Government is about to introduce Sex education in Indian school!, what is your view?

[max_demon]

The Arya Vidya Mandir (AVM) Society, which runs four schools in the city, could be in for trouble. The state government said the AVM management had not taken necessary permissions to turn the AVM Girls’ School in Santacruz into a co-educational institution, and to merge it with another AVM school in Bandra.

Parents of girls studying in AVM, Santacruz have moved the Bombay High Court against the management’s decision — that from April 1, 2007 the school will become co-educational and girls from Standard III to X will attend classes in the AVM School in Bandra (W). Girls in Standard II and below will continue to attend the Santacruz school, along with boys. Both schools would have a common principal.

On February 26, the court had asked the government to check whether all the necessary permissions had been taken. In an affidavit filed before the court, Deputy Secretary of School Education AM Bhattalwar said the school management had not obtained the no-objection certificates (NOCs) for shifting/relocating the school and changing the girls’ school to a co-ed institution. The affidavit said the school gave the state the impression that it was simply reorganising some classes while it was actually shifting a part of the school from Santacruz to Bandra.

The affidavit cites a November 2003 Resolution which said that government sanction had to be taken to convert a school into co-ed. The permission is granted only after verifying the amenities available for boys and girls. The government affidavit could spell trouble for AVM. The may be heard on Tuesday.

Not every one is happy with the government stand to introduce sex eduction in school

Jamaat opposes sex education in schools
Haima Desshpande
Thursday, March 15, 2007 00:29 IST


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MUMBAI: Sex education in schools is under attack. Based on the premise that sex education will lead more children to experiment with sex instead of staying off it, the Jamaat-e-Islami Hind (JIH) will launch a countrywide agitation to have it scrapped.

The Jamaat will seek the help of Parents and Teachers Associations to plug any move to introduce sex education. In Mumbai, the JIH will take the help of city-based anti-obscenity crusader Pratibha Naitthani. It is also in touch with 22 other organisations under the aegis of the Ashleelta Virodhi Manch (Anti-Obscenity Campaign) to back their stand.

Jamaat representatives met Minister for School Education Vasant Purke and demanded that the state government reconsider its decision to make sex education compulsory in schools. A memorandum will also be submitted to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Minister for Human Resource Development Arjun Singh. The organisation plans to intensify protests across the country by mobilising Muslims organisations.

The provocation seems to have come from Arjun Singh, who indicated that sex education will be crucial to prevent AIDS. A spokesman for the Jamaat, Aslam Ghazi, told DNA that his organisation will not let the HRD ministry carry on with its plans. “Uncontrolled sexual anarchy is the reason for AIDS,” he said. “It is a Western illness. Why should our children be taught about sex?”

According to Ghazi, sex education will do no good because it will leave children confused and curious. “On the one hand, schools will teach children everything about sex. On the other, they will caution them against indulging in sex,“ he remarked. “When they are asked to hold off, they will become more curious and try to experiment with many partners. We will not allow such moral corruption.”

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now what teachers will do


will they show movies



will they teach us Hot coffee (jokin)

Cool but i doubt if teachers are willing teach that. When i was in SSLC 9th. We had this topic about male and female reproductive system our biology teacher just moved to next chapter. In SSLC it is not much in detail but while in ICSE it was very detailed.

[gxsaurav]

Thanx god, this was a much required action to take. Sex is a taboo topic in India socity, now atleast this way students will be frank & open about it. If there is enough knowledge of something it is no longer a special knowledge.

We can already see the Student Sex revolution in all the colleges & universites in the form of various MMS scandels which come out everyday , the knowledge is still there, but boys & gals are shy. Oh comon, everyone does it, it's just no one talks about it.

Now I hope the parents are samrt enough to understand the decision. Starting sex education does not mean that this will increse the harrasment cases or Students doing sex in school\college times. Yo, they are already doing it without telling. Atleast now they will be safe. It better to buy a Rs 20 pack of condom then to be a papa accidently anyway

[sam_1710]

here in bangalore... we had sex education for 2 years.. 9th(2002-2003) and SSLC(2003-2004 for me)..
our bio lecturers wud tell us how to prevent it and such stuff wid some toony pics etc.. separately for boys n gals of course !!

[24online]

effect: internet usage will increase.....

[blackpearl]

More MMS clips.

[Ravirdv]

^^

[kumarmohit]

Originally Posted by blackpearl

More MMS clips.

LOL, Anyway I left school in 2001 and I do not yet have kids, so i do not think this step will affect me in anyway

[max_demon]

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[Aberforth]

Originally Posted by max_demon

A spokesman for the Jamaat, Aslam Ghazi, told DNA that his organisation will not let the HRD ministry carry on with its plans. “Uncontrolled sexual anarchy is the reason for AIDS,” he said. “It is a Western illness. Why should our children be taught about sex?”

Aslam Ghazni, wake up *knock knock knock*. AIDs is definitely not a western disease, in fact it India tops the list. Ironically Manipur, a trasitional progressive Indian state tops the list in India along with other NE states, what is abstinence going to do there? And the rest of India?

G.W. Bush experimented with removing sex-ed and introducing abstinence programs, US today has 7 times higher teen pregnancy rates than Europe, statistically teen in both continents have same amount of sex.

NDA government went for abstinence means instead of promoting safe sex and propelled India to beat South Africa in being the top country with HIV, now we all do what we are best at - denial.

Aslam Ghazi is an example of person who credit all evils to the west and are happy with India getting backwards. It is these kind of people who keep India on leash and let China overtake India in all spheres.

Sex education is the need of the hour, not only for preventing AIDs but also satiating the curiousity, preventing unwated pregnancy and gender sensitisation. In India where majority have sex only after marriage, people enter into wedlock and are scared silly because they don't know one thing or the other. They don't understand much about female sexuality either and neither are the ladies sure about it, being bought up in a puritan environment.

Originally Posted by thunderbird.117

Cool but i doubt if teachers are willing teach that. When i was in SSLC 9th. We had this topic about male and female reproductive system our biology teacher just moved to next chapter. In SSLC it is not much in detail but while in ICSE it was very detailed.

Thats biology, science not sex education. Sex education deals with the relationships and emotional aspects of sex along with other things..

[nishant_nms]

it is a good step

[apoorva84]

high time they introduced it...jamaat,i think you are living n the god damned 18th century

[kirangp]

There will be someone or the other who will always oppose it but the Government should be strong & should not remove it...

Originally Posted by Aberforth

Thats biology, science not sex education. Sex education deals with the relationships and emotional aspects of sex along with other things..

Why i said that because if you can not teach that in biology how can they teach them sex education?. If a parent come to know little bit that their children know sex they start a big issue. Just like what happened to me when dad saw it. The whole day he was giving lecture after lecture. Sex is a big taboo and lool the indian population are huge. How did it become huge if sex is a taboo?. hmm. Something to ponder.

[Yamaraj]

Originally Posted by thunderbird.117

Why i said that because if you can not teach that in biology how can they teach them sex education?. If a parent come to know little bit that their children know sex they start a big issue. Just like what happened to me when dad saw it. The whole day he was giving lecture after lecture. Sex is a big taboo and lool the indian population are huge. How did it become huge if sex is a taboo?. hmm. Something to ponder.

Because Indians are mostly hypocrites and riddled with the guilt resulting from poor knowledge and unsatisfied desires.

[ctrl_alt_del]

Max_Demom, your comments are in bad taste and entirely unsuitable for the discussion at hand.Please refrain from making any such tasteless comments in future and try to understand the seriousness of issue that is being discussed.

[max_demon]

Originally Posted by ctrl_alt_del

Max_Demom, your comments are in bad taste and entirely unsuitable for the discussion at hand.Please refrain from making any such tasteless comments in future and try to understand the seriousness of issue that is being discussed.

Sorry , Ctrl+alt+del i was not having the idea . will not do again

[Aberforth]

Originally Posted by thunderbird.117

Why i said that because if you can not teach that in biology how can they teach them sex education?. If a parent come to know little bit that their children know sex they start a big issue. Just like what happened to me when dad saw it. The whole day he was giving lecture after lecture. Sex is a big taboo and lool the indian population are huge. How did it become huge if sex is a taboo?. hmm. Something to ponder.

We lived in a nation of hippocrites, they think about sex 24/7 (1 billion people attest to this fact) while make it a taboo to talk about it, have extra-marital affairs while look down at pre-marital sex, talk about western corruption while they forget the jumbo sized harems of nobles of the old and child marriages, talk about cultures ignoring thuggee human sacrifice, sati, dowry, casteism....

Don't know about your dad but my parents are so conservative they'll be surprised I even know about female bodies and sex, forget doing it. I guess this attitude made me fight back by doing things much before people normally did.

[dOm1naTOr]

If these things are not taught by teachers/lecturers then the teens will have to find out by other means[as normally happens]. Increased net usage, book() usages etc. Its better to teach them, but not deeply.
Also making some bad and horrorful images bout sex by lecturers will gives more trouble in future. They will need some counseling after 20

[Aberforth]

Originally Posted by aravind_n20

Also making some bad and horrorful images bout sex by lecturers will gives more trouble in future. They will need some counseling after 20

It does, lots of incompatibility between couples resulting in extra martial affairs, divorces, arguments, blah blah. And a lot of people have sex education from porn which itself is very unrealistic and fantastic like fantasy movies. Unrealistic expectations then give rise to problems.

[phreak0ut]

Originally Posted by Aberforth

It does, lots of incompatibility between couples resulting in extra martial affairs, divorces, arguments, blah blah. And a lot of people have sex education from porn which itself is very unrealistic and fantastic like fantasy movies. Unrealistic expectations then give rise to problems.

Very well said!!

[ax3]

@Aberforth ....... nice rely ..........

Looks like kerala and karnataka says no to sex education. Dumb parents and dumb people.

[Aberforth]

Originally Posted by thunderbird.117

Looks like kerala and karnataka says no to sex education. Dumb parents and dumb people.

I guess they don't want something 'western' like sex happening in their place. Last time, the government of Karnataka opposed something, it was English education in state schools. The result? IT boom in their own backyard while the Kannadas were largely unemployable in this industry resulting in importing people from other states. It became an eye opener for them and now they have introduced English in primary schools.

The next lesson they'd need is a rise of sexual crimes and offenses (accompanies quick economic growth with lack of humanity) and a good ranking in HIV which will open the eyes and allow sex education.

Originally Posted by Aberforth

I guess they don't want something 'western' like sex happening in their place. Last time, the government of Karnataka opposed something, it was English education in state schools. The result? IT boom in their own backyard while the Kannadas were largely unemployable in this industry resulting in importing people from other states. It became an eye opener for them and now they have introduced English in primary schools.

The next lesson they'd need is a rise of sexual crimes and offenses (accompanies quick economic growth with lack of humanity) and a good ranking in HIV which will open the eyes and allow sex education.

In developed countries like europe, US, UK and so on have sex education. No one complains of anything. This kannadigas are screwing themself. Even now they are arguing they should not be english in schools or they should not teach english. Has i saw sexual crime is increasing rapidly. I dont know what people are going to gain from hating westerners. All i can this if people keeps on hating they are biggest losers ever. Haters are loser

[Aberforth]

Bush administration tried going on a conservative note and proposed abstinence movements instead of sex education. By 2008 teenage pregnancy increased several times and statistically teens in US showed more high risk behaviour than Europe despite Europe being more liberal than US in sexual matters.

Denmark is the best example how removing that taboo effect with sex can change the whole atmosphere, reportedly Danes are one of the happiest people with good incomes, low crime, virtually absent sexual crimes, etc.

India is far from it, Delhi is notoriously known as Rape Capital of the World and well, get any national newspaper from any day - chances are at least two reported sexual crimes reach the papers everyday. Conservatism is always at conflict with development both in India and US. Apparently they make good partners.

I guess a lesson to learn from these statistics, don't mess with nature. Sex urge is natural and if it is ignored for maybe marriage after 20 years, it is bound to have negative effects. Better educate them than have them as porn addicts, rapists or deviants.

[neilsequeira]

**** this topic ban me admins for saying this . i learnt all things myself and i am happy . Further more who allowed such topics on a tech forum

instead of sex educatin change marriage age for gals to 16 and guys to 18 damn its . rather it will decrease crime and urge and stop showing females in bollywood with skimpy clothes. and what the hell . i wonder what will happen to people who find out ........................
Example Britney Spears son .

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You know where are hijdas and Prostitues and Aids infected peoople are there in huge Numbers - MUMBAI so they need it more then elsewhere.

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Decent forum digit UK Magazine

[Vyasram]

^^^ why are you bashing the moment you saw this topic, every forum has a general/lobby section where users can talk abt matters irrelevant to the main theme of the forum

btw, this is technology, reproduction technology

abt ur depression abt learning how u were born: " it is the only way to ensure the survival of our species"

[Aberforth]

Originally Posted by neilsequeira

instead of sex educatin change marriage age for gals to 16 and guys to 18 damn its . rather it will decrease crime and urge

In US marriage age is 16 for both males and females but doesn't change a thing. I think marriage age isn't an issue, you don't want to marry just for sex do you? Marriage is a lifetime contract in most cases unless you want to follow the Hollywood way of doing things.


Sex education isn't about urge satisfaction, its about knowledge and understanding of sexual issues which marriage isn't going to help. You pointed out your lack of knowledge and immaturity in this regard with your post on this topic. If you were depressed about the way you were born, it proves you really need sex education to change your attitude - you are one of the casualties of the current no sex-ed system. I have nothing more to say.

Early marriage is going to promote hasty decisions based on hormones and loads of regrets later and trying quick fix solutions like extra marital affairs or worse crimes. Moreover very few would marry early, they have a career to consider and not all people are made for marriage. For example I have been in legal marriageable age for quite a few year but marriage isn't on the charts for at least 10 years for me, I have a lot more things to do rather than kids and family.

[gxsaurav]

Your body muscles work a lot during sex, the heartbeat increses, brain releases lots of engymes which usually it doesn't in normal times. Hell, if you don't know how to do or how to be careful, you can die doing it.

(guess that was too much )

& sure you can learn on your own. but how much? Unless you do practicles or know what will happen while doing practical you won't know anything.