time.
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Well it happens to me many times. Some videos don't play nicely in one player while they will in other player. But mostly MPC is winner in my case and sometimes VLC. Also VLC have some kind of problem with seeking but MPC is fine in that case.
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Well it happens to me many times. Some videos don't play nicely in one player while they will in other player. But mostly MPC is winner in my case and sometimes VLC. Also VLC have some kind of problem with seeking but MPC is fine in that case.
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I use MPC-HC along with Ffdshow. I disable almost everything in MPC and let ffdshow handle it.

Many people prefer VLC but my opinion is MPC brings forth a hell lot more details in color and such.

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I use MPC-HC along with Ffdshow. I disable almost everything in MPC and let ffdshow handle it.

Many people prefer VLC but my opinion is MPC brings forth a hell lot more details in color and such.
Well people prefer VLC for a good reason. It plays any file you throw at it hell it can ever repair your files which are kind of broken but MPC can't. Also With MPC I have to install K-Lite Mega Codec pack to use all the features while VLC has no such hassles but yes I do agree that MPC when combined with K-Lite can handle almost anything you throw and play Blu Ray better than VLC.
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Yes, that repair options saves me in quite a few times. I have never installed any codec pack but now may try to see if I was missing anything all these times.
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Except deinter ... I don't see any distinct changes with VLC vs MPC

But only after core AVC pro !
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De-interlace

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Sorry abt that !
Well I actually googled that term and found nothing about this topic at all.
Well I observed some minor differences. Like Subtitle works better in VLC than MPC and seeking works better in MPC than VLC. Say if I have to see a scene longing several seconds then keep the mouse at that place and try seeking at that position again and again VLC would have problem but MPC would work fine. Also both have a lot of tweaks and you can find the difference in them.
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Well I actually googled that term and found nothing about this topic at all.
Well I observed some minor differences. Like Subtitle works better in VLC than MPC and seeking works better in MPC than VLC. Say if I have to see a scene longing several seconds then keep the mouse at that place and try seeking at that position again and again VLC would have problem but MPC would work fine. Also both have a lot of tweaks and you can find the difference in them.
anyhow , nowadays i a, using

MPC + Core AVC pro for all my HD playback and they are really eye candy ! stunning !

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^^ Why not K-Lite Mega codec pack ???
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^^ Why not K-Lite Mega codec pack ???
I have K-lite pre installed with MPC
I like the Core AVC decoder ( Slower - in my GTX 260 )

Donno technically
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^^ So K-Lite doesn't do the job well???
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^^ So K-Lite doesn't do the job well???
No - I didn't mean like that
I Have been using K-lite all these days
Just now i feel that Core is better .. colours and deblocking and all that

That's y i posted it here !
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^^ I saw your comparisions and yes VLC does have problems sometimes but I guess MPC works best with K-Lite Mega Codec Pack. You just have to tweak some settings and you'll get the quality.
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^^ I saw your comparisions and yes VLC does have problems sometimes but I guess MPC works best with K-Lite Mega Codec Pack. You just have to tweak some settings and you'll get the quality.
Tweak setting In MPC ??
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No. Not in MPC in the K-Lite configuration tools.
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