@Digital dude, that was hilarious, awesome!
But still, I am continuing with what I have to say, one last time
@teknoPhobia
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Originally Posted by teknoPhobia
p.s. talking about internet addiction, let's see: My joining this forum: Sep 2004, No. of posts=403, your joining: May 2004, No. of Posts=2062
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ha ha ha...
good one! the topic is not only about game addiction, its about internet addiction and declaring as "mentally ill".
@Slugger
1) You got me there with the heroin. I am sorry for my ignorance. I should have mentioned weed and Marijuana. Sorry again!! But even then, the last time I checked Marijuana and weed aren't exactly noble pills.
What do you have to say against legality in Amsterdam? (in Europe, pardon me for your ignorance for mistaking it to be the US). I myself am in Europe, so may be I failed to write hte Geography which apparently resulted in one of your snobbish and rash conclusions.
2) I am not a gamer. I have not gamed anything other than online chess for the last 7 years or so... and I am a 1700+ player, I play at a club here and as I said earlier, I am so into chess that time is not a problem for me. You can call it addiction or compulsive disorder or obsession or impulsive disorder.
3) Excessive gaming, and for that matter excessive of anything is wrong. I do not deny the fact. In fact, the topic is not about gaming in particular, its about "internet addiction" and declaring them as "mentally ill". and its the second part that bothers me.
4) The war on terror's estimate if you dint know about (if you again watched Colbert's report, daily show or real time with bill maher (i am personally a fan of bill maher) ) or
this link you would get it clarified. So, I wasn't wrong there and flouting back at you
It is 3 trillion $ and counting
5) The government is not always right with every policy, look at pakistan's Musharaff declaring emergency when he was about to be imprisoned. Its power. This war on terror when every possible terrorist would be in no way in Iraq and all the means in Afghanistan and Pakistan... is this really necessary?
6) If you claim me to be liberal, then from what you seem to say about going with the system always (which means that you are against protest for anything and everything) you seem to be favoring more of a dictatorship (only that there are more than 1 ppl making decisions) communism?!!
7) Putting people behind bars for committing crimes has certainly "seemed" to work while the actual crime rate is increasing. Its at least now time to rethink and reevaluate the issues (even by your double standards). But no!! capital punishments are increasing instead
and you still say the system works and that it will change slowly if it has to.
8) I am not denying the fact that it (gaming or any other similar) may be harmful if you get too much into it. Even smoking and drinking (which are legal again... for which I would like to hear your views for I dint seem to gather any in your previous post where you had spent enough time in mocking me
) but people are not declared "mentally ill" because they have an addiction habit (in case of smoking or drinking). I would also like you to see
this and I believe it to be more of an impulsive disorder or whatever it is.. Why would you call them "mentally ill" and "institutionalize" them for that?? Offer them therapy sessions, treat them with respect, he is a victim, boost him morally, by institutionalizing him, you are stamping him with a permanent record of mental illness and nobody would even hear to him anymore or say finding a job after that and stuffs... I hope you get what I am trying to say.
That is my only argument and not against gaming. Excessive of anything is harmful to oneself. We all agree that I guess. That is why I started my first reply to you saying "everybody is obsessed with something or other, their desires, fantasies..." you can't go around calling them "mentally ill". There will be a time where people start calling even the people who work out on gyms "mentally ill"!! you wouldn't even know how it hit!! and for that matter everything.
But personally, I find going to a gym and paying money to strain yourself by pulling those hefty weights is also one of the stupidest things a person can do.. and still claim its really refreshing and stuffs or paying to go and run on treadmills. Also, I remember seeing ina documentary that, increasing the biceps will actually reduce the amount of force that you land on, say, your opponent which is not a constructive way or in other words not getting stronger... and that triceps is what you will have to develop for it delivers the maximum force (i think the reason is something like triceps are extending muscles and biceps are contracting muscles) but most people don't know about this and develop their biceps by pulling weights, God know how heavy they are... and then claiming they are stronger!!
Yoga, pilates, walking, pull ups, push ups and exercises for abdomen and other exercises are more than enough and in fact perfect enough to keep you fit. But then, that's me and you will start by saying, "you are the most ignorant person on earth and I am laughing around with a bunch of my friends here because I don't have the balls enough to write a reply myself and we all club together to mock you and not reply to the actual argument you (me) are against"
EDIT: Sorry, last but not least,
read this link. What I am suggesting is that research has to take place to reveal the actual strategies and the evil plans of keeping the players hooked by exploiting the innate dumbness of human brain. So that, you can stop this "permanently". That is what is the SOLUTION. I hope you get what I am arguing about, as I am not going to respond in this regard anymore, for it has become a deadlock otherwise. While "treating" the victims (not institutionalizing), seek the original source of the problem (there were video games before, there are televisions, and many people who play say solitaire or minesweeper are not this addicted which might have some perspective or a benefit of doubt to look into??) and put an end to it. And for the same matter, eliminating crimes... Putting them behind bars is the only solution we have found so far. But, there are more and more people going into jails every year with the crime rate increasing... Just extrapolate the results and see where it would go. Thank you for your arguments again, but what I am arguing is not against the fact that excessive gaming is very good, but declaring them "mentally ill" and blaming them alone is not true or right and certainly will not put an end to this issue (or any issue which is approached in this manner).
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