Review of iPhone 3G

[prathamtawde]

Dear Friends,
I asked one of my friends about iPhone 3G, in return he replied me following things. I really don't know whether these feature are really not in India or not in iPhone..

Please read the reply and suggest..

Friends .....those of you in India planning for iPhone... THINK TWICE BEFORE MAKING A DECISION... The short comings of iPhone are endless...

• No video calling,
• no AD2P on the Bluetooth,
• CAN'T share ANY (mp3, images,videos....) files via bluetooth,

• can't use as a wireless modem, (you pay ridiculous data charges to activate internet on your phone , but cannot connect it to your PC and browse when you are at home)
• no copy and paste,(cannot copy a part of a.... say.... email & send it....have to type it out yourself)
• NO 3.2 or 5 megapixel camera ,(the 2MP camera it carries is worst camera i've ever seen..... photos look like they have come out of a VGA camera)
• no video recording with camera,
• no front camera,
• no flash.
• no JAVA support
• No physical keyboard (BELIEVE me! this alone is a dealbreaker...touch keyboard as good as it looks...once you use it then only you come to know about the importance of having a hard keypad)
• No 3G network yet in India ..so why pay for expensive 3G phone if you cant use its 3G services ... so, for India , iPhone 2.0 is no better than its first version
• No removable battery. (You cannot change battery. Have to send it to apple outlet.. Come on now!!!!...This is not an iPod . Its a bloody phone. You cannot live without phone for 2-3 days)
• No haptic feedback and
• cannot Forward MMS,
• can't use as external storage device (16 GB of utter waste..next time you go to your friend's house & find some interesting songs, movies , etc...sorry you cannot connect your '16 GB' phone and share it!!!! Apple apparently has a solution.. " BUY MUSIC & MOVIES FROM iTUNES STORE "..... Give me a break will you APPLE!!!)
• no FM radio,
• can't use your mp3 files as ringtones,(This is heights man!!!)
• cannot insert any other SIM card
• completely tied to iTunes... Connect to your friend's iTunes & you risk erasing everything on your phone.

list goes on & on & on….

[D@rekills4]

I thought that iPhone was a great phone
But when I went to buy it I hated it the most!!!!!

[desiibond]

But look at the positives


1) It's from Apple
2) It's from Apple
3) It's from Apple
4) It's from Apple
5) It's from Apple

[m-jeri]

this is a forward mail..been circulating for about 3 months

[dd_wingrider]

^^^^ true, i got one some time back in mail

[prathamtawde]

Originally Posted by desiibond

But look at the positives


1) It's from Apple
2) It's from Apple
3) It's from Apple
4) It's from Apple
5) It's from Apple

so wat if it is "Apple".
I'm not brand hungry..
I think feature counts first rather than Brand.

Originally Posted by dd_wingrider

^^^^ true, i got one some time back in mail

Originally Posted by madjeri

this is a forward mail..been circulating for about 3 months

May be he has forwarded the same rotating mail...but are these things true..
Boss!! Try to see the moon don't remove fault from the finger which is trying to show you the moon.

[Pathik]

For basic users, obviously all are true.

[m-jeri]

@pratham....

i said..its a forward... NOT by ur friend...

all these are true

[Pat]

Replies Inline..Hope it helps you..

• No video calling, TRUE
  
• no AD2P on the Bluetooth, TRUE..but if you need it, you can buy a 3rd party accessory which allows you to use ur iphone for A2DP.
  
• CAN'T share ANY (mp3, images,videos....) files via bluetooth,TRUE

• can't use as a wireless modem, (you pay ridiculous data charges to activate internet on your phone , but cannot connect it to your PC and browse when you are at home) NOT TRUE..You can use a tethering app though it would require you to jailbreak your phone.
  
• no copy and paste,(cannot copy a part of a.... say.... email & send it....have to type it out yourself) TRUE..But it is expected that apple will implement this feature soon.
  
• NO 3.2 or 5 megapixel camera ,(the 2MP camera it carries is worst camera i've ever seen..... photos look like they have come out of a VGA camera) TRUE AND FALSE both..Its only 2 MP alright, but they are not as bad as this person wants you to think.
  
• no video recording with camera, Can be done using free 3rd party apps.
  
• no front camera, TRUE
  
• no flash. TRUE (but ask yourself why do you need it on a phone except for youtube, which is available on iPhone anyways)
  
• no JAVA support There is a project that gets some basic support for java. Dont know much about it.
  
• No physical keyboard (BELIEVE me! this alone is a dealbreaker...touch keyboard as good as it looks...once you use it then only you come to know about the importance of having a hard keypad) I know people who have typed huge articles on their iphone. Its not as good as a physical keyboard but it is far from a deal-breaker
  
• No 3G network yet in India ..so why pay for expensive 3G phone if you cant use its 3G services ... so, for India , iPhone 2.0 is no better than its first version 3G will be available in 6-8 months from now. The new iPhone also features GPS FYI.
  
• No removable battery. (You cannot change battery. Have to send it to apple outlet.. Come on now!!!!...This is not an iPod . Its a bloody phone. You cannot live without phone for 2-3 days) Not a big deal. You can get it done from a local mobile-repair shop if you are already past your warranty time. And iPhone 3G has a removable battery unlike the old iPhone in which it was soldered.
  
• No haptic feedback and TRUE
  
• cannot Forward MMS, You can, using 3rd party apps
  
• can't use as external storage device (16 GB of utter waste..next time you go to your friend's house & find some interesting songs, movies , etc...sorry you cannot connect your '16 GB' phone and share it!!!! Apple apparently has a solution.. " BUY MUSIC & MOVIES FROM iTUNES STORE "..... Give me a break will you APPLE!!!) You can, using 3rd party apps
• no FM radio, TRUE
  
• can't use your mp3 files as ringtones,(This is heights man!!!) INCORRECT
  
• cannot insert any other SIM card YOU CAN, AS LONG AS IT IS OF THE SAME NETWORK
  
• completely tied to iTunes... Connect to your friend's iTunes & you risk erasing everything on your phone. Again, you can use other better tools to sync your data
  

Its your decision if you want a great phone with some basic features missing (most of which can be addressed by using 3rd party apps) or a so-so phone cramped with unusable or sub-par features

[Ecko]

No physical keyboard (BELIEVE me! this alone is a dealbreaker...touch keyboard as good as it looks...once you use it then only you come to know about the importance of having a hard keypad)

Now this one suc*s .........!!!!

[apoorva84]

buy a treo pro..

[gxsaurav]

So we pay 31k first for iPhone then additional money to get basic features, which comes to about 36k for 8 GB iPhone. (After buying all the 3rd party apps & jailbreaking it & violating the warranty)

......or U can buy Nokia N85/N82/N96 for Rs 25k max with 16 GB HD/SDHC card


choice is yours.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

After buying all the 3rd party apps & jailbreaking it & violating the warranty

Yes..keep spreading FUD

[gxsaurav]

^^^ Didn't U say yourself that U need to buy 3rd party applications for MMS, Video recording etc....so where am I wrong?

[krates]

SIDEKICK is better then iphone

[Psychosocial]

I dont need reviews, I knew it sux.

Better upgrade your rig/buy another phone/buy console/PMP/use the money for personal stuff/invest in shares/give to your GF..........anything, but dont spend it on iPhone 3G. It sux.

[desiibond]

for 31k i get

1) W760i
2) PSP
3) HD4850

[Pat]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

^^^ Didn't U say yourself that U need to buy 3rd party applications for MMS, Video recording etc....so where am I wrong?

a: software for video recording and MMS are free
AND
b. Jailbreaking does not necessarily void your warranty.

So confirm the facts before you make such claims.

Originally Posted by desiibond

for 31k i get

1) W760i
2) PSP
3) HD4850

I can get either

16 Nokia 1100s
or
A mid-range laptop
or
2 ipod touches

Great, isnt it ?

[desiibond]

^^^ LOLZ. yeah.

[utsav]

Originally Posted by KPower Mania

I dont need reviews, I knew it sux.

Better upgrade your rig/buy another phone/buy console/PMP/use the money for personal stuff/invest in shares/give to your GF..........anything, but dont spend it on iPhone 3G. It sux.

imagine u gave 31k to ur gf and she bought an iphone for herself using dat

[MetalheadGautham]

Well, if you say you need 3rd party apps for iPhone to have more features, then I think its fair only if you include their cost also in the Phone's price. Then its real cost might become over 35K, not 31K.

But at the end of the day, only one thing matters: features vs money. If you can manage to do more for less cost, you win. Going this way, I think iPhone is not as great as its claimed to be. Its just yet another phone, here to join the countless other phones available in the market in its price range. Having said that, its not really a bad phone, atleast when compared to blackberry.

[Psychosocial]

Originally Posted by utsav

imagine u gave 31k to ur gf and she bought an iphone for herself using dat

Imagine I gave it to her, so its her money. Let her do w/ever she wants .

[Pat]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

If you can manage to do more for less cost, you win.

Unfortunately thats all that matters in India.

[thewisecrab]

This is not a review
Its just a person trying to clear up his misconceptions about the iPhone
Why cant Apple incorporate those features (given by 3rd parties) which are present on other phones in the main build itself?
Thats the million dollar question
Regarding Bluetooth, heres an easy explanation I found on iMav's blog:
http://www.beingmanan.com/wp/2008/07...led-bluetooth/
To be specific, it is illegal to transfer songs via bluetooth without paying for them
Eg. Your friend's friend bought the song which he transmitted via bluetooth to your friend fo free who eventually gave it to you via bluetooth also for free. Thus, in reality, it's a loss for the artist as he would have two sales in place of those transfers . Thus, he gets the money only for one sale, when he actually deserves two more. This is what (I think) Apple is trying to address here

PS. I know what I posted is old news, just thoght it would help the thread starter

Hey, check out this post on Goobi's blog:
http://goobimama.blogspot.com/2008/0...ou-nitwit.html

[goobimama]

^^ Ah! The comments in that post of mine are even more interesting

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by Pat

Unfortunately thats all that matters in India.

My point precicely.

Why else do you think Nokia 3110c and 3500c are two of the MOST popular phones in India ?

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by thewisecrab

This is not a review
Its just a person trying to clear up his misconceptions about the iPhone
Why cant Apple incorporate those features (given by 3rd parties) which are present on other phones in the main build itself?
Thats the million dollar question
Regarding Bluetooth, heres an easy explanation I found on iMav's blog:
http://www.beingmanan.com/wp/2008/07...led-bluetooth/
To be specific, it is illegal to transfer songs via bluetooth without paying for them
Eg. Your friend's friend bought the song which he transmitted via bluetooth to your friend fo free who eventually gave it to you via bluetooth also for free. Thus, in reality, it's a loss for the artist as he would have two sales in place of those transfers . Thus, he gets the money only for one sale, when he actually deserves two more. This is what (I think) Apple is trying to address here

PS. I know what I posted is old news, just thoght it would help the thread starter

Hey, check out this post on Goobi's blog:
http://goobimama.blogspot.com/2008/0...ou-nitwit.html

that's bullshit. That means even giving pc sync is also ilegal.

Eg. Your friend's friend bought the song which he transmitted using PC to your friend for free who eventually gave it to you via PC also for free or you transfer the song to PC using ipod to pc copy tools. Thus, in reality, it's a loss for the artist as he would have two sales in place of those transfers . Thus, he gets the money only for one sale, when he actually deserves two more. This is what (I think) Apple is trying to address here

[thewisecrab]

Originally Posted by goobimama

^^ Ah! The comments in that post of mine are even more interesting

Yeah man. There's serious flaming going on there
@desiibond
Yeah I know its bull$h!t, but thats why Apple's iPhone has crippled bluetooth

[goobimama]

Originally Posted by desiibond

that's bullshit. That means even giving pc sync is also ilegal.

Eg. Your friend's friend bought the song which he transmitted using PC to your friend for free who eventually gave it to you via PC also for free or you transfer the song to PC using ipod to pc copy tools. Thus, in reality, it's a loss for the artist as he would have two sales in place of those transfers . Thus, he gets the money only for one sale, when he actually deserves two more. This is what (I think) Apple is trying to address here

What people out here don't realise, is that Apple runs the biggest online music stores out there. And to do that, they have to get consent, and basically, keep the music companies happy. Now if they allowed people to transfer music oh so freely, what's gonna happen to those record deals?

Now I do agree that Apple should allow *some* transfers like Photos and Contact cards (and gaming), and I'm pretty sure those things are gonna come in the near future.

[aryayush]

Gaming does work over Wi-Fi for games that support it. Apple hasn’t put any restriction on that.