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Old 25-02-2008, 11:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The telecom company that carries most of Pakistan’s traffic, PCCW, has found it necessary to shut Pakistan off from the Internet while they filter out the malicious routes that a Pakistani ISP, PieNet, announced earlier today. Evidently PieNet took this step to enforce a decree from the Pakistani government that ISP’s must block access to YouTube because it was a source of blasphemous content.
I cannot let the irony pass with out commenting. A religious state, Pakistan, identifies a content provider, YouTube, as the source of blasphemous, seditious content and orders, King Canute style, that the Internet tides be stopped. A zealous ISP ignorantly decides the best way to comply with the decree is to re-route all of YouTube’s IP addresses to whatever site they thought was more appropriate. The first repercussion was that YouTube disappeared from the Internet for almost an hour. I suspect the second repercussion was that Pakistan’s Internet access crawled to a halt as all of a sudden they were handling IP requests for one of the busiest sites in the world. As of this writing YouTube has announced more granular routes so that at least in the US they supercede the routes announced by PieNet. The rest of the world is still struggling. So, while working on a fix that will filter out the spurious route announcements, PCCW has found it necessary to shut down Pakistan’s Internet access. The leadership of Pakistan just created a massive Denial of Service on their own country.
I could say: “be careful what you wish for” to those elements that object to free and open access to information and expression of ideas. But to put it in terms they might understand better: Do not anger the Internet gods or you will suffer their wrath!



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Old 25-02-2008, 11:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Lolz.
And we call these guys our arch-enemies?
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he he, finally peace of mind for pakistanies
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Just shows how DAFT they can be.
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Very very nice...
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i simply cant understand ....

wht happenened actually ?? paki wanted to filter utube ??? then wht ?? sorry .. cant understand that article..
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Must have routed it to Yahoo or something. They are the busiest sites in the world. But I still do not understand, how could it have taken down entire connectivity.

It looks like they took the entore routing of Youtube upon themselves or atleast a major part of it. Its all a big mess.
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hehe. never play with youtube
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i simply cant understand ....

wht happenened actually ?? paki wanted to filter utube ??? then wht ?? sorry .. cant understand that article..
Pakistan wanted to show a "Not Available" or "Blocked" page whenever someone tried to access YouTube from Pakistan. For this, they wanted to re-route all traffic going to YouTube so that it may reach their own "Not Available" page. All this re-routing is done by inserting/deleting/modifying rules in a routing table. The only mistake they did was that they placed their rules over and above YouTube's own GLOBAL rules! Hence they entire global traffic of YouTube was diverted to pakistan's "Not Available" page
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Pakistan wanted to show a "Not Available" or "Blocked" page whenever someone tried to access YouTube from Pakistan. For this, they wanted to re-route all traffic going to YouTube so that it may reach their own "Not Available" page. All this re-routing is done by inserting/deleting/modifying rules in a routing table. The only mistake they did was that they placed their rules over and above YouTube's own GLOBAL rules! Hence they entire global traffic of YouTube was diverted to pakistan's "Not Available" page


how can they redirect the whole world`s youtube request from pakistan..???

i dont get it ???
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^^ Cause they corrupted the Internet's routing table! All high priority rules are propagated to all the other routers, and they adjust their routing tables accordingly..
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they corrupted internets routing ... sorry .. but how could they .. if they can .. cant a hackers can ???

sorry again but how can they???

does all internet request flow thru pakistan ??? i dont think so... if i am correct...
sorry for being so innocent.. i dont get it... may be some wiki reference may help..
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^^ A hacker does not own an international gateway.. Pakistan does.
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cant they use a proxy
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What good would a proxy do.. If youtube's IP address space is owned by pakistani servers?
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so utube rules the net NOW .....
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What good would a proxy do.. If youtube's IP address space is owned by pakistani servers?
lol there dead
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So isnt there any regulation or method to boycott those ill-functioning gatways . I am supposing every country has a Gateway to connect to internet like we have VSNL.
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^^ ofcourse there are! That's why pakistan was cut off from the internet temporarily! It was actually a mistake on pakistan's part.. It was not intentional.
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they corrupted internets routing ... sorry .. but how could they .. if they can .. cant a hackers can ???

sorry again but how can they???

does all internet request flow thru pakistan ??? i dont think so... if i am correct...
sorry for being so innocent.. i dont get it... may be some wiki reference may help..
They modified their routing tables to divert traffic to youtube. The modified tables got propagated to all other international routers and they modified their own tables accordingly. This happens will all high priority routers and DNS servers. These records get updated throughout the Internet. Hence the whole global traffic to youtube was divereted.
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If you're an ISP, you are capable of doing that.
What they did was accidental and unintentional, and they rectified it as soon as they realized it.
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I thought ICANN is there to make sure no one actually do this !!!! As to protect and make sure IP (Numbers) are interlinked properlly !!!

Still didnt get it, Pakisthan would getway with this violation of ICANN own Rules ??

its simple fact on a network, 2 computers cant have same IP address the rule is same with Internet also... and just like system admin of a local network, ICANN is there to make sure, that no 2 place claims to own or tries to point network traffic to same IP !!!

ICANN was meant to solve this problem which we saw with Paki and Youtube !!!
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now i get somtthing out of this conversation...

the router into the country is modified to make sure utube end up in some page created by gov...
anyway.. cat they use some encrypted way to access utube???

so wht and all sites are taken away from paki ppl??
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Uh.What?,I saw my Pakistani friend online at 12:30 AM yesterday.Lol.

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Hehehe thanks for the info
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that means what ? someone in pakistan can use proxy na?
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