racist attacked on indians..

[swordfish]

recently thera are many racist attack are done on indian...
are indians weakest target?
is is because of their job are "banglored"?
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/4598887.cms

[sujoyp]

who indians???...those people who left india for better prospects and money...
I am sorry to say but they r not indians anymore...they went there at their own risk

if I go to dubai for earning and get murdered by someone...its my fault that I went their and not responsibility of indian government or anyone else.

indian govt loose nearly 5 crore for training every single IIT,IIM student....and what they give back...fly to US and work like dogs there for money


No need of shredding a single tear

[amitabhishek]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

who indians???...those people who left india for better prospects and money...
I am sorry to say but they r not indians anymore...they went there at their own risk

if I go to dubai for earning and get murdered by someone...its my fault that I went their and not responsibility of indian government or anyone else.

indian govt loose nearly 5 crore for training every single IIT,IIM student....and what they give back...fly to US and work like dogs there for money


No need of shredding a single tear

+1...Driving cabs...filling gas at pumps... working as waiters it makes no f**ing sense! Punjab, Gujurat & AP are the top exporters...

More food for thought here:

http://quicktake.wordpress.com/2009/...-businessweek/

[drvarunmehta]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

indian govt loose nearly 5 crore for training every single IIT,IIM student....and what they give back...fly to US and work like dogs there for money

Where did you get that figure of 5 crore from? Seems unlikely that it should be so high.

[Faun]

Those are students who were assaulted by teenagers gang. Many of them do part time job and come back home late using public transport.

It may be just some random violence incidents.

@sujoyp
They are still Indians, belong to India. If someone gets better opportunity abroad then what is the problem ? Don't you think that we here are doing the same thing, working for Americans ?

[Ethan_Hunt]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

who indians???...those people who left india for better prospects and money...
I am sorry to say but they r not indians anymore...they went there at their own risk

if I go to dubai for earning and get murdered by someone...its my fault that I went their and not responsibility of indian government or anyone else.

indian govt loose nearly 5 crore for training every single IIT,IIM student....and what they give back...fly to US and work like dogs there for money


No need of shredding a single tear

I'm stumped by this guy's attitude.

[appserver]

@sujoyp,

The concept of outsourcing was emerged just because of "those people who left india for better prospects and money." The quality, talent, sincerity and dedication along with the cheap man power brought many job opportunities to India. With such a big population, India would have suffered a lot if the outsourcing concept did not emerge.

[max_demon]

People go for Higher education too not just to get job and earn money .

Some of The indians who are working there in other countries are actually brillient students who work in great companies like google , intel . they are making india shine . ( bharat ka naam roshan kar rahey hai )

And India Has also great job oppurtunaties ( Read : Reverse Brain Drain )
so what if we all do racist attack on foreign students . (also see amirkhan;s add of foreigners )

[appserver]

Originally Posted by max_demon

People go for Higher education too not just to get job and earn money .

Some of The indians who are working there in other countries are actually brillient students who work in great companies like google , intel . they are making india shine . ( bharat ka naam roshan kar rahey hai )

And India Has also great job oppurtunaties ( Read : Reverse Brain Drain )
so what if we all do racist attack on foreign students . (also see amirkhan;s add of foreigners )

Do you think we are not doing that now? How do we call a guy from Africa[exclude South Africa]?

[sujoyp]

friends think logically...u study here at a school here getting govt funds for your education
then again go to some NIT,IIT,IIM which get funds from govt for your studies...

and did u even think where govt gets money from...from us...paying taxes from hard earned money..

and after all this u say that when ever u get better opportunity u wanna go away and do job for them....whats benefit for us if u work for intel or google...what service are u giving to india with ur soo called intelligence.

huh...I still say...u go there at ur own risk...no one is responsible for all this attacks other then u...

if u fear this...come back to india...work here..and live like any other indian live

=>the 5 crore figure was wrong...I just heard from some elderly person abt it. Sorry abt it

[gopi_vbboy]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

who indians???...those people who left india for better prospects and money...
I am sorry to say but they r not indians anymore...they went there at their own risk

if I go to dubai for earning and get murdered by someone...its my fault that I went their and not responsibility of indian government or anyone else.

indian govt loose nearly 5 crore for training every single IIT,IIM student....and what they give back...fly to US and work like dogs there for money


No need of shredding a single tear

yup i agree with u...we r bit oppurtunistic...i even hate goin foreign like some of my seniors went....its like using n throwing away india for education...wer is ur contrib to country...we shud serve ur country...not jus money

n here in a.p...most of students r fond of big package jobs...hence many take risk n go foreign...yes money is needed...but over-desire is dangerous

when some go to alien country....safety of life lies with us

[appserver]

Sujoyp,

You have a point. If you study at Singapore, Canada you need to serve the country for a year. This should be applicable to our country also.

Having saying that we Indians are very poor in taking risks and thus India is full of service based companies and so the employees. I am a software coolie, I am working for a MNC but still all my hard works are going for an international manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, electrical companies. Now what is the difference between me and an Indian who is working at US or UK?

Whose mistake is that? Big Indian software giants does not have a single R&D! We have R&D for Google, IBM, Yahoo, Microsoft but why not even a single Indian company? Have you ever thought about that?

Its a big politics dude! Those western population will earn and we Indian population has to serve!

[gopi_vbboy]

Originally Posted by appserver

Sujoyp,

You have a point. If you study at Singapore, Canada you need to serve the country for a year. This should be applicable to our country also.

Having saying that we Indians are very poor in taking risks and thus India is full of service based companies and so the employees. I am a software coolie, I am working for a MNC but still all my hard works are going for an international manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, electrical companies. Now what is the difference between me and an Indian who is working at US or UK?

Whose mistake is that? Big Indian software giants does not have a single R&D! We have R&D for Google, IBM, Yahoo, Microsoft but why not even a single Indian company? Have you ever thought about that?

Its a big politics dude! Those western population will earn and we Indian population has to serve!

dude wake up...u r talking abt IT...IT ais not only the industry for india to survive....also india will not dip if IT comapny aint ther...ther r loads of other sectors which u never thought till today....electrical power,finance,manufacturing,etc

n dont be narrow minded n genralising way of thinking....evr1 dont work like slave as u work for a IT giant..i guess so

actually ther r two thing seperate thats making points here....a)one lack of oppurtunity for starting business or getting job in INDIA...b)Serving ur
country n stayin with job in india

the mix of ttitude of..a n b is we hav 2day ...both r valid n cant be argued

[gopi_vbboy]

Originally Posted by ichi

Those are students who were assaulted by teenagers gang. Many of them do part time job and come back home late using public transport.

It may be just some random violence incidents.

@sujoyp
They are still Indians, belong to India. If someone gets better opportunity abroad then what is the problem ? Don't you think that we here are doing the same thing, working for Americans ?

Working in india ...atleast the workers pay tax to ur country....far better

but goin abroad wats the use to india exept so called fame of workers out ther at google,intel,blah blah...wat can u get from fame...its not worth

[IronManForever]

Not that it changes things, but they are Indians. But I think the acts of violence are too random and incidental to be revolting against.

[sujoyp]

In medical line those who pass from govenment medical colleges have to do 2 year gramin doctor thing....let all the government funded colleges do this thing including IIM ,IIT, NIT....at least they will do some good to India....

[sujoyp]

Originally Posted by IronManForever

Not that it changes things, but they are Indians. But I think the acts of violence are too random and incidental to be revolting against.

the act of violence seems less of racist and more due to anger of outsourcing of jobs...these sarkari neta always see things in racial manners...I would still say go at ur own risk...y include indian govt

[Coool]

I think they done this for money...

[appserver]

Originally Posted by gopi_vbboy

dude wake up...u r talking abt IT...IT ais not only the industry for india to survive....also india will not dip if IT comapny aint ther...ther r loads of other sectors which u never thought till today....electrical power,finance,manufacturing,etc

You are right! I guess we are talking about the students-workers in abroad. I guess 90% of them belongs to IT family [direct or indirect]. Between you can't differentiate between IT and the rest of the industry. I am not coding for a software company but of course for a manufacturing industries payroll system or accounts.

Also please analyze the economy in 70's-90's and now! Don't you see that the Indian economy has improved after outsourcing [See, positive or negative growth is another topic I am not to it]? Rest I leave it to your common sense.

Originally Posted by gopi_vbboy

n dont be narrow minded n genralising way of thinking....evr1 dont work like slave as u work for a IT giant..i guess so

Sir,
My mind is not that much narrow :-P but tell me one Grade- A Indian software company which has only Indian clients? When you have a non-Indian client, the works and hard work you put goes for only to them, not to the India [Of course except poor billing]. This is reality. We are service providers and very few are product developers!!

[Faun]

Originally Posted by gopi_vbboy

Working in india ...atleast the workers pay tax to ur country....far better

but goin abroad wats the use to india exept so called fame of workers out ther at google,intel,blah blah...wat can u get from fame...its not worth

Tell me dude, is it more important that talent should be restricted to a specific country or should it help everyone globally ?

[mAYHEM]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

who indians???...those people who left india for better prospects and money...
I am sorry to say but they r not indians anymore...they went there at their own risk

if I go to dubai for earning and get murdered by someone...its my fault that I went their and not responsibility of indian government or anyone else.

indian govt loose nearly 5 crore for training every single IIT,IIM student....and what they give back...fly to US and work like dogs there for money


No need of shredding a single tear

Cant argue with that !

[j1n M@tt]

hey sujoyp, I'm ready to work in India and for India, can u plz giv me a job equivalent to dat of wat we get abroad??...hey dude, its easy to say blah, blah, blah...when u face real facts in India, you won't work in India for sure. I think I'm quite gud at work as an engg. but Indian MNCs don't need people like us, they want some poor guys who they think they can make them work as labors(Infy for example)...really pathetic!!

[sujoyp]

^^ ok so go ahead...then y do u cry for help when australians or english people attacks u...then y do u say that its attack on Indian people....common its a attack on u and none of us bothers...

justify me.....y should indian govt come into middle of this.

I am too doing job for last 2 years soo i know the conditions....but again do u really know how indian students live in other countries....
8 people live in a room to save money...they do such kind of jobs that they even wont do in their home...they r always treated like 2nd grade citizens...

[max_demon]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

friends think logically...u study here at a school here getting govt funds for your education
then again go to some NIT,IIT,IIM which get funds from govt for your studies...

and did u even think where govt gets money from...from us...paying taxes from hard earned money..

and after all this u say that when ever u get better opportunity u wanna go away and do job for them....whats benefit for us if u work for intel or google...what service are u giving to india with ur soo called intelligence.

huh...I still say...u go there at ur own risk...no one is responsible for all this attacks other then u...

if u fear this...come back to india...work here..and live like any other indian live

=>the 5 crore figure was wrong...I just heard from some elderly person abt it. Sorry abt it

My point is we are not serving USA / any country as 1st but serving mankind .
remember we are 1st humen being then indian then maharashtrian then nagpurian etcetc .

so what if USB wasnt discovered in india ? after all everyone uses it .

[Liverpool_fan]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

who indians???...those people who left india for better prospects and money...
I am sorry to say but they r not indians anymore...they went there at their own risk

if I go to dubai for earning and get murdered by someone...its my fault that I went their and not responsibility of indian government or anyone else.

indian govt loose nearly 5 crore for training every single IIT,IIM student....and what they give back...fly to US and work like dogs there for money


No need of shredding a single tear

Correct me if I am wrong but don't they pay still pay taxes to India (until they completely become citizens of another country)...
And yup most people would leave a country for better prospects for career and money. Money (after health, family) is the most important thing in life.

[Liverpool_fan]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

justify me.....y should indian govt come into middle of this.

Because they are Indian regardless of the location/

[Faun]

Originally Posted by max_demon

My point is we are not serving USA / any country as 1st but serving mankind .
remember we are 1st humen being then indian then maharashtrian then nagpurian etcetc .

so what if USB wasnt discovered in india ? after all everyone uses it .

Right.

[afonofa]

More Indian students should go there. More the number of Indians, less the number of racially motivated attacks. BTW NRI's do send a lot of money back home to India. So even if they may not know about it, that is their way of giving something back to the country.

[sujoyp]

Originally Posted by max_demon

My point is we are not serving USA / any country as 1st but serving mankind .
remember we are 1st humen being then indian then maharashtrian then nagpurian etcetc .

so what if USB wasnt discovered in india ? after all everyone uses it .

U r serving mankind by doing what??? by opposing the attack or doing jobs in foreign...sorry i am not clear..

ya ya u r correct in all sense....but still i will stick with my words...u go there for better prospects...then go at ur own risk...y do u want indian govt to take responsibility of ur wellbeing....should they send indian army for ur protection(that too on public funds)..

nobody really knows what the real quareel is all abt between the indian guy and australian gang....it can be a gal..drugs...money...jealousy anything...

remember symonds reaction after hearing 'maaki' ...harbhajan could have lost his entire career.

[Kl@w-24]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

who indians???...those people who left india for better prospects and money...
I am sorry to say but they r not indians anymore...they went there at their own risk

Lots of people travel every year from states like Bihar & UP to Maharashtra, Gujarat etc for the same purpose - better prospects and money. If they get attacked and killed by a few hardcore fundamentalists for being 'outsiders' who have come to steal their jobs, who would you support? Those who try to drive them out? Because it was the fault of the 'outsiders' that they came to that state?

There is a very strong feeling in some countries that the Indians are gonna steal our jobs; so we must hate them and drive them away. Add racism to it and you have a recipe for disaster.

Originally Posted by sujoyp

indian govt loose nearly 5 crore for training every single IIT,IIM student....and what they give back...fly to US and work like dogs there for money

Indian govt loses money for training students? Don't the students pay hefty fees to the respective institutions? And don't those same students pay taxes after getting good jobs?

And LOL at the "they r not indians anymore" bit!

Originally Posted by gopi_vbboy

we shud serve ur country...not jus money

Join the armed forces if you REALLY want to serve the country. It's very easy to say "serve the country" but not everyone does it.