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Old 22-01-2012, 10:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Have child care professionals in Norway snatched two toddlers, aged one and three, from their parents because they have equated the Indian way of bringing up kids to child abuse? It depends who you ask. Aishwarya and Avigyan's parents insist Child Welfare authorities in Norway have committed a grave crime based on cultural ignorance. The authorities in Norway say they are neither ignorant nor biased.

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That is totally not acceptable!
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Old 22-01-2012, 11:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I was initially skeptical but this article throws more light and leaves no scope for prejudice

'Child snatch' spat with Oslo - Yahoo!

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The couple say the childcare workers gave "bizarre explanations" for taking the children away.
"They said the mother was incapable of taking care of the children ---- that our daughter looked at the faces of other people around her instead of her mother's was evidence that we were not taking proper care of her, and that our son remained aloof in the kindergarten and banged his head on the floor," said Anurup, who has been living in Norway for the past six years and married Calcutta girl Sagarika in 2007.
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What did they do wrong? They fed the children with their hands and the infants slept in the same bed as the parents. "My son was sleeping with my husband. They said he should sleep separately from your son," said Mrs Bhattacharya."Feeding a child with the hand is normal in Indian tradition and when the mother is feeding with a spoon there could be phases when she was overfeeding the child. They said it was force feeding. These are basically cultural differences," said Mr Bhattacharya.
Wow!!

This is a sad development. I hope they get back their children as soon as possible.

Of course, since minors are involved, usually the exact details are kept confidential. Their might be more it than meets the eye. If information is being concealed for protection of the minors then it is difficult to come to a judgement.

However if that is true, what is more saddening is that an entire country is screwed up. Don't know whether to pity the parents or the citizens of Norway Can't believe a nation being so ret@rded

I however hope they get their kids back.
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If that's the best reasons which Norwegian authorities have came out with, "feeding children with their hands" and "sleeping on the same bed with their children" then I guess every damn Indian parents are culprits!!

Totally absurd!
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Europeans do not care about their children like Indians do so the authorities have to step in to cater to it. I have no idea why would they apply it to Indians.

Forget about cultures, eating with your hands and sleeping with your parents is the most natural way to care and protect your progeny since time immemorial.

Apply the same to Norwe's, feeding with hands means that the parents are careless to not feed with spoon, which is what they are accustomed to and taught since childhood and most likely have no habit of hand-washing so it's pretty unhygenic. Also keeping children in the couple's room can lead to bad consequences...they don't really care about the Children's presence and do their "thing".
In such circumstances such laws might make some sense when applied to their countrymen. But extrapolating it to the entire world is stupid to say at best.

It's a foolish country, to say the least. Strange to address an entire country but it seems apt this time. Looks like some people failed to evolve into intelligent beings. My condolences.
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^ya saw this news today morning on Star News channel

The Parents have rights to get their children back.
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Europeans do not care about their children like Indians do so the authorities have to step in to cater to it. I have no idea why would they apply it to Indians.
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However if that is true, what is more saddening is that an entire country is screwed up. Don't know whether to pity the parents or the citizens of Norway Can't believe a nation being so ret@rded
Er not neet to react over the top. This is like saying the punishments for murder means that all people are murderers.

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It's a foolish country, to say the least. Strange to address an entire country but it seems apt this time. Looks like some people failed to evolve into intelligent beings. My condolences.
No need to stereotype.

Feel sorry for the parents though if there is nothing more than this.

I'll say it again criticize the law, the narrow mind-ness and lack of cultural understanding; but do NOT abuse or stereotype an entire nation. Because then you cannot take the moral high ground since you yourself would be deemed narrow minded and refuse to understand their culture as well.
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Old 23-01-2012, 12:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Sterotype = less effort to make comments
Was fully aware of the cons and pros of that.

But they are actually quite different. We know so much of the world. As a culture despite the poverty we still fare better then most.

You can't go wrong with stereotyping when you say Indians care for their kids more than the western couterparts.

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This is like saying the punishments for murder means that all people are murderers.
It's one thing to commit a murder. Quite another to witness it and do nothing about it.

The outsider penetration is very low in these countries which means they lack the exposure necessary to tackle such problems properly. The same in case with other exotic countries which sees no or almost negligible migrant population.

Can't blame the law when people are mute spectators to it
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Make more effort then. If stereotyping and hate filled posts are encouraged this place will resemble more like rediff.com comment section. You'll agree we don't want that.

Don't get me started on Indian culture, it's not something one can EVER take a moral high ground on.

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That's no stereotyping but plain bullcrap. Typical Indian arrogance at its finest. Bet you've not met and seen a single non-Indian child care.

The mute spectator analogy doesn't work here. Their law in question is apparently for protecting the interests of children. In this case it seems to have been out of order and overly harsh on an Indian couple based on cultural misunderstanding probably. That doesn't warrant calling them or their laws retarded though.
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Y u guys fighting among urself? the main culprit here is the Norway law
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Y u guys fighting among urself? the main culprit here is the Norway law
yes. Their law is retarded.
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yes. Their law is retarded.
LOL law aint a person that its retarded
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LOL u got me. but i think both words can be used with a system
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This entire process to separate children from parents(for eg: force them to sleep in their own room at early ages) has destroyed the entire western youth, without proper guidance they turn into hooligans and this results into affairs like uk riots, college shootings etc, our own way of taking care of our children is a lot better.

Come on, sleeping with parents is negligence? Maybe in the west where most people become sadistic, abusing parents.
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What a way to generalize.

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This entire process to separate children from parents(for eg: force them to sleep in their own room at early ages) has destroyed the entire western youth, without proper guidance they turn into hooligans and this results into affairs like uk riots, college shootings etc, our own way of taking care of our children is a lot better.

Come on, sleeping with parents is negligence? Maybe in the west where most people become sadistic, abusing parents.
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If I had a penny for everytime an Indian classlessly stereotyped others while knowing NOTHING about their culture, and living with their pseudo-cultural zealatory, I would have been a billionxbillion-are.

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they will pay every such kind of idiots will pay i will not leave any of them.
could you please lay off the crack before posting?

When you make a lulzifying post, don't delete it. Private lulz for mods are unfair. I've undeleted your post.
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Right, because the scene here is *soo* much better.
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This entire process to separate children from parents(for eg: force them to sleep in their own room at early ages) has destroyed the entire western youth,
I strongly disagree with this point. It is essential to maintain personal life. Think about so called Indian culture & what do most of the people do, and how most of guys/girls like us behave with parents after so much of care from childhood.

Detailed discussion is out of the scope of this thread.
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indian culture!history 101---indian term was coined by foreigners who called natives of those living across the Indus river hindus since their language did not contain a letter for sound "I".hence originated the words hindus & hindustaan.later with introduction of english came India & Indians.so technically the words "india/Indian/Hindu"are themselves foreign words.so next time before fighting over Indian culture please keep this in mind that native term is "Bhaartiya/Bhaarat"(which btw is dead a long time ago).the so called indian culture today is a mixture of various cultures many of which are technically foreign in nature.

on a side note i consider indian parenting(not bhartiya which is extinct) as merely a Hypocritical form of western parenting.
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Er even if these all were foreign words, the medium of communication is English here and India is the official English name of the country.
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The way i think the European kids are brought up is better than how we Indians are, on the grounds of self-sufficiency atleast.
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