The Oscars (79th Annual Academy Awards)

[hailgautam]

you can read?
out of 100%, 98% are made-up - this statement talks about the authenticity of the statistics.

2. 37.5% are made up on the spot - other 62.5% require some work on them to be done..........this statement talks about the timing of creation of the statistics.

That's how exactly.

[mail2and]

Originally Posted by aryayush

How exactly?

Don't bother. Some people argue for the sake of it.

[aryayush]

But I intend to make it clear to him.

Originally Posted by hailgautam

you can read?
out of 100%, 98% are made-up - this statement talks about the authenticity of the statistics.

2. 37.5% are made up on the spot - other 62.5% require some work on them to be done..........this statement talks about the timing of creation of the statistics.

That's how exactly.

No, you are absolutely wrong, and I do not mean that in disrespect. It is OK to be wrong sometimes, life would be pretty boring if you were always correct.

Both the sentences talk about the authenticity of most statistics. What mail2and posted is actually supposed to be a funny and self-conflicting post. But it takes a little bit of common sense to 'get it'.
It talks about how so many statistics are made up on the spot (i.e. inaccurate, artificial, incorrect, inauthentic - call it what you will) while it already supplements the statement with another made up statistic. That is the essence of it and it is funny if you understand in at once.

I then posted another post with a changed figure to point out that 37.5% is in itself not a genuine figure and that it can be anything. You basically posted the same sentence again with a few different words and you think that the two are somehow different.

mail2and's statement is the actual quote. It points out a truth. I myself sit with my friends sometimes and I will say something like - "Laptops occupy exactly 46.26% of the computer market." I haven't the slightest clue what the actual figure is and whether I am anywhere close to it, but I make it up because it makes me sound well-informed and knowledgeable - and because my friends have no clue either, it goes down well with them.

Hope it is clear now!

:: Oh, I just love making issues out of thin air! ::

>>> Back to the topic, please!

[hailgautam]

Originally Posted by aryayush

But I intend to make it clear to him.

No, you are absolutely wrong, and I do not mean that in disrespect. It is OK to be wrong sometimes, life would be pretty boring if you were always correct.

Right - You should be wrong here...

Both the sentences talk about the authenticity of most statistics.

Agree.

What mail2and posted is actually supposed to be a funny and self-conflicting post. But it takes a little bit of common sense to 'get it'.

Agree

It talks about how so many statistics are made up on the spot (i.e. inaccurate, artificial, incorrect, inauthentic - call it what you will) while it already supplements the statement with another made up statistic. That is the essence of it and it is funny if you understand in at once.

Read again your words only........

I then posted another post with a changed figure to point out that 37.5% is in itself not a genuine figure and that it can be anything. You basically posted the same sentence again with a few different words and you think that the two are somehow different.

I did not basically posted the same message. My message is different.....I was not referring to how statistics are made, but was referring to the general nature of the statistics themselves

mail2and's statement is the actual quote. It points out a truth. I myself sit with my friends sometimes and I will say something like - "Laptops occupy exactly 46.26% of the computer market." I haven't the slightest clue what the actual figure is and whether I am anywhere close to it, but I make it up because it makes me sound well-informed and knowledgeable - and because my friends have no clue either, it goes down well with them.

There are 2 situations here:
1. You come out/produce/spawn/generate some number to suit your temporary and momentary needs - at that time you do not have the time/resource/opportunity to refer to any other outside source. Let us go with the number we got for this purpose for the time being - 37.5% of the times

However there are situations where to support your point/position/meaning/intention/argument/line of statement you do some research/study/investigation by spending time/resources/effort and support your point/position/meaning/intention/argument/line of statement based on such research/study/investigation - This happens the remaining - 62.5% of the times.

2. However 98% of your your point is false/fake/invented/fabricated, irrespective of whether you have come out/produce/spawn/generate a number (37.5%) due to some constraints (for obvious reasons) or did some research/study/investigation (62.5%) - spending time/resources/effort to support your findings.

Hope it is clear now!

:: Oh, I just love making issues out of thin air! ::

>>> Back to the topic, please!

Ya now Now it can end.

[aryayush]

LOL! OK.

As you wish. Take it as you will, it's upto you.

[caleb]

What happend to the discussion on Oscars?

[Darthvader]

It vanished in all the statistical gibberish

[mail2and]

Originally Posted by Indyan

Look who is talking. Everytime I see a fight in this forum, you are involved in it.

Go harp about it. Run around trees, streets shouting that. What a statement!

My point was that Martin Scorsese did plagiarise/rip-off .

Even I said he ripped it off. I wonder why you realized it that late. Tsk. Tsk.

[rockthegod]

Watched "Infernal Affairs" a long time back.... Departed is a much superior movie even for its adapted nature... All actors were simply fantastic and the script n screenplay is excellent !!!!! Kusod to Scorcese though this movie would never be on the same lines as the legendary Taxi Driver and Raging Bull !!!!

All the Oscar decisions are quite good except I thought that CARS would would win over that extremely childish Happy Feet (the first animation movie that I didn't like).

Pans Labyrinth was way above all others. The story is novel, intriguing and very well scripted. The soundtrack is JUST SIMPLY THE BEST !!!!!!

[aryayush]

Which animation movies have you seen? Have you seen the seven Pixar movies?

[rockthegod]

yep.. all Pixar and Disney muvis ever produced (even ancient disney classics) as I told ya I am a big animation fan and I seemed to like even the weirdest of animations of all kinds.... but it seems HAPPY FEET failed to impress me and this is the first time (mayb coz of the musicals.. I dunno !!!)... CARS was a damn excellent muvi.... I thought that it would definitely win... and Monster House was also brilliant though it seemed a little too scary for kids !!!!

[aryayush]

Yeah, Cars should have won. It is a Pixar movie, after all.

[rajasekharan]

i second you,.....even i did not like "happy feet"...the first animation movie that disappointed me...., its the story that i did not like , kind a like its gonna have a bad ending feeling , but it eventually had a forced good ending . but CARS was definitely more enjoyable..., but anyways its good to see SOFTIMAGE XSI getting some credits..., am not complaining , animation movies are the future , they portray a good story and a good morale . i dont watch other eng movies except animated ones...
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PS: oh yeah, by the way...head to cgtalk and check out the animation clips ....some of them are really really really good...