22-04-2005, 11:30 PM
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HDD - Seagate or Samsung?
I shall purchase a new Ultra ATA 80 GB / 120 GB 7200 RPM HDD. What is the going street price now? And which brand to purchase? Samsung or Seagate?
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22-04-2005, 11:40 PM
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Did i not see the same thing in the Bazaar section? Why the double post?
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22-04-2005, 11:44 PM
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I shall purchase a new Ultra ATA 80 GB / 120 GB 7200 RPM HDD. What is the going street price now? And which brand to purchase? Samsung or Seagate?
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first things first.....there is a thread running already for such queries
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11272
so next time when u have a query for h/w, u know where to post...right!!!!
now for ur query...
go for a seagate drive.....its really gud......and d00d get urself a SATA drive
instead of the one above.....get urself a SEAGATE SATA HDD 7200 RPM.....
it wud cost u arnd 3200/-
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23-04-2005, 12:14 AM
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Seagate (120gb or more) drives makes noise while they run... and samsung drives are quiter but they get bad sectors....
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23-04-2005, 01:45 AM
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I havent had a negative experience with Seagate yet so my opinion would be to go for Seagate
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23-04-2005, 03:10 AM
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I saw the same post in the Bazaar section first and replied there. Repeating my reply here as this is a more appropriate section :
From personal experience and from reading about other people's experiences, I believe Seagate is the most reliable HDD brand. Maxtor's just about the worst, with Samsung and WD somewhere in between.
Kolkata price a few weeks ago : Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm PATA 80GB - 2650/-, 120GB - 3650/-. May have changed slightly now. I'll know for sure after I call my dealer tomorrow.
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23-04-2005, 12:37 PM
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Go for seagate, i have two of them. One is 2 yrs old 40 GB @ 5400 RPM, not a single prob yet and another is 160 GB @ 7200 RPM. But dr, it doesnt make much noise.
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23-04-2005, 01:50 PM
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Same here I too have 2 160G drives and they are silent as in i dont hear them over the cpu fan sound.
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23-04-2005, 02:01 PM
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From my personal experience,I've 3 seagates drives 2 40 gb,one 80 gb drives.I've faced no problems whatsoever[TOUCHWOOD].Also i'm planning to get a 160 gig drive.
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23-04-2005, 02:43 PM
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I have Seagate too; 80GB PATA. No Probs for me too (touchwood). Going to get a SATA soon. Again from Seagate.
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23-04-2005, 08:58 PM
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which hd performs beter
seagate/samsung
with 120gb sata 8mb cache
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23-04-2005, 11:43 PM
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Even if there was a performance diff. I bet you wouldn't notice. I've always been a Seagate fan, but currently run a -
WD Caviar 80GB 7.2k 8mb PATA (1year old)
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Samsung 80GB 7.2k 8mb SATA (1 week old) - damn pc dealer took advantage of my impatience and got me to buy this instead of Seagate.
I like the metal covered unexposed bottoms of Seagates whereas shameless WD and Samsungs prefer to expose their circuitry to all and sundry. Damn we need 18+ rating on these drives
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24-04-2005, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pradeep_chauhan
Did i not see the same thing in the Bazaar section? Why the double post?
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Sorry for the double post. I've got one Seagate and one samsung drive. Both PATA 80GB 7200 RPM purchased a couple of years back. The Seagate one has developed troubles while the Samsung functions normally. The Seagate HDD has become absurdly slow, so much so that I get buffer overrun errors if I try to write files from this drive. Seagate had a bad reputation earlier of their drives developing bad sectors etc. The warranty was also for 1 year. compared to Samsung's 3 year. Seagate salvaged some reputation with the 5 year warranty. Anyone knows what the warranty period for Samsung HDDs are?
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24-04-2005, 10:53 AM
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I have faced problems with both the drives and got replacements.
• Segate produces high noise and lot of heat.
• Samsung produces low noise and lesser heat than the Seagate.
• Both drives have 5 yrs warranty. But please check with your vendor.
Right now I have,
1. Seagate 120 GB Serial ATA 7200 RPM
2. Samsung 80 GB Parallel ATA 7200 RPM
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25-04-2005, 09:24 PM
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I have faced problems with both the drives and got replacements.
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How much time did it take to get a replacement drive? And how much time after purchasing did the drives go bust in each case? And what were the problems in each case? Bad sector or total failure?
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25-04-2005, 09:35 PM
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I have a Seagate 40 GB 5400 RPM HDD that is almost 5 years old. It has yet to develop a bad sector or any other problem and is a lot more silent than most other HDD's.
You can't go wrong with Seagate.
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26-04-2005, 11:01 AM
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Replacement for Seagate was around a week.
Replacement for Samsung took three days.
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26-04-2005, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Kannan
Replacement for Seagate was around a week.
Replacement for Samsung took three days.
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Seagate HDD's rarely ever need to be replaced, so don't look to much into that figure.
I think Samsung replacement is quicker because with all the defective HDD's that are returned to be replaced, their replacement procedure must be quite efficient by now.
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26-04-2005, 05:03 PM
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hey guys my samsung hdd drive has developed a pin damage...............wht should i do now???get new...it doesnt come under warranty or something else???
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26-04-2005, 05:10 PM
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which should i take 160gb sata seagate or 160gb sata seagate NCQ?
What is the cost diff between the 2?
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26-04-2005, 11:20 PM
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the cost diff is Rs 150. But the NCQ drive will realy give results if your mobo or sata controller supports ncq. Any way i would recommend the ncq version (i too bought the same although my mobo doesnot have ncq support) of the drive keeping in view that firstly its a newer chipset that the drive uses and also the drive is future proof and will adapt to the new mobo that you may plan to buy later.
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27-04-2005, 01:07 AM
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What is a NCQ ?
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27-04-2005, 01:15 AM
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NCQ = native command queuing It enables the hdd to make a queue of all hdd access and sort them out in a way that minimum head movement is done between them . This increases the throughput in a multi task enviorment.
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27-04-2005, 10:12 AM
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I'm using Seagate 120 GB SATA @ 7200 RPM. How to find out my hard disk has native command queuing.
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27-04-2005, 01:32 PM
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Take the hdd model no and check on the seagate site to see if it is NCQ complient or not.
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27-04-2005, 02:20 PM
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Code:
Model Number Model Name Capacity Interface RPM Seek Time System Type
ST3120026AS Barracuda 7200.7 SATA 120 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 7200 RPM 8.5 ms avg DPC
ST3120827AS Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ 120 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 7200 RPM 8.5 ms avg DPC
ST380013AS Barracuda 7200.7 SATA 80 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 7200 RPM 8.5 ms avg DPC
ST380817AS Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ 80 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 7200 RPM 8.5 ms avg DPC
ST910021AS Momentus 7200.1 100 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 7200 RPM 10.5 ms avg NPC
ST9100824AS Momentus 5400.2 - 120GB Family 100 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 5400 RPM 12.5 ms avg NPC
ST9120821AS Momentus 5400.2 - 120GB Family 120 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 5400 RPM 12.5 ms avg NPC
ST980825AS Momentus 7200.1 80 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 7200 RPM 10.5 ms avg NPC
ST98823AS Momentus 5400.2 - 120GB Family 80 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 5400 RPM 12.5 ms avg NPC
Source: Segate Disc Products (Click here for clear view)
Mine is ST3120026AS and has no NCQ
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27-04-2005, 02:36 PM
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Hey, I wish to upgrade,
Seagate 160 GB SATA- 4700
Western Digital 120 GB SATA - Rs 3900
Samsung Seagate 80 Gb SATA - Rs 3400
(Prices as in Dehradun)
Which is the best. And also whic one to go for???? I am planning to buy the 160 GB Seagate and the dealeris offering to give about 1300-1400 Rs For my old Seagate 40 GB 5400 RPM HDD. Is it OK????
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27-04-2005, 02:38 PM
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I am using Intel D865 GBF Chipset MoBo. Does it support NCQ ???
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27-04-2005, 02:49 PM
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Sorry the 865 does not support NCQ . Inter 915/925 with ICH6R and nforce 4 chipsets supports NCQ
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27-04-2005, 02:55 PM
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what about nforce 3 ultra chipsets
like msi k8n neo 2 platinum , do they support ncq?
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