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23-01-2009, 08:38 PM
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Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
INTERNAL EMAILS reveal that some groups inside Microsoft warned against labeling the lowest-priced version of Windows Vista with the ‘Vista' brand name, because it might fall short of "user product expectations".
Documents made public in federal court today by plaintiffs in a class-action lawsuit, hoping to prove that the Home Basic version of Microsoft's operating system was more 'Vista Incapable' than "Vista Capable", were submitted to support the claim that the Vole misled consumers in the months leading up to Vista's release.
An internal Mighty-Soft e-mail from August 2005 noted "The recommendation of the Windows Product Management Group was that Home Basic should 'carry the Windows brand alone without the Vista generation name.'"
The peeved plaintiffs also claim that OEMs like Dell were none too pleased with Microsoft's decision to label the Home Basic version of the OS with the Vista tag.
The crux of the lawsuit seems to be the allegation that the Vole's Vista Capable programme hiked up prices of machines that could only run the most basic, lowest end edition of the OS. The plaintiffs also allege that Home Basic, despite what the Redmond giant says, is not the "real" Vista, largely because it does not include the Aero user interface...................................
Source: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-labeled-vista
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23-01-2009, 08:46 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
I love this article,finally who thinks Vista Basic shdun't be called Vista at all!
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23-01-2009, 08:47 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
This is ridiculous. I though there was more in than Vista than just Aero. Just because Aero is absent, it shouldn't have been termed as 'Vista'?
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23-01-2009, 08:50 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
I am not sure I agree here. Doesn't Vista Home Basic have all basic things which are needed for a Windows OS?
After all Aero is only for aethestic purpose and doesn't really improve productivity much like Compiz.
P.S.: I actually haven't used Vista over forty minutes, but still it feels a little strange to not to call a Vista as Vista just due to lack of Aero.
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23-01-2009, 08:57 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
It's not just Aero.
You can see http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...s/default.aspx to find the features which are not available in home basic version and I am pretty sure that the list is longer.
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23-01-2009, 08:58 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
This is one of the stupidest things I've heard. I dont know what else to call it if not Vista.
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23-01-2009, 09:12 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
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Originally Posted by ThinkFree
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Well most people dont need Media Centre.
Also, 3rd party apps do most of the rest of the "extras"
Personally if I have to dip my hands in Microsoft Windows now, Home Basic would suffice.
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23-01-2009, 09:17 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
^^The only plus point that M$ puts for windows home basic is More security. Then why should one spend $200 for just that when he can get almost the same features on XP and use security suites which are required in Vista as well.
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23-01-2009, 09:20 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
When Microsoft has already published a list of features that are available/not available in the different versions of Vista, then what's all the fuss about? It's called Home Basic for a reason, innit?
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23-01-2009, 09:25 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
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Originally Posted by victor_rambo
This is ridiculous. I though there was more in than Vista than just Aero. Just because Aero is absent, it shouldn't have been termed as 'Vista'?
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Aero isn't absent in Basic, tis disabled, enabling it is cake.
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23-01-2009, 09:26 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
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After all Aero is only for aethestic purpose and doesn't really improve productivity much like Compiz.
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Ahm???? What???
So having a preview of all the open windows instantly using Switcher (possible only when aero is enabled) or taskbar thumbnail, or GPGPU or WDDM(less GPU crashes) is not productive??? Have u been smoking weed???
It is named correctly. One of the company I went to in Bangalore were using Windows Vista Home basic (bundled with Dell Optiplex) for there workstation work cos all those PCs were used for was programming with 3 GB RAM. The PC for designers (3) were the only once using Home premium
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23-01-2009, 09:38 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
IMO without Aero VISTA looks damn fugly
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23-01-2009, 10:01 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
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Originally Posted by ThinkFree
^^The only plus point that M$ puts for windows home basic is More security. Then why should one spend $200 for just that when he can get almost the same features on XP and use security suites which are required in Vista as well.
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I don't use any firewall/anti spyware in my Windows Vista. I do have antivirus installed but I don't remember a single detection by it. I've also enable Windows Defender.
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Originally Posted by Kl@w-24
When Microsoft has already published a list of features that are available/not available in the different versions of Vista, then what's all the fuss about? It's called Home Basic for a reason, innit?
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True. Basic version IS Vista. But the lawsuit was slapped coz OEMs labelled PCs Vista capable which were not capable to run Aero.
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Aero isn't absent in Basic, tis disabled, enabling it is cake.
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You can't enable glass effect & true Aero in Basic. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Originally Posted by Anurag_panda
Personally if I have to dip my hands in Microsoft Windows now, Home Basic would suffice.
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I always recommend Home Premium.
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Originally Posted by T159
IMO without Aero VISTA looks damn fugly
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True  That's the reason I don't recommend it. People will abuse the hell outta me
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24-01-2009, 01:04 AM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
Maybe it should've been called "Windows Vista Retarded Edition" ??
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24-01-2009, 02:54 AM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
for me home basic was the fastest among others
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24-01-2009, 08:37 AM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
Home basic is fastest because it doesn't run Aero. Aero requires more RAM to function smoothly. And I would like to quote someone (Don't remember whom) "Vista without Aero is err... Windows XP". So, how about this name for Home basic : "Windows© XP in New Bottle® Edition".
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24-01-2009, 09:05 AM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
yeah..xp bottled edition
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24-01-2009, 02:27 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
I agree, it looks like shite, especially the close/restore/minimize buttons. Why couldn't they just use the Aero-like buttons without the transperancy effects?
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24-01-2009, 10:24 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
No VG's site tells u how to enable BTW
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for me home basic was the fastest among others 
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Yeah, cuz it's got basically nothing !
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24-01-2009, 11:20 PM
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Re: Home Basic shouldn't have been labeled Vista
Home Basic shouldn't have existed.
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