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I do not consider myself a hardcore audiophile, but I am quite crazy when it comes to music (audio in general) - high quality music that is. To enjoy high quality music, you need many things including:

  • Good Audio Production – This is done in the studio, by the recording company
  • Good Audio Representation – This is the format in which we store music we have – digital mostly these days – it could be MP3, AAC, FLAC et al.
  • Good Audio Player – This is very important and it requires separate treatment
  • Good Audio Reproduction – This is where speakers and headphones kick in.

Using a speaker is not always a good option when you are living with family/roomies etc to thoroughly enjoy the music. Ambient noise may interfere in your listening which may ruin the show.

So, headphones or earphones are the best best in these cases. I am crazy about headphones I admit it. So, here is a small review about all the headphones and earphones that I have.

First up: It is many a peoples' favorite, highly recommended across the forum:

Creative EP 630
Everybody buys MP3 players by paying hefty sums of money – iPods, Zens and what not – but do not invest in a good pair of earphones. The bundled earphones that come with most of the players are crap and some are absolutely horrible. I see no point in this as this is like making the entire purchase of the player not worth it. This is true even in the case of the all famous iPod – actually Sony, Creative bundles better earphones with their players.

But, in any case I recommend ditching the bundled earphones and replacing them with decent ones. And, the best replacement considering both quality and value for money is you guessed it – the EP 630. It costs about 750 bucks – you can buy it online at several sites (primeabgb, itdepot) – avoid eBay if you ask me – lots of fakes. Creative has an official store in rediff shopping – pretty safe IMHO – I bought it from there – at a slightly higher price than other sites (Rs. 990 when last checked).

These are in-ear earphones which goes in your ear canal and stays there forming a vacuum. This provides great isolation from outside noise. The noise isolation is really good – even in a noisy train or a crowded bus stand. Three sizes of ear buds are bundled to fit different ear sizes.

The music performance is gorgeous – perfect for an MP3 player. The bass performance is impressive, the mids are pretty good and I personally feel they do a bit too much on the higher end of the spectrum – the treble – too sharp for my liking. The frequency response of these phones are from 6Hz to 23Khz which is a wider range than many other earphones – most of them doing 20Hz to 20Khz. The drivers do their job pretty well.

I have paired these earphones with my Sony Walkman MP3 player – a match made in heaven, my PSP and my laptop. It works well on all three. The cable is long enough (1.2m) for almost all uses.

If you have Sony Ericsson Walkman phones, you must be bragging about the headphones that come with it – HPM 70 – but believe me – once you hear the EP 630, you'll start hating the HPM 70. HPM 70 is all Bass and nothing else, while the EP 630 spans its performance across the spectrum.

When I initially bought these, I was just not able to play these for long. I have sensitive ears and these produced a lot of high frequency sounds that my ears picked up. And... to be frank they were giving me a headache. I almost gave up on these. But, after some 50+ hours of use, the phones started to get better and better with each listening. The high frequency sounds – must be because of the freshness – settled down and now I can use them without any problems.

Verdict:
Best cheap entry level in-ear noise isolation earphones – which work fine as replacements for bundled earphones.






Onto the next one. So, if the EP 630 performs well, then why do we need another earphone/headphone? Many many reasons – one of the major reasons is 'Room'. I don't know how exactly to define 'Room' – you just have to know it. When listening to music, room determines how well separated and distinct the different instruments are – you feel as if the sound is coming from a distance – I don't know how to define it perfectly.

I love my music with lots of room and the EP 630 does not have this. Don't blame the EP 630 – how much room can a closed in ear earphone provide?? It does what it is supposed to do.


Sennheiser PX-100
Senns are considered to be the best among headphone manufacturers – producing some of the best audiophile grade headphones out there. And.. believe me – it is no hype like some other phones (*cough*Bose*cough*).


The PX-100 is a open design supra-aural headphone (not earphone) which look quite simple and humble when you see it. But, inside lies a performance beast. This is my favorite among my headphone collection.

Once you hear the EP 630 – you think music is great and how can it get better? Hear the PX 100 and you'll start to know how better music can get. As these are open cans, they have much more room to play the music and they do a good job here. These are not audiophile grade headphones – not by a long shot – but could be termed as a stepping stone into the audiophile world.

The first thing you'll notice about these phones when you wear them is that they are very light. Fire them up in your player and then, the thing that will impress you is the Bass. They can handle a large amount of Bass smoothly and this is probably I love these phones. They have an awesome performance across the spectrum – though a little muddy on the highs for me – but most people wouldn't mind it.

It costs Rs. 2690 and is worth every single rupee you pay. The music quality is the best you can get at this price point. It does a good job at movies too. As the bass is good, action movies are really enjoyable. But, the cable length is not really good for movie viewing – but perfect for listening music on your MP3 player.

I have let my friends use these phones – and the first time that they hear it – it always manages to put a wide grin on their face. Most of them are just blown away. Somehow, these are not entirely comfortable for using for a long time – for my ears. Remember - this could be just for my ears – they start paining after long listening – maybe the headphones are putting a tad bit too much pressure on the ears. I am pretty sure that this is a problem with my ears though. Please remember – these are open headphones and so, they leak sound in and out.

You can buy them from a Sennheiser dealer. Go to http://www.sennheiser.com/india/icm_...e_dealersearch to fin the dealer in your city. You can also buy online at theitdepot.com

Rs. 2690 may seem too high for many people for headphones – but consider it as an investment – for enjoying music the way it is meant to be enjoyed.

These headphones are foldable and can be folded and put inside a case which comes bundled. It is really compact when it is bundled – looks like a sun glass case – perfect for traveling.

Verdict:
My Favorite – absolutely gorgeous sound across the spectrum – especially the bass – good room (not the best). Just Awesome!




Onto the next one:
I said the PX 100 performs very well in movies – but I really do not prefer them for watching movies because of several reasons:
  1. Not comfortable enough for me.
  2. Room is not good enough for movies – movies require a better, wider room to be thoroughly enjoyable.
  3. Cable length is not really good to lay back on your bed with a cushion and watch the movie on your PC/TV.

This is where my next headphone comes in.

Philips SHP8900
This is my personal home theater – and I just love it! Well, these are open circum-aural headphones, that is, they cover your ears completely. On first look these look huge and bulky. But once you wear them, you'll know that these are really comfortable. The cushions are well placed and they do not press too much against your head or anything – the comfort is very pleasing. They are a bit heavy though and so, fatigue can kick in when used for very long viewing sessions.

Oh, did I say 'viewing' and not listening? Yes, that is because I use these extensively for watching movies on my PC. They are comfortable, have good room for movies and have a 4 meter cable length (all 3 points solved!). Perfect for watching TV or movies on your PC.

Having said that, it is not that these are bad for music – they perform well in that department too. The room factor kicks in when you play music on these and is an absolute treat.

The Bass again is probably the best factor in these headphones – and that makes it even better for movies. Action movies are a treat to watch with these on.

All headphones have this property – they just get better and better the more you listen. It takes somewhere around 50+ hours of listening before a headphone can perform at its best. And, the SHP 8900 is no different. They are so much better sounding now – than how they sounded when I first used them.

Many of the movies that I have are AC3, DTS surround sound encoded movies. With the proper 'Dolby Headphone' codec, the SHP 8900 does a marvelous job at surround sound also – the room factor comes into play here too.

These are priced at Rs. 3600 odd and is the most expensive of my headphone collection. They are widely available in Planet M and Music World showrooms. So, getting them won't be a tough job – I think theitdepot.com also has these.

Verdict:
Awesome for lying on your bed and watching TV or watching movies on PC. Really comfortable too. Well spent Rs. 3600 – probably the best spent among my headphones – because I am more of a movie buff than a music buff



Others:
Others include HPM 70, Philips Bass Vent earphones, Sennheiser HD 201 (closed), and some more.
Don't fall for the Sennheiser brand always – all Senns are not good. The HD 201 is closed, so that it does not leak sound in/out. But, that is almost it. Nothing much to brag about – sounds muddy once you have heard better headphones. Costs Rs. 1450 – good for giving away as a present though.



So, that's all folks
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Excellent review.. Covers quite a few details. Gives me final push to go for ep630 and not Senn. HD 201
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Great Review. Just a quick tip. if the Senns are too tight for you, stretch them out by just stretching them over a pile of books for a few hours. That should help.
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lol does not work. I have a pair of RP-21 and I did same thing for couple of days but it still hurts
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Nice review. I was considering the EP630s myself, but then I stumbled upon the Etymotic ER-6i's. My cousin has them and he says he has since stopped listening to music on his expensive Klipsch 5.1 audio system.
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^ m sure he'd not have heard these -
http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Profes...7650410&sr=1-1


nice review man.just got EP630s
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There is no one to beat Shure when it comes to in ear earphones, they just dominate this area. They manufacture ONLY in-ear earphones btw.

Check these out : http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-manufacturer/shure/

I will get one of these when I have enough money:
http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-ap...ser-hd-650.php
They cost 22K+ now
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hmm...shures are great but aint reference earphones .they make good mics though
u gotta hear the IE 40
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Great review.Thanks
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Even I use Philips SHP8900 headphones & am quite satisfied by it.
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I hate these bulky headphones that make you look like some retarded airline ground crew. Nice review though. I prefer my EP 630 for now.
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Yup. Would'nt be caught dead wearing one of those pilot headphones. Anyway, I've settled on getting these Future Sonics FS1 with the iPhone connector.
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Each kind of earphones/headphones have their own forte and their own uses.

Agreed, the in-ear earphones are the best ones for use when traveling or when at work. The other mid-size headphones like PX 100 are 1 step further, they can be used while traveling - depends upon your comfort level. But, when you are at home, there is no point in having portability as a factor. This is where circumaural headphones come into picture.

When coming to audio quality, staging and exact music reproduction, in-ear earphones and other mid-size headphones just don't do the job. Have you wondered why most of the audiophile quality headphones are circum-aural? Because, they provide superior sound quality and staging than other kinds of phones.

You may look like a weirdo wearing these phones, but I don't care about that when I am at home. In fact, I won't care about it even if I am at work or in public. Finally, headphones are for you to hear and not your neighbor or other people around you.

The point is to choose earphones/headphones according to the application/use.
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when i am at home i connect my Sony deck speaker
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5.1 @ home rocks! I can't imagine watching a movie on a large screen with headphones. (Movies on iPhone ftw though!)
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Philips SHP8900 headphones ........ just rock ........
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Superb review.

My favourite is ER-4P. http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-ER-4P...ref=pd_sim_e_2

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The good: State-of-the-art in-ear headphones; extremely effective noise isolation; reference-quality sound; gold-plated miniplug; storage pouch.

The bad: Extremely expensive.

The bottom line: Etymotic's ER-4P MicroPro earbuds cost a king's ransom but offer royal sound quality.
My pick would be Etymotic ER-4P.

http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/e...-30690254.html

The good: State-of-the-art in-ear headphones; extremely effective noise isolation; reference-quality sound; gold-plated miniplug; storage pouch.

The bad: Extremely expensive.

The bottom line: Etymotic's ER-4P MicroPro earbuds cost a king's ransom but offer royal sound quality.
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really nice review, currently using my EP 630 for my PSP Slim and yes, it does sound crisp...

:edit: i really do not mind goin in for a small and trendy earphone or a bulky head phone, till the quality of music is gr8 and they perform as they (the manufacturers) write in the reviews..
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really nice thread for all new comers (incl. me)...

keep it up !! sree..
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btw, guys i need a good set of phones (be it ear or head ones) for movie watching on my 19" LCD (PC) so plz tell me wich one to go for... !! i hv a budget of Rs.2500/- and i live in mumbai.. )



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^ Sony MDR or Philips
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Yup. Would'nt be caught dead wearing one of those pilot headphones. Anyway, I've settled on getting these Future Sonics FS1 with the iPhone connector.
Okay bhai. Someone help me. I'm definitely gonna get these earphones, but everyone I tell this to has told me I'm the biggest idiot in the world (which I may be, but I don't want it to be for this). They say that I should go for the Creative EP630 which I don't think are anything great. I think I've got a pretty good budget (point to note: The FS1 will cost me 7k including shipping) so people chime in please.
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^ EP630 are good budget headphgones
check specs of both
sensitivity , impedence and freq response of FS1 >>>>>>>> EP630

i.e. if u can spend 7k,FS1 is the choice
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@ goobi

well u having abudget of 7K ??wow man, im happy for ur budget u will get a bomb (not actually) but a gr8 headphone for that.

do not go in for the CREATIVE's EP 630 (since u hv tat good a budget ) also, if u plan to watch movies from ur PC, plz do not go in for EP...

I jus use it for my PSP gaming
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This will be exclusively for iPhone. Movies on computer? I'm not comfortable watching a movie sitting so close to the screen. I mean watching movies on iPhone is fun, but can't do the same thing with a big screen.
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very informative thread...
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This will be exclusively for iPhone. Movies on computer? I'm not comfortable watching a movie sitting so close to the screen. I mean watching movies on iPhone is fun, but can't do the same thing with a big screen.

well then i think EP 630 are a good choice..
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good review. but not really useful for the average guy who would not want to spend that kind of money for earphones or headphones. the average guy doesnt go around searching for senn's, he would just go to the nearest planet M or e zone and buy one from there. am one of those. the stuff available in those kinda stores are cheap and local. you get philips rs 50 earphones or the colored ear plugs. they are all less than 500. if anyone could say which one of those are good that would really be helpful..
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well, if thats ur budget then please add Rs.150 more (to ur Rs.500 budget) and for Rs650/- bucks u can really get a gr8 sounding and low budget CREATIVE's EP 630.. really u'll love it buddy.. giv it a try

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good review. but not really useful for the average guy who would not want to spend that kind of money for earphones or headphones. the average guy doesnt go around searching for senn's, he would just go to the nearest planet M or e zone and buy one from there. am one of those. the stuff available in those kinda stores are cheap and local. you get philips rs 50 earphones or the colored ear plugs. they are all less than 500. if anyone could say which one of those are good that would really be helpful..
Most of the ear/headphones under Rs500 sounds similar so no need for a review
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good review. but not really useful for the average guy who would not want to spend that kind of money for earphones or headphones. the average guy doesnt go around searching for senn's, he would just go to the nearest planet M or e zone and buy one from there. am one of those. the stuff available in those kinda stores are cheap and local. you get philips rs 50 earphones or the colored ear plugs. they are all less than 500. if anyone could say which one of those are good that would really be helpful..
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