suggest gaming rig for 30-35k urgently plz!!

[mandar5]

@hell_storm can u tell price difference between two RAM modules of 1300 and 1600?Why u prefer gskill over corsair?? can i post an offtopic question??Recently i was in market for home theatre system for our led tv..i came across some models saying upscaling upto full hd!Plz tell me what does it mean???Thanksss....

[hell_storm2006]

I guess this link would answer you question. Remember after God there's Google! Both start with a 'G'!

http://hd1080i.blogspot.com/2006/12/...rom-lower.html

GSkills are better overclockers although it depends on the type model of RAM. Cheaper and have kits with better timings! for Corsair you have to get those special Dominator and all to really see performance! GSkills normally use Samsung IC's. Corsair use Micron IC's. Corsair XMS2 Twin 1600MHz were the first to use Samsung IC's!
But the thing is with RAM's the difference is not very noticable. So it comes down to the other aspects!

[asigh]

I guess with RAM..

Have enough, and have it quick enough.

If one has enough money to spare, then they can go for the quickest and fastest ram. Else work their way down, to mid - level, or then value RAM.

Also if someone is getting non-value RAM, then remember, you get it to run at the EPP ratings is not that easy. The system needs to be overclocked. FSB ratios and multipliers need to be tweaked, to get it at EPP. Else it will run at JEDEC.

But has H.S.2006 mentioned, the difference is not really noticable --- probably a few blinks of the eyelid...!

Prices:
Price (cheapest and for G-Skill DDR-3 2 x 2GB):

G-Skill F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ 4GB @ 1333 Mhz @ 9-9-9-24 : RS.6212

G-Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL 4GB @ 1600 Mhz @ 9-9-9-24 : RS. 6747

First get enough of it..and then see if you can get it quick enough.

[mandar5]

plz suggest 5k graphics card..does ddr2 and ddr3 ram graphics card make huge difference?

[Cilus]

plz suggest 5k graphics card

go for the XFX 9600GSO 768MB DDR2 @ 4.2k. Although this card is equipped with DDR2 memory, rather than GDDR3 memory, it performs better than the other 9600 cards. Because this is a special edition card equipped with 96 stream processors compared to the 64/48 stream processors of the other 9600 cards. It has been selected the Best buy low end card in the last digit card review.
For AMD go for Palit HD4670 512MB GDDR3 SUPER @ 4.5k. in directX 10.1 games it has slight benifit over the other cards.

does ddr2 and ddr3 ram graphics card make huge difference?

If you are having the same GPU vertion, then there may be a noticable performance gap, if you are using a slower memory. Graphics cards are normally equipped with GDDR memory, they are different than ordinary DDR memory. For example GDDR3 (graphics DDR)memory is not same as high speen DDR3 memory. GDDR3 is based on DDR2 memory architecture, but having significant less latency (timespan between a request and completion of it), low power and heat dispersal and high speed than that of ordinary DDR2 memory.
GDDR memory is costly than the normal memory. Currently some cheaper cards are made to use normal DDR (2 or 3) memory rather than GDDR2 or GDDR3 memory. They will have less performance.
It may looks like that I'm contradicting my suggestion of 9600 GSo DDR2, but remember, memory is not only the thing. count of stream processors inside a GPU is a bigger factor.

[mandar5]

thanks cilus once again!one last question-how many years warranty does gskill offer?

[hell_storm2006]

I think they have 5 years warranty. Which is ample time! No one needs more than that. Look at it this way, when the 5 years are up you would not probably have the same PC, would you?

Around 5k i would think 9600GT is a better option!

[zbuu]

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...=expert&pid=10

the q9650 beats the i5 in many games here(@higher resolutions whr da gpu play an imp role). if ur into gaming invest more in ur gpu rather than ur cpu.

[hell_storm2006]

Originally Posted by zbuu

the q9650 beats the i5 in many games here

With the obvious fact that LGA775 is almost becoming extinct!

[asigh]

^^
If someone can squeeze the most out of their LGA775 (going for CPU upgrade), then the quads are the way to go. They will continue to run games (with a good GPU), for next 2 years at least.

If new system, then choose Phenom 2, i5, i7. Depends how much one wants to spend.

Do not want to comment on speed of the above configurations. Gets too messy.

[Krow]

For a new rig, LGA775 is a NO. Period.

[asigh]

Originally Posted by Krow

For a new rig, LGA775 is a NO. Period.

My usual job to play the devil:
What if someone wants a cheap Intel Rig. We forgot that the i5 motherboards are still expensive, and the i5 processor is still in the >10K range.

LGA775 still offers a whole plethora of cheap motherboards and cheap Pentium D and C2Ds...................!

Let us not KILL this platform so easily, hell --- Intel has not. i5 and P55 is not the answer to a mid/low budget Intel platform, no ways it is.

For this post we recommended i5 and greater than this, cause Arnab's budget was such. Let us not 'shove' new/expensive technology down information seekers throat.

PERIOD.

[Krow]

But then what's the point of a cheap Intel rig? AMD is far better at all budgets below i5 and also is cheaper and upgradeable, unlike the Intel counterpart. Well, I am for i5/AMD for future proofing of some sorts.

[asigh]

^^
That is why I underlined Intel Rig, in my post above yours.

There are people out there..who are brand specific. That is what I meant. How will we cater them then.

Will be back..got to go eat dinner. Damn..!

[zbuu]

Originally Posted by hell_storm2006

With the obvious fact that LGA775 is almost becoming extinct!

Intel has no plans to stop c2d/c2q production for now.

[mandar5]

guys i need i5 for 2 reasons-1.futureproofing 2. show off

[hell_storm2006]

Well in a few months they would start phasing out the LGA775. Of course, its a gradual process. I think they were just waiting for the Core i5 to hit the market. When it catches on LGA775 will surely see the end of its life!

[Krow]

Gigabyte P55M-UD2 is for around 6.7k and a great choice.

[asigh]

Originally Posted by mandar5

guys i need i5 for 2 reasons-1.futureproofing 2. show off

Nothing is future proof. The day you walk out of a computer hardware shop (with stuff in your hands), new stuff would be coming out. But yes for new rig, if you can afford i5+P55 is great.

Originally Posted by hell_storm2006

Well in a few months they would start phasing out the LGA775. Of course, its a gradual process. I think they were just waiting for the Core i5 to hit the market. When it catches on LGA775 will surely see the end of its life!

Ya, they are milking the last from the product. When the hell will Q9550 become cheap. Hope it does not run out, then it will be whoooooooooping expensive, what ever is left in the retail supply chain.

Originally Posted by Krow

Gigabyte P55M-UD2 is for around 6.7k and a great choice.

+1. Great choice.

[mandar5]

@asigh i can afford i5+p55.i know its not a future proof choice but i think it has edge over quads atleast from futureproof point of view!

[asigh]

^^
I know you can buddy. Was just putting my point across for debates sake, and to make the knowledge seekers, full aware. Of what is available. If you have narrowed on i5+P55...go for it man. It great..!

[Krow]

^+1. i5 is i5.

[hell_storm2006]

Posted the same question in the Intel discussion forum and some guy said the top line would go first, but the Celeron's would stay on for a while.

Unfortunately your Q9550 falls in the top line of LGA775!!!

[Krow]

^Post the link please for the benefit of all out here.

[asigh]

Originally Posted by hell_storm2006

Posted the same question in the Intel discussion forum and some guy said the top line would go first, but the Celeron's would stay on for a while.

Unfortunately your Q9550 falls in the top line of LGA775!!!

Oh hell....! Do not tell me that. Sh**, by when will this start.

Originally Posted by Krow

^Post the link please for the benefit of all out here.

Please....

[hell_storm2006]

Originally Posted by asigh

Oh hell....! Do not tell me that. Sh**, by when will this start.

Well Intel.com has its own discussion board. So out of intrigue i posted the same question there. One of the guys replied what i told you. If you look at it if i5 is around Q9550 then what's the point of manufacturing Q9550, especially when there is no sign of price drop! Celeron's would stay on as the real dirt cheap option for a while. A few E Series processors are already gone like E6400!

[asigh]

^^ Groan....
Oh hell...! Sounds logical, why cannibalize one series to another.

[hell_storm2006]

Expecting a mail from them. Mailed Intel also. Don't think they would be willing to answer such a sensitive question though. Lets see!

[mandar5]

GUYS i am sorry too busy this week due to exams . will get my pc next week only.pls suggest 1tb hdd. which one to go for wd or seagate?

[vickybat]

@mandar5

you cant go wrong with either wd or seagate but the latter provides 5years warranty.

for storage look for wd green or seagate baracudda 7200 series.

for superior performance go for wd black but expect to pay a premium of 3k.
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@mandar5

you cant go wrong with either wd or seagate but the latter provides 5years warranty.

for storage look for wd green or seagate baracudda 7200 series.

for superior performance go for wd black but expect to pay a premium of 3k.