The Official Windows 7 Discussion Thread

[gxsaurav]

Windows 7 beta is just released & Microsoft is planning for a 2nd quarter release of Windows this year. You can grab Windows 7 beta either from torrents of from Official Windows 7 Beta Customer Preview Program. Please use this thread to discuss all queries & bugs related to Windows 7, State what bugs you find here & what applications are working fine/not working

Caution : Windows 7 has a bug in WMP12 due to which it can corrupt your mp3 files. Make sure you install KB961367.

If you are using a dual boot setup like I am then do not install Nokia PC Suite on Windows 7. Doing so will wipe all the settings from Vista's partition too

The key you get from Official Beta download website will be for Beta version only & will not install on Windows 7 final version.

You can still use Windows 7 for up to 4 months by Rearming Windows Activation.

The original built number is 7000.
Before you proceed...

1.Windows 7 is not a trialware. The 30 days time period is for Activation only. If you do not activate Windows in the 30 days time period, then kindly uninstall it.

2.You can install Windows 7 without burning a DVD.

i.Mount the ISO using a Virtual CD Software such as Daemon Tools & run Setup.
ii.Select to download any update required & send feedback to Microsoft because this is beta version.
iii.Select to do a custom install during installation & not an upgrade.
iv.Give the path of an empty partition. Windows 7 requires at least 11 GB of hard disk space for installation.
v.Proceed with installation.

3.The best place to find drivers for Windows 7 is Windows Update which has latest version of all Windows 7 compatible drivers. If you are unable to find a driver for Windows 7 then you can install Windows Vista driver in compatibility mode using this method...

Right click on the Driver Setup file -> Compatibility -> Windows Vista

4.You can provide feedback only if you have an activated copy of Windows 7. Please do not close services like Automatic Update, Bits & Windows Error reporting.

5.Windows 7 is like Windows Vista from inside due to which many drivers, applications & system tweaking commands will work same as in Vista.

6.If you are using a Dual boot Setup along with your existing operating system then you do not need to reinstall all the applications again to use them in Windows 7. Start the setup of your application & during the installation give the installation path as \old OS drive\Program Files\Folder in which the same application is installed in the old OS. This way Windows 7 will just make new settings for Windows 7 in its own Drive.

7.If you are using Windows Vista & dual booting Windows 7 then you can use the old settings again without re-configuring everything again, as long as the application does not saves settings in registry. To do this just copy the application’s “Settings Folder” from Windows Vista & paste it in Windows 7. Usually they are in \users\username\appdata\locale & \users\username\appdata\Roaming\ folder. Paste them to the similar folder in Windows 7’s drive.

Keep an eye on my blog for some updates & things people usually miss in Windows 7 but they make a difference.

[mrbgupta]

https://www.microsoft.com/betaexperi...s/default.aspx

Is this page really opening? trying for last 1 hour without luck.

[gxsaurav]

The key Servers are choked right now due to heavy traffic. The key you get from Official Beta download website will be for Beta version only & will not install on Windows 7 final version.

You can still use Windows 7 for up to 4 months by Rearming Windows Activation.

[Charan]

Thanks for the tips

[rollcage]

Hey .. I have 6936-x64 installed.

these are not working..

1. Daemon Tools (plz tell me a alternative small on resources .. is there any like MS Virtual Drive Tool for XP)
2. Nokia Software Updater
3. Cannot play CBT Nuggets _ Windows Media Player doesnt recgnise WMV MSS2 Codec.

Regards..n let us know what u have explored till now saurav

[debsuvra]

OK, I got it, waiting for the DVD to be burnt.

[connexion]

for info on how to install windows 7 using microsoft virtual pc check out this link
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/1...out-dvd-media/

[Krazy Bluez]

Thanks for the info bro !!!!

[thewisecrab]

No matter what I try, those "direct" links re-direct to Win 7 official Page even after copy-pasting it in the address bar on both IE7 and FF 3.1.

[MetalheadGautham]

Is the public testing version out yet ?
I am planning to install it over Windows XP.
Tell me if it will run on 256MB RAM.
But yeah, I am getting 1GB if luck is still on my side.

[redhat]

Since the EULA says we can share the copy of windows 7 BETA freely, cant we share the license key for the beta??

[gxsaurav]

Originally Posted by rollcage

Hey .. I have 6936-x64 installed.

You will need to a do a clean install from a bootable DVD if this is the only OS installed in your PC.

1. Daemon Tools (plz tell me a alternative small on resources .. is there any like MS Virtual Drive Tool for XP)

Try installing Daemon Tools in Vista compatibility mode. If not then the MS Virtual Drive Power toy will work find with Windows

2. Nokia Software Updater

This won't work it seems. Mine isn't working either.

3. Cannot play CBT Nuggets _ Windows Media Player doesnt recgnise WMV MSS2 Codec.

Is it playing in some other media player like MPC which is also DirectShow based.

Regards..n let us know what u have explored till now saurav

Nothing, ATI drivers are giving problems & Windows is not booting now. Will remove the drivers from safe mode in evening. Right now in office

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

Is the public testing version out yet ?

Yes.

I am planning to install it over Windows XP.
Tell me if it will run on 256MB RAM.

No, it won't run. Stick to Linux. Windows isn't for you,

Since the EULA says we can share the copy of windows 7 BETA freely, cant we share the license key for the beta??

EULA says you can share the Copy of Windows 7, means the DVD. You cannot share the Key. The key will activate on one computer only.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

No, it won't run. Stick to Linux. Windows isn't for you,

Then whats the minimum RAM required ?
And does GMA900 have capacity to run Windows 7 graphics ?

[abhisheksohal]

I plan to buy a laptop with 4 gb ram..and want to run windows 7 on it. Will I have to install Windows 7 64 bit on it ?? coz otherwise i think 512 mb ram of my laptop will get wasted. But then i think some programs,games etc. wont run on 64-bit OS..right?? If so then should i go for 32 bit windows 7 and sacrifice my 512 mb ram for the time being?? or is this the right time to shift to 64 bit?? Also can i do one thing that i have dual bootup with one 32 bit vista and 64 bit windows 7??

[desiibond]

i had tested win7 64 bit (prebeta) and i had not faced any problem with compatibility. go ahead and download 64-bit version of win7.

[abhisheksohal]

So will each and every 32-bit program which one usually uses like Office,antivirus,dap,media players,codecs,nero,acrobat reader,messengers and all latest games work on 640bit windows 7?? I searched on the net and found that crysis 32 bit doesn run on 64-bit ,any idea?? What about other game titles like gta4,nfs:uc,Pop etc.?? Please clarify everything.. thnx..

[debsuvra]

Having problem with the installation disk itself. I burned the image 5 times (two in DVD-Rs and they are both wasted & three in DVD-RWs) and everytime it does not boot and displays the following error:

BootCD: Cant boot from Disk. Error:5

People over the web had similar problems earlier and there is a solution with chaging "Number of loaded sectors:" from 1 to 4 in the "Boot" tab under "Enable expert settings" in Nero. But I don't see that thing in Nero 9.

Anyone having the same problem? Just wasted 2 disks now

[gary4gar]

Installed Windows 7, It asked me to install Antivirus scanner.

then in suggestion gave Nortan 360 version 3.0 BETA, anyone else running this version?


which AV should we use?

[gforce23]

Could anyone tell me if these programs are working?

KIS 2009
SE PC Suite
SopCast

Thanks!

[rollcage]

oh ya... I finally done with download on my slow 256kbps DSL line .. 3.15Gbs ../
and Just finished fresh installation of Win7 x64 7000. (after customising using vlite to remove unrequired stuff, like Speech, Natural Language, and Windows Search).

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

You will need to a do a clean instal;

Ya did a Clean Install (custom option).. but what the heck ya.. I was on x64 6936 built.. and still i had to complete reinstall.
Its high time the M$ guyz start supporting update like ubuntu n others.
I am not a linux fan but its like a necessity now..

Try installing Daemon Tools in Vista compatibility mode. If not then the MS Virtual Drive Power toy will work find with Windows

tried that but it didnt work even in compatibilty.
MagicISO suggest an optional Freeware .. Magic Drive.. tried that and that made my pc barbaad.. i mean read kharab. had to take the restore from Acronis Drive Backup.

Can you give me link for the MS Virtual Drive .. cant find the version for Vista x64!!

Is it playing in some other media player like MPC which is also DirectShow based.

Yes it played in MPC partially, but couldnt set the Fast Speed option, and This is the first video codec that I have seen that VLC refused to play.. amusing... strange ..

Anyways, I suppose M$ has fixed the issue of Windows Media Player 12 in build 7000.
Now, I can play my tutorials Videos in fast speed mode, without running a Vista in VM-Ware hahaha yippee..

and yes. . people .. install KB961367 to save ur MP3 files. available in x86 and x64 option

Nothing, ATI drivers are giving problems & Windows is not booting now. Will remove the drivers from safe mode in evening. Right now in office

ya it seems there is problem on my side too.. The HD 3200 driver was installed fine .. working good, but if i choose to install the optional upgrade in Windows update to .. new driver dated 30-12-2008.. its pre-wdm 1.1 something... that made display little weird .. so changed back the driver by choosing Roll-Back Driver.

Also, in optional Update there is a option to install 70Kb driver update to Realtek LAN, that also not recommended bcoz it made for internet to stop working. so had to rollback.

NOTE: so dont install these two in windows update!!

EULA says you can share the Copy of Windows 7, means the DVD. You cannot share the Key. The key will activate on one computer only.

I download the ORBIT_30 torrent file, where do I go for the key.

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Originally Posted by abhisheksohal

I plan to buy a laptop with 4 gb ram..Will I have to install Windows 7 64 bit on it ??

DUDE ......... INSTALL 64BIT OS !!!
forget x86 with that config..

Originally Posted by gary4gar

Installed Windows 7, It asked me to install Antivirus scanner.
then in suggestion gave Nortan 360 version 3.0 BETA, anyone else running this version?
which AV should we use?

AV you can use any of the popular ones. Kaspersky, NOD32, AntiVir, etc.

I use NOD32 64bit ed v.3.0.884 + Windows Defender.
and have Spy Bot Search & Destroy installed with no TeaTimer (not running in realtime).


.

[amitava82]

Finally I decided to install it and did an upgrade from X64 Vista. Everything is working so far. Made a backup, so if anything goes wrong i'm gonna restore back. First impression? Does not boot any faster than Vista, in fact, bit slower. Probably all reviews of Windows 7 is done using clean installation. So it "feels" faster in terms of boot time. But it's more responsive than Vista.

[gary4gar]

Microsoft needs to tune IE8, it keeps crashing again & again. IMO, its the most unstable part of windows 7.

It crashed 5 times, in past 2hrs
Installed firefox, which is much more stable


anyone knows how to remove it fully?

[edit]
anyone knows who do get Finderprint/Biometric devices working?

[vandit]

ok so anyone facing problems with ATI 3450 gfx card ?? I am planning to do a virtual box installation...any special notes? apart from that mp3 fix ??

[cooldudie3]

Got Windows 7 running on my mac here using VirtualBox. Have Firefox, AVG Free and Live Essentials installed.
@vandit:
As long you have the drivers for Vista everything should work fine. I am runnning in VirtualBox in Mac OS 10.5.6 and everything is working fine. Games for sure will not work but everything will work in an acceptable speed.

@MetalheadGautham:
The RAM requirement is 1GB/1024MB. You can try to run it lower than the required amount and report what will happen. If it doesn't work install the 1GB RAM and reinstall the system.

@gary4gar:
I am using Windows Defender(included) and AVG 8 Free. They are both working fine and will turn off the Action Center notifications.

[amitava82]

How the hell do you report bug? Don't tell me "Send Feedback" is the only way to do it.. anyway, I sent one.

[sachin_kothari]

Running Windows 7 on 512 MB Ram and it feels as if i am running XP with Vista Look and Feel. Only sound drivers is an issue, rest all is fine.

[gxsaurav]

Microsoft needs to tune IE8, it keeps crashing again & again. IMO, its the most unstable part of windows 7.

You are using Windows 7 beta with IE 8 Beta, crashes happen. This is why you have the submit feedback button.

I uninstalled the ATI drivers & now using Windows 7 again. I don't even need to install some application again. I m just running small applications such as Google talk or yahoo messenger from Vista's
partition, they just create a new settings folder in Windows 7's Users folder.

Photoshop CS4 doesn't work this way though, but after installing it in Windows 7 at the same location of Vista it is working fine. Although crashes when I use the real time zoom function of Photoshop CS4. Windows Vista will still be my production OS as I don't want to reinstall everything in Win7.

Need for Speed Undercover works fine after installing the DirectX 9c run time. No need to reinstall, I am just using the old installation.

So far the applications I actually installed are

1) Windows Live writer to blog directly
2) Drivers for my hardware.
3) Adobe Flash runtime
4) Firefox cos without installation Roboform was not detecting firefox to install the roboform plugin. It is using the same old folder of profile as Vista
5) EasyBCD to configure boot options
6) IE pro 2.44

By the way, guys...what short name will u give to Windows 7? Windows Vista is now known just as Vista, but we just can't call Windows 7, 7..

[desiibond]

^^ i would say win7

[rollcage]

Hey this Media Player performance is way better than the earlier 64bit build.
and since the video codec are included does that mean we need not require Klite Mega Codec Pack in windows 7??

Originally Posted by gxsaurav

By the way, guys...what short name will u give to Windows 7? Windows Vista is now known just as Vista, but we just can't call Windows 7, 7..

ha i think thats why they calling it Windows 7 .. so no short form as such.

..

and dude I need 64bit Bluetooth Drivers .. where do I get it.?

[gxsaurav]

Originally Posted by rollcage

Hey this Media Player performance is way better than the earlier 64bit build.
and since the video codec are included does that mean we need not require Klite Mega Codec Pack in windows 7??

All my DivX, Mobile Phone's videos were playing fine but I just installed Vista codac pack in Compatibility mode & now decoding using FFDShow. You don't need it, so don't install it as long as u don't

and dude I need 64bit Bluetooth Drivers .. where do I get it.?

Either try Windows update or install BlueSoleil 5 in Vista Compatibility Mode.

have you guys noticed that Full screen Windows now have aero enabled.

IE 8's tabs are shown individually in superbar, but firefox's does not. It needs an API support in firefox to do so, waiting for an update.