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    Kuwait's parliament on Thursday provisionally passed amendments to the Gulf state's penal code stipulating the death penalty for those who curse God, Islam's Prophet Mohammed or his wives.

    Forty-six MPs, including cabinet ministers, voted for the key amendments that will come into effect only after another round of voting and government approval. The second and final vote will take place in two weeks.

    Four Shiite MPs voted against the law, a pro-Shiite Sunni lawmaker abstained, while two MPs refused to vote.

    Shiite MPs have demanded that the new amendments also enforce the death penalty for anyone who curses their sect's 12 revered Imams, but the Sunni- dominated parliament rejected their requests.

    The move to stiffen penalties for religious crimes came after authorities last month arrested a Shiite tweeter for allegedly cursing the Prophet Mohammed, his wife and some companions.

    The suspect, Hamad al-Naqi, is being detained pending further interrogation and trial.

    Sectarian tensions have flared in Kuwait between the Sunni majority and Shiites, who form about a third of the native population of 1.17 million, reflecting rising regional tensions between the two Islamic sects.
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    Default Re: Kuwait MPs okay death penalty for cursing God

    Well blasphemy is death offence in Pakistan also.
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    Default Re: Kuwait MPs okay death penalty for cursing God

    And you want us to discuss this? Not every news is worth posting in this forum IMO. But still, it's no big deal. Muslim countries are harsh, and they give severe punishments.
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    haha--wait...wut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by desiJATT View Post
    And you want us to discuss this? Not every news is worth posting in this forum IMO. But still, it's no big deal. Muslim countries are harsh, and they give severe punishments.
    Was posting as a FYI. Will keep in mind though.
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    Default Re: Kuwait MPs okay death penalty for cursing God

    Whatever happened to the society..

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    There is no such thing as society. Just a bunch of rudimentary guidelines. Some people want to pass them as rigid rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeSmOnD dAvId View Post
    There is no such thing as society. Just a bunch of rudimentary guidelines. Some people want to pass them as rigid rules.
    Well, you can call it society when each of them have their own culture (or rigid rules).

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    Different guidelines and people follow whichever appeals to them.
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    Default Re: Kuwait MPs okay death penalty for cursing God

    "Hey bhagwan, yeh tune kya kiya"

    Oh wait!

    Indian movies banned in Kuwait now, atleast the oldies. Everyone's blaming God in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarath View Post
    "Hey bhagwan, yeh tune kya kiya"

    Oh wait!

    Indian movies banned in Kuwait now, atleast the oldies. Everyone's blaming God in them.
    That's ok I guess.

    Religion makes stuff so complicated.
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    Default Re: Kuwait MPs okay death penalty for cursing God

    Their country, their rules, their wish. Can't do much but speculate. Some other populations have even weirder rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarath View Post
    Their country, their rules, their wish. Can't do much but speculate. Some other populations have even weirder rules.
    Amen to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarath View Post
    Their country, their rules, their wish. Can't do much but speculate. Some other populations have even weirder rules.
    true. but those of that country that don't agree and neither can go elsewhere, what will happen to them ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icebags View Post
    true. but those of that country that don't agree and neither can go elsewhere, what will happen to them ?
    They should learn to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faun View Post
    They should learn to deal with it.
    Sarcasm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpool_fan View Post
    Sarcasm?

    A message to Raja Ram Mohan Roy. Sati System. Deal with it.
    With a death penalty involved, I think it'd be wiser to deal with it.
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    Raja Ram Mohan Roy would also have met DP, if he was not backed by ruling party.

    anyways, death penalty common or uncommon, is very serious issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeSmOnD dAvId View Post
    With a death penalty involved, I think it'd be wiser to deal with it.
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    Yeah, but somebody's gotta do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeSmOnD dAvId View Post
    With a death penalty involved, I think it'd be wiser to deal with it.
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    Don't support the guys who are setting such retarded laws. There would always be a couple of revolutionaries who will bring changes sooner or later.
    Sure deal with it, but while solving the problems and not becoming a part of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpool_fan View Post
    Don't support the guys who are setting such retarded laws. There would always be a couple of revolutionaries who will bring changes sooner or later.
    Sure deal with it, but while solving the problems and not becoming a part of the problem.
    The problem is these laws are based on religious texts, carries a lot more gravity than an ordinary law. And that too in a nearly homogenous society.
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    I think people take religion way too seriously. The only way to God is to be true to yourself. Enforcing your will upon others is itself an act of blasphemy since you are passing the judgment that is only for God (and His attendants) to decide.

    I wish people would wake up to this fact.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcceleratorX View Post
    I think people take religion way too seriously. The only way to God is to be true to yourself. Enforcing your will upon others is itself an act of blasphemy since you are passing the judgment that is only for God (and His attendants) to decide.
    Well said, it's akin to saying God is not capable of passing his own judgement.
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    Not my country ..Not my problem . That region is quite sensitive about god and religion
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssdivisiongermany1933 View Post
    Not my country ..Not my problem . That region is quite sensitive about god and religion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarath View Post
    Humanity died a second death
    did Ever Humanity existed ...So how can it die ??
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    Thank god I was born im a secular state
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpool_fan View Post
    Don't support the guys who are setting such retarded laws. There would always be a couple of revolutionaries who will bring changes sooner or later.
    Sure deal with it, but while solving the problems and not becoming a part of the problem.
    What if the source of support is not from some guys, but from a book? Forget about bringing change, those who questioned only were exiled like Salman Rushdie, Taslima Nasreen, Wafa Sultan etc.

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    Well, at least incidents in Norway are showing something else (read news)......

    EDIT (again): Removed content of religious context because I don't want to incite religious conversations here.
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